First days with A314, Instant Shine and Instant Openness: no clear reactions yet

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Just got my first batch of stuff today (finally!) and tried it out in my regular routine day.

2 drops A314 on my wrists (2 drops on one wrist, then rubbed wrists together)
2 sprays Instant Shine (one on each wrist)
1 spray Instant Openness (on my neck)

I gotta say I don’t like the way the Instant Openness smells, so I feel forced to cover it up with cologne, and not my usual colognes either since they seem to be a bad match. Ended up using Grey Flannel. The others smell a bit strong, too, and it makes me a little self-conscious.

The Instant Openness might have worked as I intended, which was to make me a bit more talkative, but it’s hard to say. I can be talkative when I set that intention and I didn’t seem out of the ordinary.

I didn’t notice any effect from the A314 or IS. I did feel unusally alert to how people were treating me and what was going on in my environment, but I think that was more me wondering how the pheros worked more than the pheros themselves.

OK, so that was just day one. I’ll try again. If anyone thinks I did something wrong, please let me know how I can improve my results.

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Sorta same day as i had first day u r to focused on the pheros doin all the work u would well i did was sit there and just look. After a while u prob will notice a few things

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Hey Sage, your first day actually sounds great!

I mean, I understand, not everyone “gets it” on the first day. Thumb the sweat off your nose and go at it another day. :)The cool part about these pheros is that… even though YOU might not be noticing at first, other people are reacting!

It’s just a matter of time before you notice, too. :slight_smile:

In time, you’ll become vastly more aware of people’s body language, and their overall subtle ways of communicating with you. You’ll get a really really good “feel” for it. It’s said that men aren’t wired to really NOTICE social effects (which is a phenomenon many jokingy refer to as MPB), but just like a muscle, these skills can be worked on til they’re ripped!

Stick these markers in the back of your mind, next time you’re around someone.

Where are their shoulders and spine facing? Toward me?
How much eye contact are they making with me? 70% 20%?
What is their movement like? Swaying? fidgeting?
Where are their hands? Do they seem to be pointing at something? Are their hands on their hips, subconsciously pointing my awareness to their crotch? Are their arms folded? Are their hands facing me in surrender?

I provided those questions just to get you started. I know you;ll come up with more that will fit your personal environment much better. When you become more observant of peoples’ behavior, do let us all know about it! I’m ALWAYS up for hearing about different peoples’ interpretations of body language! It’s how we learn from each other. :slight_smile::slight_smile:

Keep at it, kiddo. If you have any ???s, feel free to give me a call.

Miracle in the bottle!
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OK, another day, another nothing. Today I had a business meeting with a couple of women, one (about my age) who has known me in a business/social setting for several years and the other (at least 10 years younger) who has met me several times but doesn’t know me so well. I put on 2 drops of A314 and 2.5 sprays of IS on my wrists 45 minutes before the meeting to see if I would notice anything different in them or they in me. Because of how we ended up sitting, I was able to use the drink in my hand to keep my wrist pretty close to the younger woman’s nose. Despite the meeting for going almost an hour, I didn’t see any change in their attitude or affect toward me (compared to the last few times I was with them), any more (or less) eye contact or leaning in or posturing toward me. They didn’t make any comments of any kind that I could interpret as them saying they thought I was in any way different than usual. In other words, seemed like no effect.

Is it maybe because I’m over 40 and they’re over 30? Do I need to be using even more of this stuff? I’m already a tiny bit embarassed about how strong this smells…

By way of background, I’ll say that am nearly expert at calm, open, and honest, so I get those all the time without pheros (why I didn’t get instant honesty). I got A314 because I got a lot of women thinking of me as a teddy bear and I wanted to project more strength. I got IS because I’m pretty low energy sometimes and intense other times and I didn’t wanted to be more inviting and exciting. (I also got Instant Openness, but that was mainly to make ME more talkative.)

Suggestions anyone?

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I don’t think I can speak to whether or not the pheros are doing their job or not – but from a strictly ‘sarging’ frame – I don’t think bathing in any particular mix would do much of anything if the social dynamic with these women is already established. If you’re a “friend” now – you’d have to really, really work to undo that mindset.

It’s not that easy to get a do-over inside a woman’s head. If it were, the divorce rate would be about half what it is now … physically, the left and right hemisphere have at least twice the connective tissue we do (hence the “intuition” and “feelings” that we lack.

If I were you – I’d use them as ‘social proof’ when you go out – or do something dramatic to change the personal dynamic. Since this is business – even if they did have a reaction to the pheros, I doubt they’d let you know it.

