Month use of pheros: what worked and what didn't..

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Okay, so it’s been about a month or so since I joined this forum and started to use pheros. Before I used pheros, I was bit reserved (but not shy) and a bit anti-social or hard to reach. While using pheros, I noticed some changes within me: I was able to easily initiate conversations, feel more confident, become a center of conversations, etc. I noticed some various results with the pheros in my arsenal both good and bad.

Instant Shine: My favorite and still gives me that “high” when I use it. 2 sprays on a daily basis. I tested enough to see the other’s reactions. With this product alone I had more interactions with others and as the product description says, it make others feel good around you. I didn’t see a frown on anyone’s face when I was wearing this and approached them. I’ve been invited to more social gatherings and people tend to enjoy the fact that I’m just there. During one of the weeks, I unintentionally did not use this product and I sensed some moody-ness at my workplace. I re-applied the following week and I started to notice some changes. Feeling kinda guilty using those around me as a test subject :smiley:

Ammunition: Most people in this forum agree, this is one of the best stand alone product. Two spray from To-Go bottle tends to do well for me and I received a lot of positive results: more eye-contact from girls outside of work and more physical contact at work. Is it just me or the older girls tend to recongize my phero signature more easily than the younger ones? I usually interact with those in early 20’s to mid 20’s (21-27), but females towards mid 20 tend to respond well to my use of Ammo than those in early 20’s. Basically the reactions from using -none based product was split between ages in my case, but I still like using this one.

Instant Openness: Great product for breaking the ice or if you want to interact with those you want to talk to, but they are too shy or anti-social. 1-2 sprays does the trick. When I apply Instant Openness, talkative ones tend to talk more and those that are not try to open up to me or force themselves to interact with me (one girl I met, not a very talkative type, tried to maintain the conversation with her tiny voice. cute). Without Instant Openness, non-talkative one’s tend to keep their mouth shut and do not try to initiate any conversations (I tested four different times during the two week period on same individuals). There is a DOWNSIDE to this product: if you don’t want that annoying-talkative individual to annoy you any further, don’t use this product while you’re in that person’s presence.

Instant Female Magic: It was better than I expected. 1-2 sprays are good for me. A lot of positive reactions from the females that I interact with on a daily basis. Even when they are having a really bad day, PMS, etc. they are able to throw a smile or giggle in front of me as soon as I approach them while wearing this product. It doesn’t depress me much, but I did notice this effect from some other males that I interact with, especially those with African heritage.

A314: Didn’t work as I hoped. Two drops along the jawline. Not much of self-effect or much difference in reactions from others. Suppose to give me that superstar or superiority persona, but witnessed some opposite results when using this product (disrespect or completely ignoring what I had to say). Maybe it doesn’t vibe well with my persona; I look very young compared to my age, and not bad looking as others say. Should I up my doses?

Turn Up the Heat: Least favorite product in my aresenal :frowning:. I’ve used in six different occasions varying from 1 to 4 sprays. 4 sprays was definately a no-no; females back away from you and males get pissed at you. One time this co-worker/friend got really annoyed with my presence and ridiculed everything that came out of my mouth. Even one spray didn’t do well for me; during work (yes, I shouldn’t have), this girl who has shown me various IOI’s constantly kept her distance away from me until the effect wore off and when I countered it with other friendly products.

Others:

Instant Honesty: Suppose to work really well during the intimate setting, but I wasn’t able to be in one yet. I’m also afraid of the self-effect as I witnessed in one of my testings. I guess it did work.

MX230: Seems to me this is somewhat a variation of Instant Honesty. Only used it twice, both two sprays and did not used it alone (did not use with Instant Honesty). I would like to confirm my results once more people have used it.

Chemical Romance (MX 148 - 152): Still needs more testing, but generally I got some good results. Will post more once I get more positive reactions.

P74 and P79: Just received it yesterday. P74 tends to make me chatty, but humerous. Things came out of my mouth more easier and I was able to easily please those that were around me. P79 seems like a double-edge sword to me since it suppose to amplify what others are feeling at that point. I haven’t had a chance to use it, but will post more as I test this week.

ONE INTERESTING FACT:
This female at my work place and in her early 20s doesn’t seem to be effected by my phero signatures. I initiated many conversations and used many different friendly combos, but nothing really changed. Can it be that she is one of those that are not effected by pheros?

Thank you for reading! And feedbacks are always welcome!

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Thats interesting, I hear you say Turn up the heat didnt work very well, have you tried buffering it with other pheromones? Are these just experiments using the pheros in isolation or have you been using mixes of them? What combinations do you think work best?

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im kinda new to pheros as well and a314 has not worked for me either. ive heard suggestions that its not a good stand alone product though and i have not really tried a314 with other products so maybe u could try that? or up the dosage,but as i say im new too and i think i need to experiemen with a314 before i can really give any solid advice

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Welcome, and great report. You have v good observational skills - it took me a month to notice pheromones had any effect at all :wink:

pheromones as a tool for personal growth?

Yes - older girls have more experience at interpreting the feelings your signature produces in them and aren’t afraid to go for what they want. Sense of smell declines with age so you may find you can get away with/need higher doses when interacting with women in their 30s and above.

