I have 30 mL of both p75(2.5mcg) and p74 (10mcg). I’ve seen a couple posts where guys have tried this with decent results. Do you see this combo working well on younger girls (18-25)? I’m in my young 20’s myself. I would like to keep it attractive but still pretty social for the young girls. I’ve tried reg Ammo at just 1 spray(with IS) before with bad results and only getting hits from older women. I went away from -none and got p75 instead. Im thinking I may need 1.25 mcg P75 with 20-30mcg P74. Does this combo sound like it can give solid results for young Asian and Indian girls?
I’ve always found any P74-mix good around Indian women and yes, I have done P75/P74 and found it reasonable, in a sort of wistful yearning way around younger ones.
I’d suggest you keep the P74 to 20mcg or below to avoid the “best friend” vibe and some IS will lift/steer the mix in a sexy/playful direction nicely. 
Do you think there’s a possibility of the combo being intimidating to young girls even with the 20mcg p74? I did 2.5 mcg p75 with 20mcg p74, and I did get some slight intimidation looks from a couple girls. I’d rather come off more on the friendly side than on the intimidating side. I’m hoping dropping to 1.25 mcg p75 will solve the problem.
This is partly why I suggest some IS in the mix but you could go higher on the P74 - A younger guy could well have more natural none, which would offset the P74 a bit and compound the P75 - So yes, either way would do.
P74 30mcg + 2.5 mcg P75 is an awsome mix for attracting young women, do a search if you want to find my adventures with that exact mix, you must have game with this mix though and have good rapport building skills, it is not a smack in the face attraction mix you gotta put in the work to see results, but it just makes gaming so much easier.
I’d suggest 1.25 of P75, 10-20 of 74, maybe .5-1 mcg of -eNone mixed (rather than layered) and maybe a few shots of IH atop the mix. You’ll need some None or it’s not so good for sex.
I’ve been testing out 2.5mcg P75 with 20mcg P74 as well as with 30mcg P75. So far, it just seems that girls are avoiding me a bit more and do not seem as interested. Also, my guy friends seem to not be interested or do not see me in the same social way as before. Ive also tried with 1.25 mcg P75 with similar results. Just seems that everybody is taking steps back from me.
I’m pretty young and do regular weightlifting/cardio (also have broad shoulders and tall). I’m just thinking that maybe P75 is too strong for my natural -none signature. I lift heavy and sweat a lot plus Im in my young 20s. Perhaps, all I need is a good layer of socials and maybe a status mone. I’m gonna try just doing P74 solo at 20-30 mcg to see if that can successfully complement my possible naturally high none signature. Possibly some IS too. Any thoughts on this? Has anyone heard of guys who just use socials with great results due to their natural signature or even personality?
to me P74 is instant attraction.alot of people say 74 is beta,well not with me.it all depend on your appearance and character.if you’re too nice and laid back,74 can be beta.im not an alpha,not a beta just an average joe.but i have high testosterone level,tall,dark,exercise,friendly but turn aggressive when people piss me off and appear intimidating to some people.therefore i use P74 solo at 30mcg and i get nothing but attraction from girls,and buddy buddy from guys.plus i don’t feel beta at all.but when i reach 40mcg(way too much)i start to feel beta
Seems like we share some of the same characteristics. I want that P74 to give me that approachable, cool, attractive social vibe while my personality is providing that slightly alpha, social vibe. Do you notice attraction from girls in a “I want you” kind of way or a “I really wanna get to know you cuz youre so cool” way?
I’ll be testing out 30mcg P74 solo soon!
What’s this fascination with little to no none for early encounters and increasing none as encounters progress? I find it hard to believe nature intended things this way.
A dominant man may initially come across as a predator or sexually aggressive man but there will always be women who respond to his signature young or old.. At first they may be slightly intimidated but the attraction is still there.
I don’t look at a hot sexy babe and think today I am attracted to her, but unless she loses her hot body she doesn’t get a first date.
Either attraction exists or it doesn’t. If you wanted to be treated as sexual it helps to portray that image. You can still act nice and polite to offset the aggressiveness.
This is why I am still at a loss for why people think .05 none for first encounter, 1.0 for second, 2.0 for third.
Unless higher none mixes make one experience self effects of becoming rather antisocial , or violent etc one could always act and be polite.
Do you really think Kimbo Slice would get anyone requesting his autograph if his huge size was not counter balanced with a polite personality in front of fans.
I think as men age and produce less none , even moreso is none important.
Laying off the none gets you friends. And unless your just looking for talk buddies etc you run the risk of being put in the friends box.
It’s often stated a woman categorizes a man as a sexual mate or friend right from the 5 sec mark. That means if you’re going to bring the goods.. bring it on right away!
Does that mean ONS right away ..! ? NO! It just means showing assertiveness and getting that date sooner rather than later.. Whether you kiss on the first date or not or do anything more is really dependent on whether the two of you are a good match and how the evening progresses, what you have the say, your conversations, your cultures, your interests and basically social dynamics.
I think these factors are more important than dosing none for different dates and hoping that will be enough to secure a woman.
ONCE p75 and tremendous IO worked for me with a bartender. But overall without ammo in there I don’t even get a glance because at 40 I’m naturally a low none producer.