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Excellent analogy dma!

I noticed that you said

You say in your first post

See that’s the real kicker right there. You might think it smells to you, but the smell is so much different to a woman. It obviously didn’t smell bad to her or she would have moved away from you, or asked you to move your arm.

You also have to understand that A314 does put out that vibe of powerful James Bond type. You can’t just wear a pheromone and expect to come across as the old Bondster himself, you have to be congruent with the pheromone or you could trigger an OD in the affected person. You say that women think of you as a “big teddy bear.” The pheromone A314 could be working against who you naturally are. Bond was never seen as a Teddy Bear; even during sex the man was too COOL.

I would try your mix of Instant Openness and Shine first for a few days, then add just a tiny bit of A314 to the mix and change your attitude from teddy bear to Bond. As you progress your attitude to one that is more congruent to the pheromone signature you will get more results.

Think about it this was: would you believe Joey from friends as the next James Bond. Nope, didn’t think so.

Keep us posted.

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from what i gather, the older the targets, the more pheromone needed to take effect. ive heard of some people using as much as 8 shots of shine. as for 314 id try 3 or 4 drops if i were you.

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My co-workers are now adapted to my A314 + Spaceland combination. When I first began working with them, their responses were dramatic. Six weeks later, the same work mix does not elicit a noticeable response – from them.

But today I went out to a diner for lunch; a new waitress there with DIHL took the opportunity to tell me about when she took the ACT test; and about graduating from high school a couple of years early; and how her Eng. Lit. teacher gave her easy make up tests because she’d read all of Willie the Shakes – after all, her teachers were the parents of her friends.

And then she took possession of herself, and realized she’d talked me through a third of my lunch. And she was having difficulty believing what she’d just done. No game from me at all, except that I greeted one of the other waitresses with “Heya, Beauty, how are you today?”

Without hesitation – my hypothesis is that pheros affect strangers, people without preconceived notions of us, most directly and visibly. The element of surprise helps to elicit the most unguarded responses. Family members and people who’ve known us a long time may respond profoundly, but the response may be very subtle – and I’d say it’s also very likely that they won’t become conscious of the change unless they’re open to a different concept of the person before them.

Don’t quit just yet …

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Well, I wasn’t wearing Instant Openness today. And it’s not the pheros that I don’t like the smell of, it’s the cover scent in Instant Openness.

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I wasn’t trying to turn friends into lovers here, just looking for a comment like “have you lost weight” or “that outfit looks good on you” or “you seem to be in a good mood today”, or maybe just have them feel a tad more giddy than usual or just anything out of the ordinary.

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The most responce I ever recieved from close friends I see regularly was a little bit of confusion in how to act towards me. That lasted about 5 minutes.

Distant friends, they seem confused for a little bit, but then I genraly see some sort of result (although very small)

They know your natural scent to well, so when it’s altered they go into default mode. It may take time to see any effect with close friends. You may have to wait until you change your own social actions due to the use of pheromones before they change the way they treat you.

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I have been using pheros for 1 week exactly and have noticed quite a few reactions from others. Some have been very subtle and some have been very overt.

My very first day, I was looking for “in your face” type reactions and was a little disappointed when they didn’t appear, or did they? (Later that evening, I was going over the events of the day and I started to recall little things.. such as our office hottie (24F-Latino) that rarely comes into my office, but on that day she must have been in there at least 5 different times and for no apparent reason other than to ask redundent questions … definately NOT like her to do this. She is very intelligent for her age… ahh beauty, brains and body :wink: Anyway, I digress .. there were other subtle things that I noticed about other staff members but I won’t go into that.) Coincidences? Perhaps .. but I am very observant to details and it just seemed abnormal.

My intentions for wearing pheros is primarily for business purposes, but I also bought a few products to test on my wife. :wink: During routine business meetings, I find myself more focused and it appears that the person or persons that I meet with seem to focus more on what I have to say. Is it the work of pheros, well I can’t say for sure but my guess would be yes.

As far as my wife, I tried Ammo and Turn up the Heat this past weekend and they had an enormous effect on her. She had no idea that I was even wearing them. (I wanted an unbiased reaction from her)

And lastly, I think your attitude has to be congruent with the type of pheros that you are putting out there. As I said though, I am still very new to pheros and I’m sure more experienced users can either dispute that notion or verify it with greater detail.

Good Luck!

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KSage, Maybe you’re using a bit much, and mixing too early ?

