I’ve been trying out P79 for a while now. One 10mcg spray with light neroli. In social situations where there are women who know me, are single and available, but are not dating me.
What I’ve found is that a majority of such women actively run away from me. Honestly, I’ve had less avoidance when I’ve had major body odor. Based on the other reports, I’d guess that it presents too strong a sexual vibe which makes them uncomfortable. Although this could be observer bias, it does seem to me like after they run away they often express unfocused sexual desire to someone else (e.g. saying to someone “do you think these shoes will get me laid tonight?”)
So I think I’ll be saving this for a long term relationship. Or if anyone wants to buy it off me, send me a PM.
I tried out P79 and Turn Up The Heat at my regular weekly improv class (one other guy and a bunch of women 20-50). They’re used to my regular mix of one drop A314 and one or two sprays Instant Shine, to which I sometimes add a little Instant Openness. This time I added 1 spray of 10mcg P79 and 1 “to go” spray of TUTH 2x. Pretty amazing results.
First, I got the same avoidance I talked about in my previous post: women standing next to me would find and verbalize an excuse to move away from me, at least for the first 15 minutes or so. After that, though, the class took a very sexual and playful tone. Lots of squeals of laughter and lots of double entrendre along with some outright sexual flirting. Everyone having fun (especially the one lesbian in the class). Didn’t seem to have much effect on me or the other guy, but definitely got the women going.
To me, though, the most interesting thing is that it only lasted about an hour, maybe 90 minutes. The class is 3 hours long and all the sexiness and playfulness was gone by the midpoint. I’ve noticed Instant Shine seems to fade after about 90 minutes, too. Is it the “Instant” spray formula? Instant Openness is the only “Instant” that seems to work for more than 2 hours.
I have found that mixing p74 with p79 to take some of the awkwardness away works pretty well. I would not use p79 with too much none because of the possible horny gorilla vibe which could be repelling people.
Let me guess: there was a break after the first half, and when the class re-grouped, it seemed that the effect was “gone.”
I would say that the pheros were still “up and running” after the break but that you got a good 75 minutes of “flow” behavior in the first half of class – people responding without consciously monitoring or checking/restraining their behavior.
Then, during the break, people reflected on the behavior of the first half of class: privately and introspectively, or perhaps even commenting to one another on the unusually sexy vibe in the class. And then they kicked in their “response police.” They felt a little bit out of control, recognized it, and upped the “self control” level.
Just because people have learned to not OVERTLY respond to your pheros, does not mean they are unaffected, or not responding at all.
This has happened to me many times: I meet someone on Monday, get unguarded responses as we work with one another; same pheroset on Tuesday, but the individual has clearly decided to “clamp down”.
If you’re not having a romantic relationship with someone, I suspecct it’d more than likely that you provoke that ‘more control’ kind of response. And some people are very good at controlling / hiding their responses. It’s helpful to remember each person’s “naive response”: how they behaved the first time they encountered you. Because that’s how they ~want~ to respond when they’re with you and your pheros…
Be a patient fella …
Some people will immediately “apparently” control their outward behavior, but over a period of weeks, they will show a change in the ~pattern~ of behavior that expresses their response to you/your pheros.
When you come to the mental space that you know the pheros are active and working, and that it’s not magic, it’s biology, then you can “forget in the moment” and “notice afterwards” .. which many here have touted as the best mode for using pheros, and
I’ve had more experience with P79 now though I haven’t changed my opinion much. I bought the 10mcg/spray concentration and I think it’s just too much.
If any of you guys have a GF who would respond positively to you coming home, grabbing her, and saying “I want you now!”, then I think P79 will make that work better for both of you. Otherwise, it seems to need a lot of balancing out in order for it not to trigger a sort of “I want him but that would be a bad idea” or “I want him but that’s just my hormones talking” avoidance.
I will say this was among the more obviously effective pheromones I’ve tried, even though the effect wasn’t one I wanted.
Hmm. I’ve worn 20+ mcgs of p79 and actually had positive results, though they were relatively minor.
p79 really depends on what you wear it with.
M3turbo suggested p74, that works, try some -nols, to see what p79 does with it. Then compare it with some -none, and you should be able to see p79 better.
