I’ve recently seen a report that P93 works very well on non-caucasians when used by non-caucasians.
Just one report, but this made me think… Could this be a “racist” pheromone in a sense? One that makes your own race or genotype seem best, and other types less alluring?
Anyone else here seen a sort of “race locking” effect?
I was wondering the same thing..
And the conclusion was..
And that’s where it ends…
is P93 a main ingredient in MX203?
Cause I’m Asian and when I use MX203 I seem to draw in caucasians far more than Asians. It doesn’t repel Asians per say, but the attractive power is not quite there. If I were to rate it’s attracting/turn on w/e you want to call it for caucasians a 10, it would be like a 2 for Asians.
I can try testing ONLY MX203 instead of with Gentleman to see how that goes. Just got in a new bottle of it. =)
I can also try testing P93 only if that works out better.
From what I know, it’s p93, and A-Androstenol, perhaps with a hint of TAK (I don’t remember where I saw it, I’ll look for the post.)
EDIT: Found it. Right here: http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/just-got-my-order-mx203-tac-12232.html#post108570
Either way, the results seemed kind of inconclusive.
It’s been awhile now. More testing has occured.
So aside from Phya, have most people been getting the best results from people of a different race?
i.e., if you’re caucasian, maybe you get better hits from Latin people or Afro American (just a made up example)
if you’re Afro Americans, you get your best hit from blond Caucasians (like Tater does), etc?
Any patterns like that? Or does it seem more like pheromonal roulette?
Anybody adding pheromones to steer things to one race or another, or to all races?
I wonder what it does if you’re of mixed race like 75% of the Hawaiian population? Attract everybody or nobody? I used P93 until my togo ran out and didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary. I guess I should hang with Japanese tourists as they’re the purest bloodline here. Probably need a gallon to start noticing trends.
From the reports I have read, P93 attracts caucasians. Tater said especially blonds. Later he said readheads even more so. There seems to be a small consensus that it works best for noncaucasians, but for caucasians it will also attract other caucasians (more than other races), but it does not make the dramatic difference that it makes for noncaucasians wearing it. Some people have said that it has a slightly off-putting effect on noncaucasians. Others have said it also attracts noncaucasians, but not as much as caucasians. I believe it remains an interesting question whether it works as well on brunette caucasians as it does on blonds and redheads. I have not found any concensus as to whether it is a cultural or biological effect. Some have claimed it works best on rich caucasians. I have never read anyone claiming that it causes caucasians to attract noncaucasians more than other caucasians. I have never read a report claiming that it attracts any race more strongly than caucasians.
To be clear, my first paragraph is a synopsis of what I’ve gotten from others’ reports. Now, for my own experiences… I am caucasian. P93 is not one of my favorite pheromones, but I do wear it sometimes. I wear it when I go to the rich, caucasian part of town. I feel more comfortable there when I wear it. When I wear it to the strip club, I get more attention from the blonds. I usually get less. It is hard to tell blonds from redheads under the lights. Sorry. In my own experience it is neutral to slightly off-putting to noncaucasions. It draws brunette caucasians (especially pale skinned ones) but not as well as blonds and redheads. Tater, at one point, speculated that it was actually blue eyed** girls that were best attracted by it. That might be the case. I think of it as Pleiadian Magic.
As to the cultural vs biological, I am completly undecided. At first I thought it must obviously be biological, but I am no longer so certain. You know that racial slur “honkey”… I was once told that it makes fun of the way we talk. If so (Wikipedia does not concur), understanding that fifth [throat] chakra thing may be the key to grasping the P93 caucasian effects. I am really kind of brain-storming here, but… there seems to be a certain attitude which is more typical of caucasians. I sense that attitude in the “Instant Protestant Ethic” effect sometimes attributed to P93 when folks are not discussing seduction. Instant Honkey Vishuddi Block? No, that would never sell.
Maybe our Southern brothers. But White folk are as diverse as there are stars in the sky. The ones that speak that funny Germanic language in Amsterdam are certainly White as snow but not normally described as honkey folk.
I’m a dark haired, dark eyed, olive skinned Caucasian. I wear P93 quite often at 5 mcg (mainly at work with a mix dominated by A314 ) and have noticed it does seem to bring out more smiles from Blondes and Redheads (as opposed to Brunette Caucasians). I am not sure of this though but it definitely makes blondes and redheads consistently smile and be friendly, at least for short periods of time. Like I’ve said before, P93 seems to promote a ‘task-driven’ vibe where people just don’t feel like much small talk (but when conversations do start there is a nice bonding effect to it minus too much yapping). I love the ‘task-driven’ effect for work but it does make me hate small talk even more (which is already a personality trait I have if you haven’t noticed from my posts on this forum).
I know there was one brown-haired girl in her mid 20s (Caucasian, Aussie of German descent) who definitely didn’t react well to it - she would avoid me more and be ‘quick’ with it on (it might have been a factor in our friendship ending-not that I was especially heartbroken but still; it was weird). Anyway she is very social but isn’t especially gorgeous and I have felt signs of competitiveness and envy at times - am not sure if the P93 was contributing to this by possibly adding even more to A314 's high status effects. I know P93 was the reason why we hardly had a conversation before 4 pm because when it wore off (I really could tell), we would have some cool conversations sometimes (the Beta -Nol from CTTM would begin to dominate the mix and A314 started assuming a slightly less commanding quality).
