All these recent threads have convinced me to try P75 at small (2.5-7.5mcg) doses, but the store seems to be stocking it only in 12.5 mcg. Are people diluting it, trying to do half sprays or what’s the trick?
Normally you get a 30nl bottle at 2.5ncg but supplies must be low.
Diluting would be the next best option.
I use 12.5 mcg no problem.
I just ordered 2.5 mcg 30 ml and it didn’t say out of stock.. Should be fine now to buy. My new bottles on the way.
EDIT: My new 30 ml 2.5 mcg bottle has arrived.
I sure hope p75 doesn’t become a rare putative in the future.. This one is golden..
Store was showing as togo only last night (not logged-in) but its back to the full range now so maybe just a temporary stock level issue. This happens.
Yeah I was able to order to 30ml, decided to try 5mcg it’s at the lab now looking forward to trying it out! I’ve read that it should be buffered, if I have summer ammo, IS, p83, mx297, and p130 in the arsenal what would be the best thing to try?
Summer Ammo or MX297 are the two most likely there. The rest are useful secondaries but not really moderators by themselves.
I’ve tried 2.5 mcg P75 along with 2 sprays MX297 a couple times recently with some pretty potent self effects and what I believed to be pretty good hits on girls (18-24 yo).
@mobocaster , considering I’m using 2 sprays of Mx297, do you see it possibly beneficial to bump up my P75 to 5mcg? If targeting younger girls is my goal, would over 2.5mcg start becoming intimidating?
5-7.5mcg is a good dose for me with 2 sprays MX297 but I think age is a factor here.
I am in my young 20s so I guess I will stick with 2.5mcg. Seems to be a pretty good dose. I could test 5mcg if I ever wanted to
It REALLY IS all about TESTING and finding out what works for YOU, Mr. Guy!
Fear not! Test ALL! ![]()
Yup, start with that but do test other doses. Don’t be afraid to push the envelope to see how a more extreme sig suits you, it’s how we all learn. ![]()
I used to thing 2.5 was a big deal–then I did ten times that! It’s not so bad as people make it out to be. There’s much less to fear from 25 mcg P75 than from that much e-None, although plenty of folks feel just fine with 25 mcg None. 75 is not that bad. No violence or typical None OD at all.
Testing THE UNKNOWN is always a good idea. I just shake my head when I read, “I DON’T WANT TO OD.” And it’s mostly caused by them reading that from another post, and NOT TESTING TO FIND OUT. ![]()
Glad you learned for yourself, Mr. Do IT! ![]()
Give me an example of a situation when you’d choose to wear 5.0 mcg of p75 vs 2.5 mcg.. Is your choice purely self effect related or do you find this aids the targets in certain situations and if so please give examples.
7.5 is the approximate optimum for gender-specific effects and benefits. Changing demographics, social media, etc has changed bars and clubs in the USA. Specifically, eligible women need only choose from a few of dozens of dating apps. Men come to them. They can choose, screen and exclude men as they choose. This has meant that “an excess of pain in the ass superfluous men” is a problem at many clubs. Unfortunately, competing (or deterring) males is a bigger issue than attracting women. 7.5 effectively sends a powerful dominance message to other males and is still quite pleasant to women, because the masculine social proof is evident. In a bar with 20 people, 80% men (a disappointingly common sight in much of Florida), only one or two girls may be of interest to me. Gaining their attention will begin at 7.5 mcg. If necessary, I will double this. Whatever guy was talking to my target shortly will not be. If 15 mcg is not enough, we’ll make it 20. The girl will quickly make the subconscious association that I am dominant, because in this time 10 men have left, and she has only me left to talk to.
If you’re the sole male imprisoned upon the Isle of Women, I don’t think seduction will be a problem. It’s a numbers game, but P75 is quite the flamethrower and requires skill. See my forthcoming signature link to “pheromone philosophy.” One more point. It’s important that international readers know Florida is worlds different from Canada, Toronto GTA, UK or Europe. It’s already getting too warm to store pheros in a car and nearly too warm to wear them outdoors.
