P74 Stand alone

P74 Day 1:
8:00AM Total of 20mcgs applied to shoulders and forearms.
Breakfast at familiar restaurant. Known waitress. Nothing noted.

9:00AM brought total application up to 30mcgs adding sides and back of neck

11:30AM Watering hole for lunch. Known barmaid and several regulars. Nothing noted.

12:30 Went to restroom and brought application up to 50mcgs.
Spent another hour there with nothing notable.

6:00PM – application now up to 70mcgs.
LTR arrived and we went to dinner. Known restaurant and waitress.
Waitress did visit our table more than usual, but no extra non-work discussion.

8:00PM – Went to visit some friends for a couple of hours. Application totals 80mcgs now. Seemed the conversation was a little more upbeat and animated than usual. Discussed many more subjects than usual. A happy occasion.

Maybe this stuff is good as a sleep aid. I went to bed two hours early and slept in an hour and a half more than usual. ZZZZZzzzz

P74 Day 2:
9:00AM Initial application of 80mcgs – now including neck, shoulders, forearms and chest. Breakfast at the same restaurant with the same waitress. Nothing noted. Argh! Kicked it up to 90mcgs.

9:45 Went to department store looking for an item. I got within 3 feet and asked a young woman cashier as to the products’ location. She started to explain directions but changed her mind and demeanor saying, “I’ll take you there”. Hmmm. Just maybe?

Noon: Inside fast food restaurant for a burger. Nothing noted.

I ordered it unscented and after the alcohol it dry – it’s odorless.
Now I’m really starting to think that this stuff is a dud - a placebo. :angry:

1:30PM: Showed up at the local watering hole and a dozen or so of the Saturday regulars were there and only two women. The mood was rather quiet. What little conversation there was verged on the somberness of work, home and life problems.

I went to the restroom and increased the application to 140mcgs! What the heck! Maybe I can OD. What happened next was really interesting.

An automobile race was on the tube, not audible, and nobody watching it. So I figured that I was just going to chill out and expect a dull afternoon. The air-conditioner was on low and the doors are all closed and I’m sitting there with a beer in hand wearing 140mcgs of P74 upwind of just about everyone.

About 15 minutes after I arrived, somebody fed the jukebox. As the silly little ditty from the early '50’s played, the guy next to me started singing along quietly to himself. I joined in for a couple of lines and then the other guy next to me got into it. Well our confidence was strengthened and we started singing louder. :open_mouth:

The barmaid, who was apparently a little upset about the whole situation shouted, “Hey! We don’t do Karaoke here!” at which time two more guys joined in! Then she finally broke out laughing.

For the next four hours that jukebox didn’t get a rest as everyone took a turn at playing it and sometimes singing along. I’ve never seen this bunch have so much fun! And I think the jukebox made the owner more money than his beer sales today.

But now my bottle is getting pretty low and I am torn between trying to confirm this type of behavior at a different watering hole – or take it to work when management wants to have a serious all hands meeting.
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Good post Jedi!

Isn’t it all pheromones great sleeping aid the first few times you wear them? :smiley:

Probably not p74, since it is such a widely reported product, and everyone has different results using it. Most pheromones or putative dont smell much. Even taa for example, has only a faint sweet note, androstenol smell weak too. And also it depends on different people.

Looks like that people went to follow u at the jukebox :slight_smile: maybe some leadership effects?

I noticed you continually upped the dosage.
Now, when using new pheromones, before you change the dosage remember the timeline. Most pheromones are active for 4-6 hours.

It would appear that you are increasing the amount of sprays to compensate for your social skills. Instead of putting on more sprays, you could engage in longer conversations and try different social environments.

Example: flirt with the waitress at one bar, demand extra good service at another, be very happy or talk slowly and hypnotically…these are all good ones to hook someones attention. If you don’t have their attention, you will not be able to differentiate between their responses.

Very astute observation there evolver. :slight_smile:

  1. I note the times of upping the deposits because I do not know how fast it is evaporating. I really doubt I was at 140, but I do it for the record.

  2. When doing a stand alone observation, I do not want to do anything outside my regular interactions with people and taint the results. I want to know what kind of responses the product might bring about on its own and thus have a clue on its potential.

I did the same with P93 and have more of that on order.

I love it when pheromones turn real life into a movie scene. :slight_smile: I’ve seen a similar effect with P74 at lower levels, even 40 mcg. It’s like the cooperation pheromone. I know it is amazing for meetings and group brainstorming. Bet it’d be swell for team sports too.

