P83 the multi-million variable putative!

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Hey all,

I’ve been out testing different products on their own. I began with P83 since it’s been a royal pain in the ass to figure out.

I’ve varied the dosage from 2.5-12.5mcg.

The effects of the dosage seemed irrelevant compared to several other factors:

1 - The target

Probably the most important factor of all, for example, a girl who you’ve never met is more likely to respond well to P83 than one you’ve known for a long while. It breaks down barriers like a tank and reduces inhibitions and LMR, they become far more flirty and fun. Girls you’ve known for a while and with whom your not romantically linked nor intend to be feel very uncomfortable. They want to do something but know its inappropriate and tend to avoid you as a result. Although this can change depending on the time and place, which neatly brings me to my next point.

2 - Time and place

P83 is awesome for the night scene, a little alcohol and P83 can work wonders on girls you’ve only just met. However, in professional settings it can result in mild flirting and a bit of fun IF the target is someone who is outgoing. If they arent then they’ll feel a little confused and do the avoidance thing as a self-defence mechanism to prevent themselves acting in a manner they arent comfortable with. Women I know as friends tend to act more flirty in situations where it is appropriate but again give the cold shoulder in professional settings.

3 - Age of target

There is definately a age cut off limit for P83. DONT use around 50 plus men/women, they dont like it, they dont like it all!!!

The first two factors need to be taken into a account at the same time which can increase the number of variables:

  • Appropriate place
  • Inappropriate place
  • Knowing the girl already
  • New girl you’ve never met before
  • Outgoing Target
  • Non-outgoing target

All in all its a difficult beast to master, well for me at least. I mean that in the sense that it’s difficult to get a crystal clear handle on the perfect application. It’s pretty simple to get it to work on most occasions but getting that sweet spot everytime is far too dependant on factors outside of my own control.

As for guys, no real response, that said I wasnt watching the mens reactions as much as the womens :wink: . That said, it reminds of -none based products without the male agression, which is what a lot of other users have reported.

I realise I’ve not actually given a fully detailed report on the girls/hits but I guess what I really wanted to do was give out my observations. I’ll report on the actual cases themselves if people really want to hear about it :slight_smile:

Rattle

P83 as a way of further increasing A314's potential gains in Personal Power
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Verry good post man.It is a good resurch on p83.It looks like this one gives you the highschool cool guy vibe from I read.Girls find you attractive, shy girls avoid you and older people are irritated by you.
What was your dose for diese results?Does it have self effects(every mone has)and how does it feel like?

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Lol, that may well be true but I’m a little too old to be a high school cool guys :stuck_out_tongue:. But I agree it does have some properties of the P74 variety, although far more subtle. The main emphasis seems to be I’m single, hot and available, come get me. Without sounding too harsh, I need to spray on someone ugly. See what the effects are, and to determine how important the user is in all of this.

The dosages were:
Day 1 - 2.5
Day 2 - 5.0
Day 3 - 0 (rest day)
Day 4 - 10.0
Day 5 - 12.5

I only have a 2.5mcg spray version, which meant on day 5 I smelt like an alcoholic! But only for about 20 minutes.

Self effects seem pretty similar to what you said, very smooth, cool confidence. I wouldnt say that you could get any woman in the world but you felt like you had a lot of value within yourself.

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such a great post on observations of p83. reppped

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Very interesting observations, Rattlesnake. Nice post! I sometimes wear P83 for a little kick to my attitude without having to wear none.

I’m not shy most of the time, but I tend to avoid flirting at work. With the P83, I do flirt a bit at the office, but nothing outrageous. Whether I know the person doesn’t matter. Just a bit more playfulness, laughter, and eyelash fluttering. Sometimes, under the influence of 83, my judgment is off–regarding who to play with. And I can be pushy, which can be counterproductive.

Ilsa, a pheromone grande dame, posted that she wears P83 daily with Dirty and TAH. I’m 30 and she’s 34. Interesting…

I’ve also noted, and posted about, negative responses from the elderly. More like late 60s and 70+. For me, the 50s have seemed to be pretty okay. It’s almost like having white hair makes people hate P83. I try to avoid interacting with old ppl when I have P83 on, so they don’t have an opening to vent.

I wonder if heavy EST would counteract this? Hmmm.

Kitten

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Are there any “elderly” people, over 50, out there who have actually tested P83 on themselves and /or around other “elderly” people?

I’ve been called alot of things in my life but fortunately elderly is not, yet, one of them!! LOL.

Don’t worry “kids” I’m not offended, just amused!

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I got smiles from several older women in my one trial using P83 over A314. It was just one trial however. Maybe solo it is a problem but combined with some other masculine base it might not turn them off.

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Rattlesnake, great post and I must say that I agree 100% with the following parts based on my own experience with P83.

P83 however gives me a bad headache sometimes and application points tend to itch like hell, but I think that’s just me though.

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Lol. I can’t say I’ve noticed much in the way of super ultra hits that are blatantly obvious, but with a girl, I can usually tell a subtle difference in her actions when I wear p83 vs. when I don’t.

Most are much more touchy-feely. Tater mentioned something about how p83 is sort of a crave activator. I agree with him, especially when it comes to sexuality/sensuality.

Ever seen someone on Ecstasy? Very touchy-feely and very impulsive. When they want something, they want it NOW, and it usually involves personal contact, whether or not it is sexual – although it normally turns sexual.

P83 seems kind of a very subdued version of this (w/o the colors and hallucinations). The effects especially come out in one-on-one conversations with drunk girls. :stuck_out_tongue: One girl was especially touchy feely, and just HAD to keep sniffing my neck and complimenting me (I had p83 w/ an ammo scent + some other pheros… don’t remember which ones, but -none was not in there). Lol… I had never been groped THAT much by a girl in public… :smiley:

This might explain, too, why elderly people don’t like it. Most elderly people aren’t exactly sensual and impulsive, and if they get a whiff of something that says “be sensual and impulsive” they don’t like it.

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Thanks for all the responses guys, 100 plus rep points :smiley:

Cant say I’ve experienced headaches, although when I first applied I was slightly air-headed. Became a bit of a blond (no offence to anyone!). When combined with the first cigerette of the day, I became light headed. Although the effects due to wear off relatively quickly. I’ve said this before but it seems like the sub-conscious part of your mind takes the driving seat. Either that or it induces short-term memory loss!

It’s interesting to see the female perspective. You display the same kind of behaviour as the women who were affected by P83. Although in my opinion the level of display depended entirely on how out-going the target was. Combine it with alcohol and it evens the playing field.

Regarding the older person I find it difficult to gauge, some seem to be unaffected whilst others seem to give off a bad vibe to it. So far, I’ve found it easier to simlpy avoid using P83 around ‘older’ people. I say 50’s plus although thats not a definitive cut off point. I’ve had people around 60ish act more stand-offish than someone in there 70’s. That said I dont really have that much interaction with elderly folk, so I cant really give a in-depth view.

I definately agree with the crave activator, I guess you’d need to spray someone else and stand back and watch. Women around them may end up ‘craving’ other men. It’s hard to notice when your only concentrating on the women your working on.