Very good examples MMDI.
I am trying out 5 mcg p75 today… I just sprayed some on 2 hrs ago and only now am I getting relaxed enough to be coherent with it on. Went to the mall and watched as people cleared my path.. it was pure power and antisocial..
It’s 1 hr before I head out to a restaurant I’m working on a new waitress with… i am going to apply ammo and socials in 30 min and see if it tames my raw power vibe and report back the results tonight.
Try as best to disconnect yourself from the self effects and start testing higher amounts. You’ll have to be prepared for a few negative reactions. P75 is not the ideal in high amounts in one-on-one situations with women, such as in a car. Its value comes from social proof in mixed male-female company. However, if you want something novel as a single attraction product, try testing P130 alone among these hostesses. Ask for a sample with your next order. I will be one calling this a fav if they ever sell it.
EDIT: I’ve come back from my outing..I had applied 5.0 p75 3 hrs earlier. after I applied ammo IS IO IH I was able to strike good conversation with the waitress (portugese girl) and once she collected the bill I asked her about her favorite tastes in cuisine. She told me she was into seafood and buffets and before told me many of the restaurants she likes..Its a good thing I asked because one of the restaurants I was going to take her too she didn’t like. The other restaurants she mentioned gave me hints as to what she likes.. Now I know. After I stated all this I said .. today I’ve learned something about you.
She said “come back again next week and learn more about me”. So next sunday I will ask her some more questions, makes silly talk and ask her to have dinner with me at a buffet , preferably a seafood restaurant she enjoys.
The combo was an instant success.. Next time I have something to work with to ask her out after exams are over.
p75 made several things happen.. First of all I wasn’t even seated in her section.. I had the confidence to ask to be seated there. Second i touched her forearm today when I made a joke with her. This is the second time I’ve touched her arms. I have to be careful here as we are not on a date yet.
Lots of eye contact, great posture, and funny in the moment jokes by me usually puns for example she says she loves crab so I say “but you don’t seem crabbidy”.. She had a good laugh …
I think this mix is solid.. Perhaps I don’t need 5.0 mcg everytime. But it certainly didn’t hurt.
Next time I go in there I have the perfect close.. I know she loves seafood so what better than Red lobster. I’ll ask her out and get her #.. She may go for me as I’ve built a small connection with her over the last 3 weeks. From the START I was pure man.. Always initiating.. Always using soft kino on her arms and shoulders. And always taking the lead in conversation.
She expects me to lead now..
Oh I noticed in a thread you had posted long ago you mentioned the p75 effect is the effect that you the last man standing.. Women wonder why other men have left but your still around so your status and intrigue goes up in their eyes. Well that is exactly what happened.. i stuck around the restaurant and even ordered more coffee so that I would be there after the people at tables she served beside me had left.. then i got her when she was alone and got personal.
p75 is just that.. the last man standing…
This is pretty much a problem in any part of the Western World TBH.
But yes, it is also the sort of situation where a more up-front dose of any phero will help mark you out and the pressure of other guys only serves to push the sexual nature of the environment up considerably - Which is often no bad thing.
If you can drop any hint of neediness and desperation, you will not need to worry about the vast majority of those men - and become far more interesting because of it. In places like this, I usually find any interest is a lot more direct and to the point, manyfold! Most of the women looking to hook-up are out to find a suitable guy, usually with some class as quickly as they can and hang-on to him in the face of these jokers.
The only thing to avoid with p75 is using it in combos that provoke aggression or seriously competitive behaviour - unless you are ready and willing to handle it successfully. This is something I can’t do because of my foot/shoulder problems, so has limited my going to such places but one the surgery is past, I’ll be back and enjoying them as much as ever.
So don’t let it worry you that much! ![]()