Well, lets see…got a N00b here armed with AMMO, Instant Female Magic, Instant Honesty, Instant Openness, and Instant Shine; also got a free 5mL sample of MX203.
I just got em’ a couple days ago and am taking advice I found here on the forums and using only one at a time for starters so as I can try to isolate their noticeable & unseen effects and yes I’m going light on em’ and attempting to find my sweet spot
I must say I really do enjoy Instant Shine, I use it at work to lighten up the mood/atmosphere …my line of work is rather stressful (dealing with the public, reports, etc) and I find Instant Shine makes me rather smiley and almost giddy and I feel like I emit an aura and I just pull people in…people seem to lighten up and be in a overall good mood, as do I. Does this sound right for IS’s known effects?
Anyways, I’m looking forward to starting a periodic log of my mis/adventures, so stay tuned for em’!!! ……
Your description of IS effects are spot-on with most of our experiences. I say most because some people don’t really experience self-effects of IS, like me It’s weird…I feel a tiny bit fresher and more optimistic after applying, but certainly not the strong effects you describe here. Keep the reports coming, and be skeptical in your attribution of the pheros to any neutral observations.
Also, nice job isolating the pheros in your experiments…sometimes we get rather unhelpful reports on this forum like “I’m wearing Ammo, P93, Instant Openness, Instant Female Magic, and A314. And this girl jumped me!! Probably saw me as higher status from the A314 and decided to jump me because of the Ammo.”
Pheromones are all subjective, but I’d say that analysis is close to the consensus: “spot-on” even.
Instant shine doesn’t make me, myself, giddy, but it does make me feel young and carefree. It does give a light feeling, a “turning up” feeling. It reminds me of the “light” scene in Manchurian Candidate (sorry, couldn’t resist), and the director’s explanation for his chosen visual effect. IS increases the “intensity” of an experience, similar to a party.
This is the one pheromone I’m not sure how to put a “person” on, maybe Ellen Degeneres? Somebody youthful, a touch silly or ditzy, and a bit vibrant and a little flamboyant. That’s why I used the “Manchurian Candidate” reference. Yeah, it’s definitely Ellen Degeneres, though. Instant Shine is “anti-banalistic”, just like Ms. Degeneres. Nothing is ordinary. Anybody who could make a living starring in commercials talking about credit cards viz a viz socks is not remotely banal.
Now, repeat after me “Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known.”
I guess I forgot to mention I used 3 sprays of the Instant Shine from a full-sized bottle…one to the back of the neck and one to each wrist; when I spray the wrists I then wipe each one in the crook of the elbow on the opposite arm to help with dispersal…don’t know if this matters but thought I’d mention it
Also, I am Caucasian, mid-twenties, light-brown hair, O type blood and shower at least once every day. I guess I am just not a smelly guy and can get away with one shower a day, always after work; so when I wake up in the morning and go to work, I have natural pheromones at work. I guess I’ve always used antiperspirant, but have heard that if you use a deodorant instead you are not masking the naturals and will in fact help spread them around…in your opinion is there any truth to this?
3 sprays… wow. I was only using one or two sprays. I get a “lighting up” effect with one spray, it’s quick but gradual just like the “Manchurian Candidate” scene I mentioned, minus the visuals and the hissing sound. There the similarities end, of course, and I feel like stufff is happening a bit more intensely. I’ll have to try more sprays and see what happens.
Perhaps I have some hidden programming for Androtics to elect Steve-O as President. Steve-O is definitely the kindest, warmest, bravest, most gentle man I have ever known. In all seriousness, pheromones are real, but they do not do what most people think they do, they don’t control peoples behavior, they suggest it. Some people are more open to suggestion than others, of course, and some suggestions won’t make sense to some people unless your physical behavior matches your suggestions. They also affect you as much as anybody else, so you are being “controlled” just as much by pheromones as anybody else. The real power is deciding in what “image” you are going to wear for the day, that is all.
Have fun Niceguy, and welcome… and I’ll give you a rep.
Easier said then done!!! I think I read a thread earlier where a female user stated she inadvertently told her partner while lying in bed half-conscious
Niceguy, anti-persperant greatly reduces the natural pheromones. Deodorants do not necessarily do this, neither do alum sticks (“thai crystals”- though they should reduce androstenone, they don’t stop sweating or other pheromones). Deodorants that do have antibacterial properties will reduce androstenone. Androstenone is a highly sexual and polarizing pheromone that people either like a certain level of, or it produces unease or less interest- no androstenone is always the safest, especially in an office environment.
