Some examples of potential problems that P83 may bring with it in a work environment (and in other situations) are pasted in below. Note SteveO was using approximately 75 mcg of P83 applied within a 5-6 hour period when he got his ‘bad’ reaction. On the other hand, Rattlesnake was only using 2.5-12.5 mcg when he was getting the avoidance reactions from girls since as he put it “They want to do something but know its inappropriate and tend to avoid you as a result”. So perhaps a lower dosage is ‘safer’ for use at work - Rattlesnake’s avoidance reactions look to me to be quite a bit less problematic than the Androstenone-like angry reaction that SteveO got…
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-latest-results-of-p83-disturbia-dementia-erotica/5792/15
SteveO (October 1, 2007):
“OK so after a very long extended day at the hospital with my dad and my mom I needed a break. I decided I would leave out of there and go have some coffee for my Saturday night.
Yeah I know how lame it is to be at BuckyStars drinking coffee instead of being out sarging on a Saturday night. Heck I would take sitting drinking coffee with all the other Saturday night rejects than sitting in the freaking hospital. Call it social addiction or withdrawals but I need to go out and sarge or I get sickened at mans plight to entertain using such mundane instruments as the Television.
I was on line for my Vanilla Bean drink when my good friend Davey who’s still in the Navy and probably will be for life (Thanks Billy Joel for the lyrics but I am not saying his real name) comes in and stands in line with me. Somehow I went from being first in line to behind about six people. My pink and sparkly friend who I’ve posted about before is working and she always gives me her employee discount. She also gives me her comp pound of coffee every week. I love that girl!
I have been showing my Navy buddy how to use Mystery Method (http://affiliates.mysterymethod.com/z/28/CD84/) and there’s this girl who is in a Blockbuster Video uniform with her name tag. Even though she is in a uniform she is very nerdy. Lucky me, as P83 always makes nerdy girls seem to be on edge sexual wise around it. I opened her and used a DLV about an old classmate who worked at Blockbuster to get her to open up. Needless to say the conversation went very well.
This girl was amazed after she complimented me on my spectacular sense of humor that find out I do stand-up comedy on Wednesdays. She was totally set on coming to my next gig and made it a point to let me know she would be there. Just then Pink and Sparkly friend yells over counter “Is SteveO flirting with another girl? Doesn’t SteveO have enough girlfriends?” Blockbuster girl gets a little flustered, maybe she thinks Pink and sparkly is my girlfriend and she leaves without her muffin.
I go outside with Navy friend and grab a table. My Vanilla Bean drink is horrible: not blended well, big chunks of ice, very little flavor. I go back in and tell the girl who made it. My friend took the order but other girl made it. She got upset and almost cried. It was weird cause she was like so sad that I didn’t like the drink and then said you’re still going to love me aren’t you? I was like I never loved you to begin with. Considering I only saw this girl like maybe two times before this was very out of place for her to say it. She asked if I wanted another one and I said no. I just wasn’t interested in her and didn’t really want to send her any wrong signal after she had said what she did.
Then youngster employee said she would make me a Caramel Apple Cider on the house. I agreed after some bantering. She is a sexy girl but underage by about 6 months. I have to tell you it was the best drink in the entire BuckyStars world. It’s not on the menu but holly Toledo it was AWESOME!
Youngster employee was so nice and flirty with me, I had to tell her to back off or I would end up in jail. She said I’m worth it and then said but I would never tell anyone. OK a bit too much for SteveO and didn’t want to ruin my reputation as a player, but I do have some scruples. I told her to wait until she was 18 and we’d talk about it then. She said it was a date but she probably couldn’t make it through the night thinking about me.
Blasted P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314), it’s freaking way to affective.
Outside drinking my super delicious Caramel Apple Cider eating my gooey oatmeal raisin cookie, Blockbuster girl comes back to get her muffin she forgot. She was in a rush but said that she wouldn’t have minded at all if I decided to eat her mufffffin. I said maybe when your not in such a rush to get back to work, that I like to take my time when eating a girls mufffffin. She said she would see me Wednesday and we could further our conversation there and to make sure I was hungry.
Navy guy was amazed and thought it all came from TMM. I assured him I had a secret weapon and would mix a batch up for him. He was very intrigued.
Then managers daughter employee came out and asked for help with garbage can. Big country, another friend who had joined us was pulling the bag while Navy was pulling the can. I yelled smack it, smack it harder and managers daughter employee hit me in the shoulder. I was kind of shocked at this as I gave her no reason too. She said she was sorry but I had offended her with my sexual remark!
I asked her what specifically she had taken from smack it (subsequently was totally said about the garbage can being stuck) did she take as sexual and even more so about her?
Side-note: She is not someone I find even remotely attractive. From what I understand from Pink and Sparkly she is super prudish.