I noticed another brown-haired Caucasian (glamorous woman) in her late 30s smiling at me more and saying my name more (being aware of my presence) when I have P93 on. Then again she seems happy but very hesitant to stay and chat for a while, even when a friend of hers was talking to me. She seemed like a schoolgirl that time, just kind of nervously moving and skipping around us a few times but not wanting to engage in idle chatter with us even when her friend talked to her (I’m sure it would have been a different story if I had the putative ‘Party in a bottle’ P74 on instead of P93 !). It could’ve been the combination of the seriousness of A314 with the ‘Instant Work Ethic’ thingy going on with P93 .
When buying sandwiches for lunch, I noticed an older Aussie blonde lady (probably in her late 50s) always being super efficient with my order. She would have this weird eye contact as she prepared the sandwitch and gave me my lunch - very businesslike but definitely friendly nonetheless. Just wants to do the transaction as quickly as she can and go onto the next customer. No time for small talk.
As for the few non-caucasian ladies we have at work (a few from the Indian subcontinent and China ranging in ages from mid 20s to mid 40s), I haven’t noticed too much in the way of negatives for P93 but probably not as much ‘smiles out of nowhere’ that I get from Blondes and Redheads.
Its nice wearing it when out in coffee shops or supermarkets as I always have Caucasian girls give me big smiles with it on… Nothing as exciting as denec’s starting love affairs though with it on…
Perhaps people could try going to coffee shops and supermarkets and targeting different races of women to see how they might react to P93 ?
EDIT: Requested deletions.
Ophthalmologists will tell you that when they dilate your pupils, blue eyes dilate faster than dark eyes. Apparently hazel eyes are somewhere in between. If it turns out that that P93 effects corrolate with eye color, will hazel eyed people react more strongly than brown eyed people and less strongly than blue eyed?
Could eye colour correlate with energy flow tendencies in the throat chakra?
Hey Warren,
thanks for your reply and rep…
Also I want to mention that I did have some good male bonding with a Sri Lankan dude in his late teens when wearing P93 and he was clearly positively affected too (I’ve had occassional moments of male bonding with this one, where things said are personally revealing at the extreme at times, with all hair and eye coloured men ranging in ages from late teens to late 30s).
With regard to the effects I’m seeing with P93 , perhaps it is related to the fact that I often wear it with A314 . This combo might scream out ‘focus on work, work, work!’ to others. Perhaps there is something to the ‘Instant Protestant (Work) Ethic’ effect you mentioned before. Perhaps those favouring more easygoing lifestyles (less work-obsessed anyway) like say those of the Pacific Islands or South America may be turned off by P93 for this reason.
Interestingly, Watcher mentioned something kind similar on LS years ago (see below) regarding strait AndrosteRone…
Watcher (July 31, 2003):
“…That is why i mainly use … straight Androsterone [at work]. As it moves the annoying males out of the way who are slackers, high performance males hang around, thus allowing me access to hard working types. Better quality women hang around and lesser types who are just lazy tend to evac due to the high activity levels and it just doesnt gel with their lazy attitude and also the dominant male tends to make them nervous…”
Lol, what a racist phero.
So if Mx203 is rumored to be high in P93 content, then the latest round of testing I’ve done with it should be posted here with a link to my journal entry.
Interesting results, indeed…
Thanks for the great summary, Warren!
From reports, it would almost seem like a good addition to A314, howeve I saw some of what you saw.
Mind you, I haven’t observed it much, but when one of my Caucasian male testers tested in LA I saw some interesting things. The thing that stood our in my head was some aversion, repulsion or perhaps just flat out confusion from non-Caucasian males. There weren’t very many pure Caucasians that he interacted with on test day, so I can’t as much about that.
Anyway, from my own limited observational experience, I’ve ben a little confused when reading that P93 is usually positive with other males or at least neutral. Unless what i saw was merely utter confusion, there may be some negatives that should prevent frivilous or non-directed use. At least when P93 is used alone.
What’s a Pleiadian?
I don’t know a lot about chakras, protestants or Vishuddi… so man, wow, I’m a little confused!
It seems like it might be important to understand what you’re saying, though, so could you translate for me? Pretty please? 
Hmm. I’ve had p93 for quite a while but I’ve never used it much, although I’ve known that its been good with caucasians. What kept me from using it was the smell of the ‘herbal EO’ additive I chose to add to it. I couldn’t stand it at all (hint hint). But I guess I’ll give it a whirl again tomorrow when skool starts back up again -_-;
Does anyone understand Vishudda? After all isn’t that the Etheric chakra? LOL 
Jalandhara Bandha is better than a pheromone any day for working with that one – either that or understanding the visarga (:). – Yeah, I’m a honkey, too. Geez! I haven’t heard that term in so long…
Okay, I’ll add to the mystery: “…With the descent of the knower and process of knowing Bhairava and the power (H and AU), the repose in brahman (S), that is, a state of undifferentiated identity with the ‘knowable object’ occurs. The reality which unifies, which makes of one taste (ekarasa) this triangle characterized of three Emissions, one appeased, one aroused, and one that is both, and is thus made of three reposes – that reality is the supreme Emissional principle, and it is the consciousnes, the Lord Bhairava himself.” – Abhinavagupta
As above, so below… Vishuddha is where spirit (the triune Emmissional principle) takes first form… moves through the etheric into physical manifestation… from … Vishuddha… throat to … Annahata… heart. <3 And likewise it is where desires, transformed by love, take flight into spirit. It is the place where spirit both loses and finds itself in the eternal dance of Creation.
