P84 thread: first use report, since so little has been written about it

There is not a lot written about P84. Tacitus described it as, “the good side of caffeine without the bad side of caffeine.” Examine compared it to A314 and gave an example of a woman who became more standoffish but still seemed interested after he applied P84.

I just got some P84. I need to experiment with it a lot more, but since there is so little on it, I’ve decided to begin a P84 thread and describe my first use of the pheromone.

I applied about 20mcg P84 about an hour after trying 10mcg of P91. Sorry for the contamination, but I couldn’t wait to see what would happen. About a half hour later the woman starts ranting about things she is dissatisfied with. She kept telling me not to take it personal – she just had to vent. It seemed like everything was a criticism of me, though. I am not sure why she wanted to deny/deflect the criticism that way. Maybe it was the P91 or maybe it was the P84. Steve has compared P91 to A314 and given good evidence that it increases status and respect. Earlier in the day – with just the P91 – people were not conversant at all. They seemed to avoid small talk. I very much suspect it was the P84 that energized this woman’s rant. The negativity had nothing to do with pheromones – she’s always that way.

Before the P84, I had been feeling kind of slow and relaxed all morning – would have slept longer if I could have. I decided to take a nap about an hour and a half after applying the P84. I couldn’t go to sleep and it became difficult just to lie down. The P84 was definitley energizing me.

I got on the computer to read the news. My eyes kept wanting to scan ahead. It was difficult to focus. I actually started to crave some coffee to help me focus. The P84 seemed – as Tacitus suggested – to be both similar and different from caffeine. It definitley energized, but I don’t know if I’d say it made me alert. Caffeine would have helped me focus on the computer screen; P84 did not. It did keep me awake, though, and I got more done today than I would have without the P84. There was nothing like caffeine jitters.

About four hours later, I noticed I was still unusually energized/driven to get things done. I was a bit annoyed/impatient.

I originally became interested in P84 as a possibility for counter-acting the sedative properties of P86. I don’t know whether it will give me the mental alertness I am looking for or not. I want to be both capable of witty conversation and sensuality. I don’t know if the impatience and irritation I sometimes felt will be disruptive to the P86 effects. I have not yet adequately tested the social reactions I will get from P84. I need to wear it out in public more and see how it feels when I drive my car – an excellent test of alertness.

In testing P84 with P86 I have found that equal amounts of each seem to be about right. If I use more P84 than P86 I start to get these jittery fieelings. They are milder than caffeine jitters and more mental than physical, but still distracting.

Adding P84 to my sensuality mix I find that it dulls the “Shallow Hal”, air-brushed, beautification effect of P86. I confirm that equal amounts of P86 and P84 seem to be about right for appropriate energizing effects. I feel much more ready to act. The mix is definitely less sensuous with the P84. I notice some of the coldness that Diane has complained about from too much P87 and that I have noted with P81. P84 seems to widen my field of vision; I am more attuned to things on the periphery. Adding more EST or P103 did little to erase the flatness imposed by P84.

Warren, have you found P84 to lead to talkativeness? I found myself very quick with words and jokes when wearing approximately 50 mcg. I haven’t tried it much but will finish off my ToGo bottle in the next few weeks.

No, I have not experienced P84 leading to my own talkativeness so far. The rant from the woman in my first post may be an example of that. I have not adequately tested it in social situations yet. Your 50mcg is toward the high end of the range I have used.

I have it on good authority that Diane recently received a goto bottle of P84. Maybe she will be able to enlighten us on that point some time soon…