None by itself could be the kiss of death for many opportunities, but mixed in a abalanced formula, social dynamics will take it anywhere.
I’ve yet to have a woman tell me to fuck off because I come on to her. And I’m sneaky enough to warm up to women slowly over 3-4 encounters before I ask for the first date.
I’m afraid without none your in LJBF land unless you happen to be a naturally high none producers.. eg Black orgin, or in your early 20’s or a bodybuilder etc.
75 without none is just power and sweetness and no sexual appeal.. Toss in 5.0 mcg none on a 40 year old and suddenly he’s competing with men half his age.
I reserve all rights to be wrong, and if I am please prove me wrong.. I am here to learn like anyone else.. This is just my opinion from personal experience.
The key is gradually increasing sexual tension to the point of simmering, so that sex is a natural release of that tension. Every woman has her own sweet spot. It’s her’s, not yours. No two are alike. It may change by the day. You should start low and probe upward with the dose.
*Part of making your intentions clear is creating sexual tension. In my opinion this is something you should create with every eligible women of interest simply because you may be in a position and the inclination to move forward later in the acquaintance. You can do this by making your intentions clear, using body language, flirting and not being her emotional outlet. I am not encouraging you to be insensitive. If her dog gets hit by a car or her BFF dies then of course you will be sensitive to her but do not become her sounding board for every trivial problem and emotion. Do not be her comfort zone. If she starts to do this cut her off politely.
hey everyone, im curious, dont crucify me for posting here!
Most every woman can sense 1 mcg of None. She’ll get the sexual signal. Frankly, women report that even one half spray of TUTH makes them off the chain horny. I studied nearly every report on this forum of women’s self effects tests with -eNone. I conclude that a man wearing None is about one fourth the potency of a women wearing it. So 2.0 worn equals about .5 of a woman wearing it. These are approximates. Wearing .5 or 1 of None is about the lowest amount that produces noticeable effects with women. But, with the youngsters, they aren’t as confident as cougars. 30+ girls usually respond quite well to 5 mcg or so.
Now, read this and think it over. Think carefully please. If you were a professional phermones company, would you think that you’d have at least expert knowledge for every test mix you make? Would you think there’s some science to the notion of a men’s mix with fractional amounts of None? Keep in mind, JV Kohl is a pioneer and expert. Essentially, much of his work discounts None. I don’t. I just think more guys get ghosted than they realize, 'cause they’re c*ck slapping girls in the face with None. The value of AMMO is that alphanol makes a damn good chemical diffuser for -eNone, because it’s a hydrogen bond donor. It makes None burn faster. TAC makes None and 75 both burn in 4 vs 8 hours. It’s chemical physics. It’s the top secret science of the perfume industry. M. Harris talked about it in 2006. It’s quantum physics at the molecular level when it comes to diffusion. That’s what “buffers” and “steering” are. It takes an expert physicist/chemist that studies these formulas at the atomic level. That’s why AMMO works for you.
Let me explain more, because it is the Rosetta Stone of mones. See how little P83 is used here in these mixes? Normally, a layered dose is 30 mcg. Most mones burn better and at smaller amounts in mixes, due to the chemical physics. Most hydrogen bond donors bond to the very potent charge in the Oxygen atom of None. It’s the fundamental building block of men’s mixes. It takes about double the amount of layered TAC to equal the same buffer as in mixes. I’ve tested it all to hell and back. Works 100%.
I tried 30mcg for experimental purpose,not for attraction purpose.with me 30mcg solo doesn’t give me that sensual or boyfriend material attraction from the ladies.but more of a ‘he is such a cool guy and im intrigued’.like i said if your appearance and personality is too soft,too nice 74 can be very beta.anyway with me 20-30mcg solo is good for general attraction,or to have a relax and chill atmosphere with friends and family.but if i want to attract the ladies,74 solo is not enough.you need to combine it with something masculine and sexy(A314,IG,P75)or something sexual.if you’re intimidating,go REALLY low on masculine and sexual.A314 and 75 can be intimidating,so i would suggest go with IG.a masculine product without the intimidation.since you’re an enone powerhouse IG+P74+social should be a nice combo.but for the guys with low testosterone you need to add some enone into this mix,otherwise you’re going to get that ‘let’s just be friends’
“.im not an alpha,not a beta just an average joe.but i have high testosterone level,tall,dark,exercise,friendly but turn aggressive when people piss me off and appear intimidating to some people”
I’m glad you wrote this. I come off like this, and feel neither, leader nor follower, sort a like lone wolf. I do enjoy being in a group of guys, like at the gym working out, and don’t have problems even relating to a bunch of girls.
If somebody gets in my face, like I was working in a prison for a few months(took a stress related sick leave) then I don’t know what happens, but I go into something like" a kill " mode, without regard to my personal safety. I liked the job, actually miss the action, but the command sucked, bad.
I did try pheros at the prison,a phero copulin mix, from LA, a few times, and it was pretty strange. Got, 2 young girls phone numbers, one was a fellow officer and one was a nurse. It’s funny that one night I was in the control room with the officer, and she took her shoe off and asked me what I thought of her foot. Then she asked me if I was into licking toes. I would say that this was a hit, most likely.