Your reasons for avoiding -none are similar to my own. I’d say I’ve had pretty good success without using -none so far. Er..sorry, there’s one exception, I put up with the -none in A314 because it’s so well balanced, but everything else is -none free.
I love Instant Honesty myself, and I’ll say that a strong emotional connection is very necessary. I don’t know if you prefer Instant Openness over Instant Honesty, but from the sound of it, you might like IH more.
If you check some of my journal posts my mixes with openness get low ratings. I’ve had no luck with instant openness. Tisha thinks one spray from the 2x bottle i have seems to be too strong. The reactions i get are semi-negative but they do similar things as to what they are stated for.
I noticed that people i talk to directly seem more quiet. Definitely not more open.
The people that are in proximity talk WAY louder and WAY more.
New report with 40mcg of P74 coming soon. may have found a new girl :].
Products Used: P74
Hit Quality: P74 (40mcg) - Social: 10, Sexual: 10
Wow. I am being awed once again by the mighty P74. I just started taking an anti depressant so i’m in a better all around mood. I get a call last night to meet up with some friends at the hookah bar. I said OK since i needed to kill some time anyway. I applied 20mcg of P74 to my wrists, 5 to my chest, and 15 to my neck and hair.
When i showed up i immediately started talking to the owner to boost social status. The girls in our group were yelling james, james, james so that helped boost it as well. I was already getting DIHL from people who don’t know me. My group consisted of 2 black girls, 4 white girls, and 2 white guys. We all made conversation and caught up. I knew everyone but the 2 guys. I got girl K who was dancing to come to my direction. She gave me a mini lap dance. It made my target come over and talk to me.
Everyone became very loud and began to make fun jokes and laugh at them. It was a great time. Everyone left except me and 2 of the white girls. 2 guys with no game came over. I greeted them then went back to talking to my girls. This is where it gets good. Girl on my left, Target, says “james, i want to be your girlfriend.” Haha that came out of absolutely no where. She has said stuff like this before joking but this was more serious (she was sitting in my lap with her back on the couch to my left). I said, “Ok you can be my girlfriend for the night and we will see how that goes.” She kisses me on the lips (peck). I start talking with them both while slightly giving target less attention.
Target moves my ring from my middle finger to my ring finger so we can be
married. Then girl2 moves my ring on my right hand to targets ring finger to seal the deal.
I pull out my usual i need 2 wives routine. It’s simple and goes like this. Thats cool but i need two wives though [pause], one to do the housework and one to do the bedwork 
. If the girls are into you they will volenteer who will be which. In my case, girl2 goes: I’ll be the hoe, and target goes: and i’ll clean the house and kitchen. hahaha… I suggest: Well we can take girl2s skills and move them into the kitchen 
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Another variation (this has been field tested on girls from wheaton christian college and worked exactly like above with the sexual tones turned down). Instead of saying you need one for the bedroom and one for the cleaning you say, i need a housewife and a wife that will make the money. The girls at wheaton volunteered. Please field test this routine. You need to have good rapport to pull this off.
Target gives me a little dance and everyone in the room is watching because target is a fox. We make small talk untill we leave. Target txts me 30 min later, here is our convo:
Target: I miss u baby haha
Me: mmm i miss you too
Target: U make a cute boyfriend for the night
Me: Yeahhh we are pretty gorgeous together. you did alright impressin me tonight
Target: Alright? Pssh u aint seen nothin. Haha
Me: what would u do if i said id give u another chance?
Target: Give me another chance. How bout i give u another chance.
Me: how bout we dicuss this tomorrow dear. love ya
Target: Night boy
She told me she loved me repeatedly at the hookah bar. I’ve also known her since 6th grade so its straight for me to say that. I cut the convo off early cause i was at my ex girls house and she is in town from Canada.
Here is a link to Targets picture. If you cant view it then PM me and i’ll send you one. EDIT: Picture removed
EDIT:
I also forgot to mention after the hookah bar i went to my Ex girlfriends house who is visiting to canada. We go frisky for a bit and the she rested her head by my neck and said i smelled REALLY good. Its weird cause she always says i smell bad when i wear pheros.
Update with target. Kept regular conversation. She has been out of town for a bit but we are planning to see each other again soon.
Today i used a little mix that involved -none, p79, p83, and TAA. The girl i was with calls me her boyfriend and she was acting VERY out going and over the top. I sprayed the pheros on 15 seconds before she came upstairs and i could definitely see the effects (and see them wear off after an hour or 2).
Also at a thai restaurant we went too, an older thai waitress i know very well told us lots of drinking stories and such which is very out of character for her.
MK some updates. I spent the night with the girl from 2 posts ago (the one who may be my new girl) but we didn’t do anything because she had gotten sick. However we did build some comfort and talked for about an hour in my bed.
The girl who is calling me her boyfriend is being 100% serious and i have been mostly ignoring her since i told her when we first started seeing each other i didn’t want a relationship only friendship and the occasional sexual encounter. Pheromones have given me the added boost to get these things done.
hi iamstretchypanda - do you have any new insights with the icm.b mix?
i am testing it like crazy because it gives such good results.
Just wore it to a club (4 sprays) and i come to the conclusion that without none it results in less eye contact as let’s say MX203 (in a club environment).