2 drops of A314 is a bit much, especially if you are not used to it and with people who know you (they need to re-adapt).

Also, in my case I found A314 takes time to produce effect on closer people, the more they know you, the longer that is. For ex., 1 drop a day will start to affect colleagues in say 2-3 days, maybe 4, and subtly. It would be a remark, an action that you find unusually theirs.

The quickest way to figure A314 out is to try it on its own. Same with others as well.

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OK, so I’ve been trying them out one by one, varying the doses, etc. and I’ve seen some effects. One of the things that threw me a bit, especially given some of the examples I’d read, is how long the pheremones take to establish their effect when someone enters my space. I expected something near-instantaneous, as would happen with the noticable fragrance of a cologne, but instead it seems to take a while, a bit past the “first impression” stage. Is this what everyone else is experiencing?

So far I’ve noticed effects from A314, Instant Openness, and Instant Jerk, but oddly enough I still haven’t gotten the hang of Instant Shine. I’ve tried from 2 all the way up to 5 sprays and haven’t seen a thing from it. Should I be wearing it more for self-effect than for affecting others? Maybe I misundertand what “shine” is. Can someone give me a fuller description of what situations IS works best in and what effects it generally has?

Thanks,
kSage

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Here’s my metaphor for Instant Shine: a celebrity is moving among the crowd and a magic spotlight hovers above his/her head, highlighting attractive features, and emphasizing actions that are celebratory / playful / fun in nature.

Song A: “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun” by Cindi Lauper
Song B: “Celebrate Good Times” by Cool and The Gang

Why do you get personal space violations? People want to share the spotlight with you – as long as you are presenting socially as a warm and welcoming person (versus a forbidding or distancing presence) then people (strangers) will touch your back or arm (unnecessarily), lean in front of you, stand closer than usual, whisper in your ear …

If you act in mild conflict with the Shine vibe (celebratory, fun) or if you put on enough A314, for example, you can get a certain amount of subtle sexual tension based on “holding back the fun” because people can get hooked “waiting for the dam to burst.” (Yes, you can use suspense to amp the vibe.)

Best venue: dance floor – any kind of dancing, from c&w two-step/line, discotheque, rock, rave, etc. (I don’t know about ballroom, but why not!?)

Best expression: laughter, clapping hands (applause, or rhythm/to music), kicking up your heels

Impression: vitality, youthful exuberance

Tip: share the wealth of Instant Shine celebrity with everyone to pre-empt jealousy (don’t hog the spotlight); notice how your own celebration depends on and is enhanced by the high spirits of others around you. Go ahead and spray others around you if you wish …

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That’s not what you said in your first post.

I guess sometimes our posts can have a meaning all their own. Isn’t it amazing how something as simple as this can be taken so far out of context.

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I’ve found this to be very true in the short time I’ve been testing my products, too. I had an extended post elsewhere about helping a friend move and when I read your comments, it struck me that I didn’t really notice much from either he or his wife, but those that I was meeting for the first time displayed behaviors I attributed to the phero signature of A314 (which was surprisingly close to the advertised description).

Those know us … already “know” us – and when presented with new information via an invisible ‘nudge’ from pheros, aren’t going to change their behavior.

Today was another test, using a different combination. 3 sprays Instant Shine applied to the backs of my hands and neck – and two drops of A314 to my mustache and soul patch in the morning.

I’ll admit that for me, the benefits of IS were subtle today – and after 4.5 hours I reapplied another drop of A314 – two of IS and two of the mysterious test spray of “molecule F” that came with my order.

I’ve asked several times, but nobody has answered the question: is this “molecule F” the same as TAF? I re-read Cole’s note, but the afternoon was not as pleasant as the morning – so perhaps I OD’d.

test, test, test – – I’ve had some incredibly good results so far – and finding the perfect blend will be a fun experiment. Right now, I’m looking for the ‘business mix’ – – I have a good idea of what to apply for other pursuits (even if I AM missing Ammo from my arsenal :smiley: )

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You got it. TAF.

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MarkL,

Thanks for the description of Instant Shine. Yours is quite different from what I got from the product page on the store website, though I see how they are compatible. I’ve been doing most of my testing during the daytime when I’m not all that relaxed and playful and neither are the people around me, so that surely has something to do with it.

So what do you recommend for where to apply it? Should I “share the wealth” by putting it on my wrists or, since IS’s profile is more of a stretch for me than the other pheros, keep it close (neck/chest)?

kSage

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the only reaction i got was from this girl im trying to get “you seemed sexier today for some reason”