As we get everything settled here, we’re excited to introduce new mixes, some of which will be P74 heavy. Quick question for those of who have a lot of experience with P74.
Do you find that this enhances any mix? Any negatives?
From what I’ve seen with my own eyes, the only negative might be the time you could need for social interactions. I’m not sure P74 is really appropriate unless you have time to hangout and bond.
I haven’t seen this in use in a red hot sexually charged encounters, though. I’m wondering if this is good in those situations, too. Anyone?
p74 confuses me. I’ve noticed nothing but mild friendlyness the 3 times i’ve used it. I thought it was supposed to be realy chatting, life of the party feel?
I’ve used up to 3 sprays of 12.5mcg. Am I missing something?
I don’t have a whole lot of experience with P74, but I have been running a few trials with it (by itself and in mixes)
Women seem a little…addicted to me when I throw it into the mix. Thats the best way I can describe it. It seems to have the magnetism of TAL, but works better at creating sexual magnetism when used in conjunction with sexual type pheromones. To put it simple, it isn’t as girly as TAL, though P74 doesn’t seem to be the most masculine pheromone either.
oooh i hope someone posts about using this with cops,or with Ammo.
as soon as i get mine, im wicked sexing it up.
Sigma,
i notice the addictive behaviour when i wear instant shine. people hang around longer than the conversation,you know? its almost as if they are just happy being in the vicinity…
I’ve worn it to clubs twice now, and women really tend to follow me around and want to be around me. One of my friends had gotten really hammered and was stuck to me at the hip the whole night. I actually saw her hunting around for me a couple of times when we had gotten separated, asking other people where I had gone and what-not. At the end of the night I walked her out of the club and she planted a peck on me…which wasn’t that big of a deal, but being that we’re good friends (and very much hands-off) it threw me completely off-guard. She’s an otherwise very attractive girl though, and most people that I introduce to her end up asking me about her later.
At any rate that particular event was a more extreme occurrence and one that isn’t attributed completely to P74 (sexual pheromones + alcohol). P74 did add that extra element to a mix that I’ve been testing extensively.
Other than that people (women) seem to want to be around me. I really think it gives you a heightened social presence. Not necessarily chatty/fun or penetrating like alpha or beta Androstenol (respectively), but people are very much aware of of you in a social sense. People really seem impacted by you, if that makes any sense. Definitely a good counter-point to the pheromones that cause a lot of avoidance; ie androstenone.
I think P74 might pair well with A314 in a mix, which I’ll be sure to try this weekend. I tested P74 with a high dose of MX146 (Instant Openness Test Pack) and Turn Up The Heat on Saturday, and it really felt like it needed something like A314 to ground things a bit. I was really fired up and all over the place..needed to sloooooow things down.
Jasmine has had reactions from males so I’m not sure if its a distinctly male pheromone.
I’ve seen mostly women reacting to P74, though it isn’t so womanly like TAL. I see similar types of reactions from TAL and P74. TAL put me in the vicinity of women while actually seeming to push men away. P74 also seems to put me in their vicinity, facilitate an obvious attraction, and keep them ‘looking’ for more. I wouldn’t call it a sexual pheromone though. Not just yet anyway.
I’m still not too conclusive on P74 just yet…need to test further. But its Spring break and I’m sure I’ll have plenty of testing opportunities this week.
A314 is a good counter-point to P74…or perhaps P74 is a good counter-point to A314.
P74 is socially very light. Very much an attention grabber. Creates a whole lot of social magnetism, but is also very socially ‘up in the air’. Spacey, socially careless, maybe a little too open at times. Its a little sexual and edgy…makes women kind of adore you.
A314 is very socially heavy. Smooth, sophisticated…has a profound impact on people when you’re around. At high doses its very anti-social.
A314 should be used with P74 at a very subtle amount…for me a single spray of MX102 -togo. A314 will very easily over-power P74 at high doses…high doses of A314 seem to overpower everything actually (as I noticed when I wore 3 drops of mutant to a wedding last week).
A314 seems to work well at ‘anchoring’ P74, and slowing it down a bit. Where P74 can make you socially careless (too fired up), A314 has a tendency to make you more socially aware and more self-aware. I think a slight amount of A314 ads just the right amount of masculinity to P74. Socially drawn to you, with the smooth sexiness of A314.
I love P74 - and Steveo was on the mark wrt the energetic aspects. I’s prob too much for an office environment most of the time though. I only apply at night.
Wow, thank you so much for your observations. If A314 overpowers P74, that might be the reason why I did not notice much difference because I always wear 2 or 3 drops of A314. Sooooo… today I will try a dab of A314 and 50 mcg of P74.
A look back at SwingerMD’s early posts on the putatives (he was really a pioneer back in those days!) shows that he thought of P74 as eliciting a light ‘boyfriend’ effect. It added extra connection/empathy for him - see the following…
SwingerMD (March 28, 2006):
“…Yes, p74 does seem to elicit a light “boyfriend” effect. I also have notice that both sexes really open up, very candid, and volunteer information on how they are feeling and what is on their mind. Sorta like what I hear about the effects of Instant Honesty (just got it but haven’t used it yet). The latter effects were from friends/acquaintances. It kinda bumped them up a notch toward close friends…”
SwingerMD (April 30, 2006):
“…Couple that with the very strong boyfriendish connection/empathy that p74 seems evoke…”
Swinger MD (July 7, 2006):
Originally Posted by tacitus have been trying fairly strong doses [of P74]… concluded that it is a friendly pheromone, no big shifts in any given direction, a warm friendly old dog of a pheromone, everybody’s in a good mood without being sexy or spacy… a nice hang out and go with the flow booster…
". . . um tell that to the woman (close to legally blind) that mistook me for her boyfriend. :o "
Today I’m testing MX157 which contains P74 in an ammo base…
It feels good, but I’m not feeling different than usual.
I went to a bank (small branch) and sat in a female manager’s office (she’s married though) and saw no reactions there..
At a supermarket an old lady entered the lift while I was in it and spoke to me like she knew me. That was it really. I didn’t manage to meet any interesting singles and it was packed (but mostly not with singles)..
Hopefully tonight I’ll have some other/better test result.. there will be lots of people where I’ll be so more probability of meeting someone good. I’ll respray too.
Yeah - I’ll have to concur with it being a little too much for an office environment. I tend to agree with swingermd’s assertion of it being IH-ish. Too much talking. But whereas with the androstenols I’m happily just as chatty - the time i wore P74 as part of my business mix - it was jsut too much talking for me. I couldn’t focus on what people were saying, and most of the time i just wanted to get away.
I’m going to be somewhere of the sort tonight, where fun is inappropriate.. still I’ll spray one more… it doesn’t seem to have made me happy ala spaceland. On the contrary this afternoon I’ve been somewhat angry…
edit: the avatar isn’t me in case someone is wondering!
I think for guys sometimes you can be a bit too fun. Being fun is good, but it can work against you if you go overboard and seem to lose your composure.
This is what happened to me when I wore a high dose of P74 and got drunk. A pinch A314 is a good anchor though. Keeps you more consciously aware of yourself, while allowing others to react positively to the P74.
As for the boyfriend effect…I’ve seen some evidence of this myself. Women seem to get very clingy when I wear this stuff out (as mentioned in one case during my earlier trials with it).
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