Pink and sparkly had come outside for ten minute break and asked managers daughter employee why she hit me. Both my friends who were wrangling the garbage can were surprised too. Everyone agreed that my comments were about the garbage can and had absolutely nothing to do with her. She tried, all to no avail, to continue to blame it on my sexual innuendo directed at her. In fact she wasn’t around for my conversation with any of the other girls. I may be a PUA, but as such I am discreet when I am talking to women.
P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) has some very sexually aggressive undertones that can be mistaken by some. Especially those that you are not interested in still have the tendency, even when no suggestions to substantiate their claims, to validate your sexual desire for them. This can be a negative aspect of the molecule. I will continue to try and buffer this with some other molecules.
Feedback is appreciated.”
My latest results of P83, disturbia, dementia, erotica! - #19 by SteveO (My latest results of P83, disturbia, dementia, erotica! - #19 by SteveO)
SteveO (October 2, 2007):
“…On this particular day of testing I was wearing P83 alone with original spray of 60 mcg about 5-6 hours previous (2 30 mcg sprays full size bottle) with one re-application of about 1/2 spray from 30 mcg full size bottle half hour before BuckyStars. So yes I was wearing P83 alone all day…
I’ve seen this one, when I initially try it deplete itself rather quickly, especially when I mix it with other products. Only sometimes though, and thats the peculiar thing, I can’t quite pin the effects down to a specific time.
This report is based on an entire day with only a small re-application and that application was in my Jeep with the windows down for the ride to BuckyStars and the wind blowing in my face for a good fifteen minutes. There are sometimes when it seems as if it lasts a very lengthy time and other times when I’m like what the heck just happened, why did this just wear out like it did?
I am definitely going to keep more accurate control notes in my journal including temperatures, humidity levels, outside exposure times, and the likes. I can’t seem to find that one constant that makes it stable sometimes. Most of the BuckyStars time was spent outside, in temps around 75 degrees and I’d say inside was about the same…
As far as the agitation side I have noticed apprehension in some instances, but not outright aggression. However, that being said, the managers daughter employee did strike me. I’m not sure if that can be taken in the context of aggression from the P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314), or another theory I have been going over is maybe because I wasn’t paying her any attention she became upset. It really has me thinking about it and why she was so angry over something that didn’t occur.
On the other hand I would definitely 100% say there are sensual undertones to this mix, if not outright sexual. I have posted in numerous threads now that this molecule has a distinctive quality that changes refined, more conservative women into open liberal sexual girls willing to go for it in public without care.”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-the-multi-million-variable-putative/7495/1
Rattlesnake (December 2007):
“ P83 the multi-million variable putative!
Hey all,
I’ve been out testing different products on their own. I began with P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) since it’s been a royal pain in the ass to figure out.
I’ve varied the dosage from 2.5-12.5mcg.
The effects of the dosage seemed irrelevant compared to several other factors:
1 - The target
Probably the most important factor of all, for example, a girl who you’ve never met is more likely to respond well to P83 (Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314) than one you’ve known for a long while. It breaks down barriers like a tank and reduces inhibitions and LMR, they become far more flirty and fun. Girls you’ve known for a while and with whom your not romantically linked nor intend to be feel very uncomfortable. They want to do something but know its inappropriate and tend to avoid you as a result. Although this can change depending on the time and place, which neatly brings me to my next point.
2 - Time and place
P83 is awesome for the night scene, a little alcohol and P83 can work wonders on girls you’ve only just met. However, in professional settings it can result in mild flirting and a bit of fun IF the target is someone who is outgoing. If they arent then they’ll feel a little confused and do the avoidance thing as a self-defence mechanism to prevent themselves acting in a manner they arent comfortable with. Women I know as friends tend to act more flirty in situations where it is appropriate but again give the cold shoulder in professional settings.
3 - Age of target
**There is definately a age cut off limit for P83. DONT use around 50 plus men/women, they dont like it, they dont like it all!!! **
The first two factors need to be taken into a account at the same time which can increase the number of variables:
- Appropriate place
- Inappropriate place
- Knowing the girl already
- New girl you’ve never met before
- Outgoing Target
- Non-outgoing target
All in all its a difficult beast to master, well for me at least. I mean that in the sense that it’s difficult to get a crystal clear handle on the perfect application. It’s pretty simple to get it to work on most occasions but getting that sweet spot everytime is far too dependant on factors outside of my own control.
As for guys, no real response, that said I wasnt watching the mens reactions as much as the womens . That said, it reminds of -none based products without the male agression, which is what a lot of other users have reported.
I realise I’ve not actually given a fully detailed report on the girls/hits but I guess what I really wanted to do was give out my observations. I’ll report on the actual cases themselves if people really want to hear about it
Rattle”