Yes - I have noticed this reaction from intermediate status guys and/or guys who are very insecure or focused on maintaining their perceived status. Inexplicably to them, they sense you as a threat and don’t like it one bit. Don’t wear this mix if you want to make friends in the ‘pickup’ community :wink: (that includes a bunch of guys who think being the alpha male is the most important thing in the world). Some less secure friends of mine start subtly putting me down in front of other people when I wear too much A314.

I have never had this reaction from genuinely all-round successful guys.

Try wearing less, not more! Two is already a lot for a young guy. Maybe throttle back to half a drop for now. When you find a safe level you can start to slowly over time increase the dose a little. You will need to work on becoming congruent with this new high status persona. A314 is a tool to help you grow - not something that you can get the most of by just apply and go. I almost think you should have to go on a training course before androtics will sell it to one. You may find that if you acquire greater status whether that is via a job, social popularity or finding an attractive girlfriend some people will feel threatened by this and you may have to choose between continuing to grow as a person and keeping the same friends. Sad that it should be that way.

Behaviour and whats going on inside her head are different things… it may be she is just v good at controlling her reactions.

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I personally find that the younger the females, the less predictable the results. Like John Gray has said, ‘Men are from Mars, women are from Venus.’ However, I would like to add that late teens and early 20 somethings are from a different galaxy altogether.

Androstenol seems to be the only exception to this though. It opens the conversation floodgate fairly consistently.

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PheroQuirk!

Thank you for the great input. For you first point, I wanted to be more approachable and be more proactive. In the process of doing so I found Androtics products and it sort of helped me to achieve what I wanted. I did my part and pheros just helped me along the way.

With pheros, I had some interesting experiences. Some females that I normally interact with who rarely keep the conversation going with other males and making no physical contacts, act quite differently when I’m around. I’ve been on various professional settings and this is the first time any female co-workers actually try to go out of their way to be close to me, make physical contacts, engage in “professional flirting,” etc. Each time it happens it makes me wonder what would happen if we were in a different setting, like clubs?

I normally use A314 at my workplace and have yet to try out in other gatherings like clubs. I’ve never thought of the way that you laid out, but it seems to make sense since I’m in a competitive environment and surrounded by lot of males who feel proud of themselves for being right. I’ve tested 1 to 3 drops, but no noticeable difference were detected. A314 was mostly used in combination with other pheros: IS, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, and/or Instant Female Magic. I thought that I had to up the dosage since I’m Asian and as Gegogi said, he’s optimum was 4-6 drops. I will try half drop for about a week as you suggested.

As for the final point, I come to remember that the girl isn’t completely unaffected by pheros. I noticed her brightening up when I was wearing Instant Female Magic, but all others didn’t seem to work which confuses to this point :confused:.

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I find it strange that you’re using turn up the heat at work. It’s not the ideal thing to do I think. Especially if it’s not being buffered.

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The results that I posted is general: all products were tested in isolation and in combos in 3 different occassions for each. TUTH just didn’t work regardless of what I did. I used it with in following mixes (as far as I can remember):

4 sprays of TUTH throughout the day (1 spray per 2-3 hour increment)
2 sprays of Instant Openness
3 sprays of Instant Shine

I was mostly outside with this mix and annoyed a lot of males in the vicinity.

1 spray of TUTH
2 drops of A314
2 sprays of Instant Openness
1 spray of Instant Female Magic

I shouldn’t have used it during workdays, but one of the posters in the forum stated that he got some wonderful results with just 1 spray at work. Tried during one of the workdays last week. Not good.

2 sprays of TUTH in isolation when I was visiting one of my female friends’ house for casual conversation. Things started to go sour after few minutes and she kept her distance away from me (I’ve known her for 2 years).

My favorite mix thus far:

2 sprays of AMMO from a To-Go
2-3 sprays of IS
2 sprays of Instant Openness
1-2 sprays of Instant Female Magic (1 is preferred to not depress some of my male friends)

With this mix sometimes I add 1-2 sprays of Chemical Romance pack; my favorite thus far is MX149 since it tends to work well on those females in early 20’s.

I will try P74 and P79 with this mix and see what happens.

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I’m not sure but perhaps it was a guy who worked with just women.
Unbuffered -none and Turn up the heat is worse with men, at work, I guess.

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I can confirm this! Seeing as I have done extensive testing with MX230. (Both with the addition of instant honesty and without.)

It’s like a social attractant pheromone that brings you closer (socially) with other people regardless of how well you know them.

:cool: MX230 – reputable pheromone (CHECK!)

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So my hunch was right. When I used it the first time, two sprays to each side of neck, I saw more people open up to me. What I mean by open up is not just the quantity of the dialogue, but the quality. For instance, one time when I used MX230 alone this one guy I only knew for couple months started to spill some of his most intimate secrets (I won’t go into too much details). I mean these are some things that I don’t normally hear from my best friends even when they are drunk. Other time was when I was outside, so I wasn’t able to detect much of reactions, but this girl suddenly came out of no where, slapped me on my back and making other gestures as if I was her long time friend. IMO, if MX230 is a variant of Instant Honesty, then its bit more potent (I’ve once used 4 sprays of Instant Honesty and barely got any truth out of anyone). More testing is needed.