Kitten and Evo are steering you right. Instead of trying to repeat the karaoke scene go back to smaller doses and see if you can do things you just weren’t aware you could do before. Over and over again I see guys looking for things to happen when all along folks are just waiting for the guy to start something. 90% you 10% pheromones. And just so you know it’s not as easy to test putatives.

p74 is real good stuff, but it smells kinda odd to me. not like BO, but like something similar-ish. It took me a while to realize what I was smelling, but that was it. But I seemed to be the only one to ever notice it, and I always got good reactions from it.

It is indeed not as easy testing putatives. That is why I want to observe that 10% standing alone - by itself.

I think you nailed it, Kitten. Some sort of community bonder.

Didn’t have too much initial success with P74 either. It’s not a good stand-alone product (for me anyways).

It’s one of my favorite putatives though, but it’s also a product that for some reason tends to only work when used in compliment with certain others.

I’ve observed men getting pretty good results using P74 alone, but maybe it’s not the type of results the male eye can easily see. That’s always an interesting issue.

What do you like complimenting it with? Maybe you have some other posts that talk about that?

It’s all in my journal. But I do agree that there’s some changes manifested (only subconsciously though) in the people around you when using P74 by itself.

Initially it really was harder to gauge what exactly P74 was doing, but I came to the conclusion that it was mere subtle subconscious attachment other men feel around you, but bonding doesn’t happen unless it’s an addition of 'nols, or even TAL (unisex social attachment but not as amplified as nols for male bonding).

A pizza isn’t a pizza unless it’s got cheese and pizza sauce. Social bonding isn’t social bonding unless it’s got a conscious and subconscious molecular framework behind it.

Well, the original italian pizza had no cheese and no pizza sauce… :smiley:

I agree with you that P74 works best when combined with other molecules - or as Jas put it makes the effects more obvious for the beholder. For me it always works great when combined with alpha-nol. I haven’t tried it with TAL - maybe that’s worth a try…

There’s something really special about P74. We already know what happens when used with nols, but its a putative that can just about be used with anything. People rave about how P79 enhances the phero cloud for all mixes, but the reason why P74 is so effective is because it compliments instead of enhancing.

How can you go wrong by adding attachment to another base? A314 with P74 is a great bond which feels more like a wizard and his apprentice. With none it seems to sensualise the overtly aggressive kick to a degree. etc etc.

could you elaborate on that?:smiley:

That’s a great report, Tmoz!

I would love to see 3 MXs based on what you say, and I’ll give you a $50 gift cert for each.

  1. I want one with P74 + -none, you specify the mcg’s of each.

  2. P74 + one -nol, you specify the mcg’s of each.

  3. P74 as a significant presence in any mix you can imagine. This can have as many or as few pheromones as you like, but it should be based in what you’ve been having good results with.

Please don’t include any molecules that would break patents, such as Estratetraenol or A1, or be illegal in the US, like testosterone or boldenone.

This week I wore P74 solo one day at work - 75mcgs on my shirt.
Unfortunately I had few visitors to my cube.
The one notable visit was from female employee KC and was an interesting exchange.
It started in the hall. She had a many cases in her hand.
“Are you running away from me?”
“I can think of no reason I would ever do that to you”.
Long pause with constant eye contact.
“I’m sorry; I know you don’t like people to bother you” (don’t know where she gets that)
“I always enjoy our visits together.” We went to my cube and each sat down.
Discussed all the backlogged cases she had on a particular issue. How these were escalated six months ago and not acted on by the clueless higher ups. How either of us could go find the solution except for a protocol prohibition imposed by the wicked witch.- how management was missing in action and unable to make a decision.
Long story short:
“You have done the right thing. You and I are in this sad situation together. The cases are precisely where they said the cases should be.”
“But they will sit there for another six months!”
“Yes, you know that reason and logic need to be established as viable options. You have done what they asked of you. It is not your fault that people above you are inept. You are intelligent and therefore will suffer. Know that you are not alone in this. We are in this together.” We were both looking at each other for quite a while. She got up, not loosing eye contact.
“Okay” as she moves up to exit my cube. She stopped and we were eye-to-eye for a bit too long and she says, “I’ll be back later”..
“I certainly hope so. I am looking forward to it”
She looked at me a second longer, then left.
Hmmm. Next time will be interesting.


A couple of days later, we had a real dull meeting on another issue. I had arrived early in the conference room with my P74 bottle and managed to spray some of the head areas of some chairs. I also put some on the table’s surface and some sprays under the table. About 200mcgs in all available to that third of the room.

This was an MX203 solo day for me – so I didn’t spray myself.

Well, dull meetings go slow and this bunch is usually a bit more more relaxed and immobile. But not today! They were a whole lot more cooperatively yawning, stretching, doodling with their eyes closed, yawning, rolling their eyes, stretching and grinning at each others antics. The body language was shouting, “We are bored”!.