Diane
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Protestant (Work) Ethic
Wikipedia provides a decent overview of Protestant Ethic:
Wikipedia then goes on to describe criticisms of Protestant Ethic, such as non-Protestant and non-Christian cultures which have become materialistic and prosperous. I think this misses the point. I want to discuss a specific attitude toward one’s place in life which starts with the Calvinist concept of predestination:
So if you are one of the few who are to be successful, it is because God odained it would be so – long before you were to accomplish it. Are you one of God’s favored humans destined to succeed or are you a reprobate who will burn in eternal damnation? You don’t want that do you? Better show us you are one destined to recieve God’s grace! It is not good enough to simply do your best, which may not be good enough. No, if your destiny is a positive one, certain things are expected. If it’s 10% more than you are capable of then you’ll give 110%. And that’s all there is to it, Buddy. If you’re not up to it then go to hell. Protestant Ethic. Git 'er done!
Spiritual Energy
Vishuddi is the sanskrit word for the throat chakra. Chakra means wheel or perhaps vortex is a better translation. We are talking about energy vortices. It is difficult to talk about some things without using energy concepts that Western science prefers not to recognize, like chi, prana, kundalini, orgone. Such concepts have a long history in the East. Not so in the West. In his popular Bioenergetics [psychotherapeutic modality] work Alexander Lowen tried to avoid discussing these concepts explicitly, though his coworkers were more frank about seeing auras and manipulating energy. Lowen’s work was an outgrowth of the dicoveries of the German psychoanalyst Wilhelm Reich. Reich escaped from nazi Germany only to die in an American prison as a result of FDA persecution for his work with orgone energy.
Now, I am assuming that Protestant Ethic results in an energy block in the area of the throat. It is the pride – perhaps arrogance – of someone who is up to the hard work. Whiners go to hell. Working though the pain requires choking off impulses to whine or cry as well as cutting off feelings from the body (below the neck). Tension in the neck inhibits energy flow from below as well as verbalizations. One’s tone of voice is affected. Ever try speaking Ebonics with a British accent? Descendants of slaves are more likely to see hard work as the hallmark of exploitation than as a stairway to heaven. People whose forebears were enslaved, defeated or colonized might have an aversion to P93 Instant Honkey Vishuddi Block or the L.A. version, Instant Anglo Attitude. On the other hand, if you want someone on your team who is going to pull his own weight or die trying, you may take great relief in hearing that P93 ring in his voice.
Neurolinguistic Programming
In striclty NLP terms we know that different sensory modalities are associated with different tonal shifts. Visual is softer. Auditory is more shrill, tense. Kinesthetic is deeper. The P93 ring is a combination of Auditory and Visual with very little Kinesthetic. Sometimes the lack of Kino can even create an effeminate (castrated) quality as the body is cut off from the intellect. The voice of guilt (auditory) overrides both visual temptations and shame (visual). Remember the iconic movie scene with the British Headmaster caning the errant pupil’s bare bum in front of the class. Why doesn’t he run away? The voice (auditory) of authority overrides both the shame (visual - seeing classmates eyes on him) and the opportunity to escape (visually seeing escape routes). Obviously, the Kinesthic is completely subordinated as he learns to take the pain and control himself. Submodality analysis may go further in describing the P93 voice tonality – but that’s all I’ve got today.
Given the diminished kinesthetics, I doubt that this aspect of P93 effects would be very sensual. Given that energy flow to the head is blocked, I doubt that it would be very spiritual except in a Calvanistic sense of the term. It would, however, make one appear attractive as a good team player who pulls his own weight and respects authority. It may enhance one’s status in so far as he appears to be part of the (once) dominant culture and is clearly not the image of a deadbeat or moral reprobate.
Wow! Definitely the Muladhara Bandha for you! Ma hed jest 'bout esploded! Heh!
*Edit - seriously, though… NLP is powerful stuff.
Diane
I don’t know if Mother Nature actively reads the forum or not, but herbs are herbs, man.
Seriously, though, we could also maybe offer something more acceptable like sandalwood. The default one we have has the most psychoactive properties w/o being too intense smelling, that’s why we offer it. It’s the one most like a pheromone itself. It seems that the most psychoactive ones always come with a stronger odor.
Holy smokes, Warren! I think you just made a complete microcosm of all life, the universe and everything, right in your little post!
It’s going to take me awhile to fully “get it” all, but thanks!!
Now where’s Tacitus and PherQuirk when you need 'em, so we can get some more cross-genius pollination going on?