Combined with 1 spray tuth it gets better and 2 tuth is optimum for me - with 3 tuth i mainly attracted women 40+ which is not my target range (but one 18yo sweet black girl asked me to f**k her immediately 
- i had a hard time to resist - i am not even sure if she was 18).
I don’t have TAC to mix the icm.a and wonder if it gets even better results as icm.b + none / if i can go up with the none-level for the younger ones without having the old ladys problem.
I also think about using it with 2 tuth and amped up P83 - i want the girls to go completely crazy. I think iois from ~30 girls a night is not enough - i want them all
curious about you answer…
magnum
Are you still interested in a response to this post. Sorry for taking so long to see get back to you guys i took a much needed lonngggg break
Welcome back!!!
So how did it go with your target? 
Great question… we spent the night a few times since then but no cigar if you know what i mean 
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Currently though I am in a very interesting situation.
New target, HBtiny, and I really hit it off last week. I have been friends with her since the summer of this year; however, she got a boyfriend that felt threatened by me and instructed her not to communicate with me at all… what a compliment 
. They broke up about a month ago and we have been catching up.
Tuesday we had a couple hour long skype session with lots of flirting and such. Thursday I drove an hour to visit my best friend at his college and to see her. I spent the night at her place Thursday night phero free. We have awesome chemistry i might add. ! What an awesome girl. We did the tango if you know what i mean !
That night she told me she didnt shave her legs on purpose because she knew what she wanted to do but didnt want to rush into it. I certainly didn’t pressure her into it (would never do something like that, plus i think i want to date this girl exclusively).
I spent the night at her house again the next night; however, i added in a spray of TUTH to the wrists. Before the spray she was being very social with me, after she became more lovey. By lovey i mean more touchy feely, kissy (small pecks), and snuggly. I think she wanted to go farther but maybe felt bad about the night before? I noticed she didn’t shave again.
The next night i partied with a group of 5 friends. I would say there were 20+ strangers there. Me and my wing went in with 1 spray of TUTH to the chest. Very interesting results. At first we received alot of negative hits. This is strange for us. Most people seemed courteous but avoided us; however, i don’t think this affected our social proof (perceived perception of our group).
This all changed after I left, called a couple of my HB friends in town, and showed back up. When we came back 30 min later another 25 strangers had shown up. Wing had already isolated target and been talking to her. This left me and 4 HB in a group of 40ish people. I had them take pictures of us (with flash) and do various activities thatt cause a scene. I noticed the general vibe i felt with the room was like normal now; however, it escalated at a quicker pace. Example: Girl walks up, opens, and chats with us (normal); however, we are kino escalating and kissing at a MUCH faster rate.
I think that social proofing is very important for unbuffered TUTH especially at the age of 19.
I am not sure what to think of HBtiny but she is awesome so expect to hear more about her as i see her (probably 2 weeks from now)
I am going to see mystery at a mega conference in chicago on nov 13th… Would anyone be interested in hearing about this?
Is anyone else going to this?
Yeah, let us know how it goes!
Haha this was so long ago. I went to the conference. Worst waste of 800 bucks ever. The ‘mega’-conference was 3 instructors no one has heard of, lovedrop, and 25 students. All the people around me paid less. Not a great experience.
By the way I ended up seeing HBtiny from the earlier posts. She responded extremely strongly to -none.
Anyways I was screwing around last night and sprayed on quite a few sprays.
Products Used: P93 5mg, P74 5mg (roughly 2ish sprays), P83 5mg, Beta nol 5mg,
Hit Quality: ? Social, 10 Sexual
Its been awhile so I may be a little out of touch but my girl had been acting pretty distant all day so I decided I’d try out a variation of stevo’s ICM B mix from forever ago. Wish I had more P74.
So I applied the above mixture with my cologne and cleaned up. Within 10 seconds of being downstairs she had me pinned against the wall in my kitchen clawing at my back. May be the strongest sexual hit I’ve had.
I reapplied this mix again the next day with similar results. My girl seemed to be more present with me. Like we were more in tune with each other than normal.
I had a great hit yesterday with 1 drop of A314 and 1 spray of shine 2x. A314 was applied to the jawline and the shine was sprayed to the back of the hair/hairline.
I was talking to a gentleman that I had met once previously at a halloween party. As I was chatting with him he complimented me on my presence and said that I carried a very nice vibe about me. He said it was hard to explain, because even if I was being quiet or generally not ‘in the action,’ people still seemed to enjoy me being there. I have grown very fond of this combo over the years and definitely recommend it
Oh and I received a free sample of TAC with my last order. I tested it in the bedroom and would highly recommend applying it before sex. I applied 1 spray from the to-go bottle to the right side of my neck. It didn’t just highten the climax, but the entire experience itself. I believe it enhanced the experience for both of us, but it certainly did for her. Who knows many I just had a better experience because she had a better experience.
So anyways, during the course of action I grabbed the back of her neck and buried her face on my neck at the application point. She noticeably reacted with her first breath of the mones. I mean it was the kind of hit that you can’t even deny as the hit intensified if her head was on the side of the application point versus being on the other side. So raw. Has anyone had this kind of experience with TAC where the hit during sex noticeably changed as your partner came closer to the application point??