p75 OD test

After going through my phero stash - (just getting moved into new house), I found my long lost p75 12.5 mcg togo bottle. I estimate it was about 2 yrs old, so the age of the molecule may be a factor here, I’m honestly not sure. I wanted to revisit some of the self effects again. I had a day off, but needed to go by my work to make a few calls and mediate some delivery issues with customers.

2 sprays p75 @ 12.5 mcg each (1 on each side of neck)

I knew it would be over my limit, but did not know how the age would affect the potency. Self effects began hitting me in 20 mins. After an hour of working around the house, the effects peaked. I went from feeling focused and motivated to aggressive…and still motivated.

Had to visit my store to chat with some customers. I was curious how it would affect my long-time coworkers. I didn’t notice anything right away. I made a few calls with confidence - pretty routine calls. Then one customer came in. A man in his 50s with his wife. He was not my customer, so I just spectated as my coworker handled it. No big deal, we just needed to make a call to reroute a delivery and refund a small amount for his time to smooth things over. The man’s wife seemed unaffected and was happy to get a small refund for the delay in delivery. The man, however, began to spiral out of control in an aggressive manner.

The male coworker, who is always calm and collected began to get progressively aggressive as well. That was a shocker and I know it was because of p75 - never seen him act like that in the 4yrs I’ve worked with him.

As the interaction kept spiraling downward and getting more heated, I noticed the male customer staring at me while his wife did some talking. I was near but in the background and never said a word to this guy. He was glaring at me…and I mean it looked like a fight-or-flight kind of stare. I just wanted that moment to be over so I could finish my work. At the end of the interaction, the guy takes 2 steps into my space and looks up at me and says “IS THERE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SAY?!? DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM?!?”:open_mouth:. This guy was actually trying to bait me into a fight! I felt the same fight-or-flight reflex take over - clinched fists and glaring back. I remained silent while his wife took his arm and pulled him away. My other coworkers and management were stunned, as was I.

Conclusion:

Obviously I OD’d on p75 and it had a dramatic affect on everyone within about a 10 ft radius. I knew it was way too high of a dose and didn’t expect to be around any customers while I took care of my phone calls. Good grief, this is one edgy molecule. I haven’t felt aggression quite that high from any other molecule, including very high -none. I do like the self effects at very low dosage, and I have a 30ml bottle @ 2.5mcg on the way to continue testing at much more manageable levels. This OD test was no fun at all and will never try it again. Surely the age of the bottle probably affected the results, but even at 2 yrs old and total of 25mcg, this is powerful stuff not to be taken lightly.

Wow, CRAZY! Great OD experience! I hope it didn’t leave any lasting issues for you, but what an experience! Maybe slather on the IS and TAH next time you show up, lol!

How did you keep a togo good for 2 whole years?? It must’ve been sealed like a motha! Was it in your fridge or anything? Do you have any clue how full (or low) the bottle was the last time you used it? That could give a hint to how concentrated your dose was. I’m guessing it was likely quite higher than 12.5 per spray by this point, with the alcohol evaporation.

Try around 40mcg - It got so edgy that I could clear whole rooms! :open_mouth:

I keep my togos in those resealable plastic butter containers:

Stored on its side in the dark - no problem with leaks at all in more than two years for some togos - Even ones from the notoriously leaky batches.

I’m not surprised this happened with that dosage!

I found even at 2,5 mcg P75 can have strong mood altering effects, not only on the wearer but also on the people around you.

Even if people are standing pretty far away from you they can feel P75. It has one of the strongest projections of all the mones I tried to so far.

Fight-or-flight yes exactly. P75 is something you can use to mark your territory, like animals do. Depending on the nature of the interaction you’re having, it can either cause people to show you respect (buddy-buddy from guys), submission (girls will seek your protection and will be attracted to you) or cause them to be hostile and confrontational.

My rule of thumb from now on: if people around you have any reason not to like you, leave the P75 out. It’ll make things worse.

Reps for testing it this way.

I kept the pheros I didn’t use often in a little shaving travel bag. I used maybe 5 sprays out of it when it arrived a couple of years ago. There was definitely some evaporation and some yellowing of the liquid. I haven’t thought about it in so long until I read some recent reports here and wanted to revisit it.

Everyone at work is still talking about how bizarre the whole situation was and laughing about it. I’m wearing all IS and p74 today. Playing it safe.

Thanks for the advice Mobo and MissD.

My experiences have never resulted in any sort of aggression, even at 30mcg solo, unless the male(s) in question have no real route of escape. Even the most aggressive alpha males fear P75, IME. No one has ever attempted to challenge my authority at high doses. However, P75 isn’t something I’d wear to work. The fact that this customer had to be in your presence for a short period of time is likely what caused him to display such strong aggression. In a situation that can easily be escaped, 100% of men choose “flight” over fight. Have you attempted this experiment in a different setting, like walking around a mall or park? I’m willing to bet you’d be in for some very different experiences. One last tip, if you attempt this experiment again: make sure there’s a nice helping of latinas at your venue of choice, my friend. :smiley:

I will definitely give it a go at 2.5 mcg, as my order should arrive today. It seems to give me quite a confidence boost and that helps me with social anxiety. Might even dilute it to 1.25 mcg and maybe one spray under my shirt. I totally agree with the extended range of this molecule. I will report back on effects in some different environments. Thanks to all for the advice.

2.5 is my goto dose on this one. I can tolerate much higher but I can get burnt out at the end of the day with a higher dose. I still up the dose on certain occasions where I want a more intimidating signature in a competitive sales environment (trade shows) or when I want to “reach out and touch” the ladies in a room full of them. Ladies can definitely tolerate higher doses of this one more than guys. The clue is, as the Dragon Lady stated, is to buffer it to smooth out the selfies. I tame it down with IS or IO. Im sure there are a few Putatives that would work as well…blanking on that at the moment, will come back..

Try adding TAK.

Thanks Monesmadedoit! Ive been meaning to pick some of that up. I will give it a try.

MX297 is another to complement a smaller P75 dose well - It takes nothing from the “rockstar” vibe and its very playful/fun in all the right ways around younger/Asian women.

I have actually had girls exposed to this on me sneak-up and take photos! :open_mouth: :smiley:

Oh good..I have 3 bottles of mx297 in my stash. I can try that right away. Ill let you know how it goes. Thank you…