Instant Shine: strange experience

I would like to share with you a rather weird reaction I got with Instant Shine.

I went to a party at a company which I had visited often and where I was rather popular among the staff. There were a dozen or so people present, sitting around the table eating, drinking and chatting. All except one were female, some older, some younger, some prettier, some uglier, some I knew well, some I saw for the first time.
After a cordial welcome, I got something to eat and drink and sat down. As the party progressed, I began to notice that I was being ignored. Two discussion circles emerged on my left and on my right and I was in the middle, excluded from conversation. People would answer direct questions from me (sometimes after a second of hesitation), but otherwise I could just as well not have been there. On the right side, the girls closer to me even turned their backs on me. The girl on my left with whom I had had quite normal conversations on other occasions, turned away from me as much as she comfortably could. I commented on things she said something like four times and she didn’t even appear to hear me. (And when I met her the next day without Instant Shine, she was very talkative and jovial, an entirely different person!)
Later, I stood up and sat to another place, next to a girl. In a few minutes, she stood up and joined the people in another room. After a while, she returned to the table, but took a seat on the other end of the table, i.e. at the farthest point from me. Things got better when there were only four people left. A woman who had for the whole evening been at the distance of a couple of meters from me, made quite interesting conversation with me, and a girl I whom I knew best in that company moved closer to me and made conversation as well.
The party reminded me of something that had happened earlier on the same day. We had a modest birthday party at work. Something like eight people were standing in a circle, holding their glasses and making conversation for something like half an hour or less. I approached a girl who has been very friendly with me recently, and made conversation with her. She reacted quite normally at first, but in a couple of minutes, she walked away for no apparent reason. She didn’t leave the party, she just walked over to the other edge of the circle and stayed there for the rest of the party.

That evening, I was thinking that Instant Shine ought to be renamed into Invisible Man, as that was exactly how I felt. I quit using it because I really don’t want to go through another evening like this.

Now, before you LOL and shout OD, let me tell you about the dose: 1 spray on exposed skin at 8 o’clock in the morning, along with lightly scented Nivea aftershave; and 1 spray on clothes right before going to that party, that is at 5 o’clock in the evening. Had taken a shower in the morning and wore clothes I hadn’t worn for a while. If that’s an OD, I don’t know what would be an ND (normal dose).

More recently, I have twice observed a similar effect (although not nearly as extreme) with Chikara.

Experts: what does this experience tell you about my natural pheromone signature, and what pheromone product might have the kind of effect on me that Instant Shine was supposed to have?

Yes, i had that same effect with mx102 alone. I had it also when i was wearing mx102 + cttm2 + TUTH. Also happenned another time when i had a mega OD of TUTH. These 3 occasions happened when i had mega ODed all of them, nobody looked at me, they were all terrified.

How old are you? (Isn’t IS for younger dudes, 17 - 25?)

Were you getting good results with IS in the morning?

Have you got good results other times?

IMO, the IS had time to transforme into other compounds from the morning application.
What i do these days is: If i upplyed pheromones before a party, i wash them off like a mad man, scrub them off really clean because they accumulate and or transform into androstenone because 90% of people are scared shitless of me cause of the insane amounts of androstenone.

(Well, the time i mega ODed on the TUTH, no girls talked to me, girls were scared, but in a matter of minutes, a gang of guys that knew me a bit formed a sort of animal pack around me, and we were walking around like a pack of lions or wolves, and when i asked my friend “where do you want to go”, he answered “hey man, i don’t know, i don’t like to lead, your the boss”, i was like “WTFFFFF!!!”. So i became a MEGA alpha male, but the sweet sexy Sophie got scared of me :frowning: !)

Come to think of it, i OD really often. I’m going to lay off the pheromones. My skin is drenched with residue pheromones from 30 application days. I honestly think my social life may have worsened a little because of all this.

I never used IS by itself - just with IO or IH or A314. I’ve always had decent reactions.

However, I wore two CTTM2, 1 IS (Double Strength) and I TUTH (5 mcg) in my hair. Went to a Christmas party and had similar effects as you. People would talk to me for a couple of minutes and find an excuse to leave. I thought it was the none from TUTH. Did you have anything on besides IS.

Sometimes when we get wierd reactions I’m not sure if its us or the pheromones. I’ve found that sometimes pheromones in general don’t work well when I’m not in a up state of mind (lack of sleep, something bad just happened, etc.). Its hard to tell what is what - but I always suspect the pheromone too.

I’ve had similar experience with Chikara. Sometimes it worked well for me and sometimes I had people avoid me. I don’t use it anymore as there are much better things available here.

After reading Thomasslavoie’s post I remembered that I also had 1 spray MX102 in addition to 1 spray TUTH (1.1), 2 CTTM2, 1 IS (Double Strength) and 2 drops A314 from the monring - on other buildup as I hadn’t worn pheromones for a couple of days. I thought the CTTM2 and IS would counter any distancing effects of A314, MX102 and TUTH - but it did not.

At another party I’d worn 3 IS, 3 IH, 1 IS (Double Strength), 1 TUTH (1.0) and 1 MX102 and everyone initiated conversation with me. I’m not quite sure why it was so different this time.