This is where I’m always touchy. Having always been overweight, my journey into puberty came with some pretty rank BO, regardless of how much I bathed and used deodorant. It mellowed out in my late teens, but Junior high was PURE HELL. As a result, I’m pretty anal retentive about bathing and using deodorant. I’ve read several times here to skip the deodorant when using pheros to see how they interact with the body’s natural pheromone secretions. That’s a risk I’m not willing to take, personally. I know my BO isn’t nearly as bad as when I was a teen, but there have been a few times when I overslept and had to rush out the door without a shower, and was not pleased by the end of my workday.
Anyway, just thought I’d toss this into the mix as one person’s perspective on the subject.
It seems my BO levels have been falling off in the last half decade or so, being in my 30’s now. I only really smell bad now if I haven’t taken a shower in two days (I usually bathe every day), or if I have exercised alot. I probably do make less androstenone (contrary to what I originally thought), which probably isn’t a bad thing really. From my experiments in the mall have shown- androstenone turns off alot of people but some combed hair, nice poise, a spritz of a pleasant cologne, and the right social pheros does get you noticed.
I never really had any issue with BO (maybe because I’m asian??), i shower twice a day, in the morning before i leave and at night before i goto bed, however i could go on 2 days without shower and not have any BO. I think it’s due to my body chemistry, i also don’t have any BH, maybe thats got something to do with it as well?? who knows.
An ex of mine used to bury her nose in my armpit reveling in how I didn’t smell to her, if anything I smelled good. I thought it was a bit strange, but I guess asian guys don’t smell much? I was her first asian experience, maybe that’s why she was shocked? .
Lets see if I can’t get my thread back on track here…and yes, I think I 'm the one that derailed it
I went out to the bars last night with a married female friend of mine and her husband. I wore 2 AMMO to the chest, 2 Instant Shine to the back of the neck, 2 Instant Openness to each wrist. And I caught my female friend, who I believe not to have any feelings for me, staring at me several times with a big smile and she was like just gazing at me like she hasn’t done before; I just smiled back and completely ignored this as I don’t want to “go there”, cause I’m not that type of guy. I guess she had about three drinks at this point, so I do not know if that had anything to do with it. I guess she was more chatty and in good spirits than usual. As far as other people being possibly being affected, her husband was very chatty also…nothing too deep, but just pointless dribble almost. I didn’t really notice anything else, but I guess I wasn’t in close contact with anyone else really though seeing as I was just sitting down with these 2 friends and everyone else we went out with was playing pool.
No notable hits from AMMO, but I guess I wasn’t really “looking” anyways…thats why I mostly had socials on But seeing as I’m new to this, I probably wouldn’t notice the less subtle hits which aren’t dead on “deer in headlights” look.
She gave you an “Indicator of Interest”, and the interest on her part is probably mostly unconscious, and not necessarily sexual- you can get them from anybody really (I’m sure Prince Charles gets lots of IOI’s). Sounds to me like you don’t want to go there (or do you? ), but it’s probably harmless.
If you don’t want as much interest, try x1 shine and x1 openness, and go easy on the Ammo. You might not even want Ammo in social situations like that. Instant Honesty x1 is also good for “real” conversations.
It’s kind of hard to notice if you’re not looking for it. At the top of the main Men’s Forum page, there is a link to the Men’s Journals subforum. You ought to check it out. Lot of good journal entries and test results from a lot of knowlegable people.
Thanks… I completely missed that. I’m going to start posting there. Also, maybe if a moderator could move all my “day” type posts to the journals, that would be good. I was totally unaware of that.
I work with alot of females and I get many reactions now that I have never noticed…IOI/smiles/overall improvement of moods/chummy buddy-buddy like behavior like they’ve known me a long time even though I’ve worked there for 3 months. True I wouldn’t date anyone from work out of respect for keeping things separated from my personal life, but it does make things fun and interesting to wear socials and maybe just a shot of AMMO or 2 at work. Normally, I usually go to work now with 2 Sprays of Instant Shine (1 each to the hair and back of neck), 2 sprays of either Instant Openness or Instant honesty to the wrists which I then rub into the crook of my elbow on the opposite arm, and 2 sprays of AMMO to the chest.
My boss is definitely an alpha female, she is the Sgt. of our little merry group of enforcers and the “in your face” type of gal…I very much respect here for this. Odd enough, even though I don’t have/wear A314 yet, I have seen a change in her behavior towards me when I started wearing my pheros. She is now less cranky (still very so though!!! lol), nicer to me, almost understanding and respectful of me, trusts me even more now…all this from wearing 2 sprays of Instant Shine, 2 Sprays of Instant Openness or Instant Honesty (I trade off every now and then), and 2 AMMO…so amazing!!!
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It’s weird…I feel a tiny bit fresher and more optimistic after applying, but certainly not the strong effects you describe here. Keep the reports coming, and be skeptical in your attribution of the pheros to any neutral observations.