I am interested in ordering this putative next. It seems interesting. It is in Mx301 that I sometimes use. However, I read in many threads that it makes women think of you as GAY in somewhat high doses. In contrast, some guys say that it is a caucasian magic mone. I am wondering if p93 is similar to MX297. Girls become really close and friendly with you, because they feel some ‘femine,’ gayish vibe about you, and they don’t feel threatened and don’t mind letting their guards down and becoming very “CLOSE” to you. Also, WHITE girls are more gay-friendly and social with gays than other races. Asians and Latinas don’t want to deal with homosexuals, for most part. This might have caused some users to think of this putative as a caucasian attractant. In short, white girls don’t mind being close to gay guys, but other races do not want associate with them.
However, I don’t think white girls would have SEX with you, no matter how much you “attracted” them… Also, maybe, using p93 might put you in that DREADED friend-zone… What y’all think?
I definitely am not getting the gay or friendzone vibe from MX301…
However, I got some nasty self-effects I did not like using it solo, so I stay away.
Mx301 doesn’t have that much p93. At high does, some people - steve being the main man - mentioned that it makes them appear GAY… Plus Mx301 got 1:1 — enone:83 ratio… even MX297 can turn SEXUAL, if you add like 2 to 3 TUTH. -enone can make a big difference. I think going p93 without -enone or a-none could be a big mistake. Wait till what Steve says though…
I used to routinely wear Instant Gentleman with P93 and TUTH and trust me, I got feminine attention and didn’t appear to be giving off any sort of gay vibe. Even at higher P93 doses. I must just be the John Wayne type. I LOVED that combination for attraction.
I have it in there because on light levels it adds comfort and attraction. However in my initial studies I discovered that gay vibe occurs with high-none mixed with high p93. That’s why its still in MX301, but in low dosages. Should be fine just go about it as any molecule - with a clean slate.
It ROCKS with Instant Gentleman. Seriously, until I’d used all of my Akuto scented Instant Gentleman I would wear it with that and it reminded me a bit of MX297 which is another product I’d never gotten a sense from women as having a gay vibe. I used to wear a lot of MX297, also.
It happened on two separate occassions, both times using 20mcgs. Once was with IG and once by itself. I just felt very worn down and moody. Might have been having off days, but I don’t really want to try it again.
I am totally convinced that the gay genotype has unique pheromone signatures… at least in the case of lesbians and bisexual women… in the several cases where I’ve had sex with avowed bisexuals (4 different women total) there was an unmistakable, psychologically distinct “strange energy” going on at the core-self, preconscious perception level… in 2 of the 4 four cases it wasn’t overtly problematic, however there was a hard to pinpoint sense of disconnect that was linked to body odor.. a kind of heavy out of place sweat note… in one case it was so interestingly blended with female-estrogenic notes (and I’d wafted the room with an very estrogen laden spritz beforhand) that it was Ok… but a bit unfamiliar… I always had a clear place in my deep limbic mind that was taking note and sending up preverbal commentary though…
Since learning that P88 is just a corrupted version of P93 I have been doing a lot of work with P93 trying to reverse engineer the P88 effects. I have come to the conclusion that adding P90, P87 and P81 to P93 is central to the solution. It creates a raw, lustful sexuality, which is both addictive and mind warping. IH, TAA and P75 help to socialize it.
I was wearing the above mentioned pheromones with A314 at a strip club. I want to further beautify my minimally socialized lust mix. I had brought a togo with P86, P83, P82 and P91. After a time, I sprayed this combination under my shirt to see how circumstances might shift as a result. As I completed the procedure, a tall blond dancer walks past. She acknowledges my presence with a mechanical “hello” to me, the customer, without breaking her stride. About a step and half past me, she stops dead in her tracks. A cloud of pheromones, which I’d just sprayed, have wafted into her path. She turns around abruptly, walks back, leans over and kisses me to begin a conversation. All I was doing was just sitting there minding my own business.
So, in conclusion, I think P51Mustang may be right. P86 and P83 along with some P75 just might work okay with P93! I also suspect that P90 removes the gay vibe from P93. That hypothesis needs to be tested by somebody who seriously experiences the P93 gay vibe. In my experience, P93 and androstenone do not work well together. They seem to dull each other’s effects.
I wish I had those putatives I woulda liked to try it. I might pick some up next paycheck. What dosage/spray did you get for those? Should I just stick to the standard starting point of 2.5mcg/spray
Goddamit you people telling me things works always makes want to revisit stuff I was unsuccessful with. P93, I’m coming back at you tomorrow, you better not piss me off again.
I’m thinking
20mcgs P93
2.5 P75
2 sprays shine 2x
Looking back I was pretty unhappy with stuff both times I tried it, maybe it just amplified my mood.
Thanks!