I’m going to stop pheromoning 100% for a while, i think right now it’s doing more harm than good. Only when i’m around SEXY SEXY SEXY HOT WARM UBER BABE MAUDE!

1 TUTH or 1 mx102 with her works insanly good!!!
I once even applied 1 mx102 infront of her and she started crusing me like crazy. When i wear TUTH she touches me!!! WOWOWOWOWOWOOWOWO!!! touching, she grabs me, wants me to own her!!!

yes man .. today the same thing happened to me at worK ..

I actually got loadz of bottle’s of different phermones which I don’t use regularly … like SOE, MX102 and stuff .. so I mixed them all up in one spray bottle and applied it .. Like mix with Instant Shine, PI .. and suddenly PPL were also not listening to me … they were like avoiding me and trying to ignore me in the conversation. this was funny! I had to basically scream to pass on my thoughts then it used to be fine .

Looks like I have to simply avoid phermones for few days … the safest product is I guess LIquid Trust!!!

kewl. People are starting to post negative results as well for everything. Now I wonder what the cause behind all this is.. usually with this stuff it is some sort of raving review. Must be the case of OD’s so far.

It may be related to rare and unexpected conversions. The biochemistry on our skin is incredibly diverse and ever changing…

Where the heck did you pick THAT up?

A lot of the people BOTH male and female here who use IS regularly, are well over 30 - a couple are even 50+!

It may allow people to perceive you as more youthful (I must be bordering on juvenile in this case, as I NEVER act my age), but it’s for everybody to use and benefit from.

Ail :slight_smile:

I’m 36. Isn’t ist visible to you?

Yes and no. I had a girl get unusually chatty with me and I had a girl walk away from me. (The latter one I like a lot more.)

I got very confusing reactions. Sometimes, I was feeling better than usually, sometimes worse, some people reacted positively, some negatively. I did not notice the effect that IS is supposed to have according to what’s told on the website.

I’m well into the 50’s and MHarris and Jasmin both suggested IShine for me. Will cheerfully go with the pro’s on this one. Can’t say I’ve noticed anything strongly noticable when whearing it in terms of effect. But i alos usually wear low doses. Have just ordered the 2x version and will see what happens when I amp it up a bit.

Honestly, I don’t know how you could possibly get that response from instant shine. I have never had bad results, and in fact it makes me absolutely magnetic to people.

Magic,

Doesn’t sound like Instant Shine to me. While your skin bacteria could be converting it in an untoward manner, it could always be a batching error. I’d like to take a look. Please send in your bottle for a free replacement. Call our 800 number (or our international line if you’re outside of North America) to make arrangements, or write to Jasmin on the forum.

This is a good time to bring something up about none od - when I wear too much and get ignored by people the next time I see them they behave extra happy to see me it’s exactly like they (realy didnt) see me and missed me. I have seen this way too many times for it to be my imagination. Anyone else see this in social situations like with co-workers?

Amazing.

Now that you’ve said it - indeed, this looks like what happened to me today at work (after I used The Edge yesterday), and has possibly happened before.

After this discovery, one begins to look differently at OD’s. Like it might be beneficial to cause a prophylactical OD to your date on the day before the date.

I have only good hits while using Instant Shine as well as all the products here at Androtics. In fact I receive too much attention when I’m wearing it and I’m in my late…late 30’s. I wear mones on a daily basis and have no problems with OD’s. Probably because most of the products I use are heavily laced with Alpha and Beta Nol.

HA! While reading your poste, i was having many mental images of situations of this happening, i’m the guy that probably owns the most TUTH bottles in north america other than MHarris, we have 4 bottles in our house, i bought them from my friend and from this site. I agree with you 100% on what you just said.

Yesterday, with a guy in math class, that i love talking too, i had 0 pheromones, my winter coat we like 7 meters away (my coat is drenched in TUTH, i’m gona clean in VERY well this weekend, i usually keep it near me), and he was SOOO happy to talk to me, he was acting very fatherly and explained all the problems i didn’t understand, and he kept laughing like a REALLY good friend. He was REALLY happy and had a huge smile.

It seemed as if he haddent talked to me for weeks, because my coat has been drenched in TUTH for weeks.

Holy molly, i’m gona clean my coat off, go talk to my “x girl friend”, maybe she will like me like before. TUTH, has been fun, but its going too far, its hurting my social life.

The other day, with my friend mathieu, i wasn’t wearing pheromones, he was really f**king happy to see me!

so what is a good way to head off the OD problem before it happens?

You kinda revived an old thread, but basically what I will do is scrub the applications points well when you bathe, and take some pheromone-free days.

You may have revived an old thread, but in a way that’s good, as I see I had mentioned that I was going to say something about my experience weith 2x IShine. Unfortunately I really didn’t see much difference in those around me, and thanks to my cronic sinusitis, I get no self-effects at all.

Some people have reported great things with IShine, and maybe the stuff is giving me some positive effects (at least in terms of the way it affects others), but I can’t say I’ve seen anything really outstanding. But I’ve also been lax in doing any serious testing for a variety of reasons, and maybe I should give it another go…