My thought was and still is that MX297 has a female pheromone in it. This is why no matter what a male pairs it with you get a non sexual response.
I think that one of the ingredients in MX297 is TAL.
My thought was to mix in some RONE of maybe cancel out the feminine aspect of the TAL.
2 sprays to MX297
2 sprays of RONE at 2.5 mcgs per spray
I sprayed at 1pm and I was off. I had a little shopping to do. 20 mins into this mix I notice a little light fear/nervousness. I also notice men moving away from me.
Women had little or no reaction. However, I did not strike up a conversation at this point.
2 hrs into this mix I go into a store to pick up some jeans. The sales girl takes me to the jean section and shows me a pair that would fit me. This is not a hit as I have been in this store before. The sales people run over to help you here.
I try to get some conversation out of her but she gives me short answers. Nothing like the usual MX297 answers. After a few more efforts at conversation I go change. I try the conversation again. No go.
As I check out and get ready to leave I look back at her and she waves bye.
I really like the comfort that MX297 brings to women. I also like the great communication that I have with women while wearing MX297. Unfortunately that’s as far as it will go with this mix.
Seems like MX297 projects a positive social presence. More of a comforting MX with the ladies. If that is your end game, this MX is perfect. To take it up from there… well, I think that another MX would need to be tried. It doesn’t look like rone will do it. How about none? I was curious about the guys in your post, seemed to not show you respect. The other variable in the equation is your own mone production. Some guys have posted this MX as a ‘perfect for clubbing’ spray…
If it is some TAL in MX297, then, it would come across in a similar fashion, to your experience in a guy. Beta-ish when a guy wears it.
You got me thinking about this, as when my wife used MX297, she gets a boost in confidence, spring in her step kind of vibe. I’ve gotta order her some more! Female reaction to this MX is a stronger feminine presence.
Here’s a Jas quote on TAL and I was digging into the MX297 and TAL and found this post by the man himself. “The TAL would make women aggressive and direct (chime in here, Taoist Biker and others!) and also reduce LMR.” -*** Jas ***
From this post: Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction
Thomaslavoi seems to agree with you, do you think his prescription of some ammo would clear it up? I wonder if its a matter of congruence- If Mx297 is a beta-inducer, I wonder what an overwhelming alpha presence would do- if it would just cause confusion or ‘prove’ oneself, if I make sense.
Yes I’ve used MX297 to get my foot in the door. I like this mix because it is consistent and very, very social. It’s just great to use around women. You just won’t get laid with this on.
Nope but my next try may be with P74
Well…I did wear MX297 with IJ once. I still have to test that one again. I have a feeling that the feminine signature just overrides whatever is added to it.
This may have been due to a confusing or overbearing alpha signature from the addition of the RONE.
I came here from a PUA environment so not to brag but I am well schooled in female “go” signals as opposed to regular conversation. Not to insult anyone but just because a woman talks to you that does not mean she wants to sleep with you…lol. Anyway it was explained to me that many of the men here are not PUA’s. In fact many are not that experienced in the art so when they get a hair flip or a little conversation then ding, ding ding they perceive a BIG HIT.
It really goes beyond Beta-ish all the way into the realm of womanhood. I think women perceive the wearer as a big sister or a BFF
I hope to god you are feeling well. As I remember correctly, I’m the one who claimed that it a314 still worked for me 24 hours later. Prove me wrong? Instead of calling it bull, you have no facts to stand on, yet you go on your accusations. However, you can believe what you want to believe to help you sleep at night. Next time, say it to my face instead of hiding it in your journal. And about crappy reporting, you are entitled to your opinion, and I respect that.
Thank you for providing proof, it is good to have facts to stand on. However, these are not facts but people’s opinions. But I will give you the benefit of the doubt and use those same 2 people you have been using. They mentioned that dry cool weather, it can extend the duration to more than 10 hour+.
First of all, for 1 year, I find that pheromones on me, less = more. What I mean by that is everytime I go over 1 spray of anything, it is an overdose and honestly, sometimes even one spray is an overdose.
Now coming in terms with A314, one drop for me I see massive intimidation reactions. It is in oil form and it lasts quite easily 8 to 10 hours+. Now like steve said, it depends on the weather, and to be honest, the only time I have applied it were cold weathers, or very very hot. Very hot weather is when I applied more than one drop.
Here is a quote from A314’s store page
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I work out every morning and do other activities before applying pheromones. Maybe that what causes the over dosages. I’m not sure because the days I applied pheromones without working out in the morning were very limited. I believe that over dosage of one product extends its duration. I can’t go below one drop of A314,it being oil form and lasts all day anyways, so I just settle in with 1 drop until the positive effects kick in, which sometimes, it really does take at least 12 hours plus. When you see positive effects that you don’t see before without wearing pheromones and are well consistant, while it is well passed the 12 hour mark, what credit can you give this to?
I have no other motif than sharing my experience to help with the development of their products.
I recently got a sample of a Vendors product that will debut in December of this year.
This is a product from a very big pheromone vendor. He gave out about 23 samples of his product. I was one of the first to submit a detailed report on the product.
I am well known for factual and thorough product testing. He sent a 10ml sample and I tested this product well. At 1-5 sprays, different settings…ect
Well, my report was negative. We had a short argument in my review thread and that was that.
I sent the vendor a PM asking for another sample hoping to improve his product by mixing it with ANONE, RONE and other PMONES. I even offered to privately PM him my results. The Vendor did not answer my PM.
Only 7 people who received his product samples reported on the product and all of the reviews were similar to mine.
I also reviewed a mix that I won’t name and now the owner of that mix will not talk to me…
If I review your product and my review doesn’t fit your expectations then don’t take it personally. Just go and improve the product!
There’s been some talk on the forum about A-1 so I decided to do a megadose test this morning.
7 drops of A-1 (1 each wrist, 2 on neck, 1 back of neck, 1 behind each ear)
I apply the drops with 1 spray of cologne over each app point. The plan was to apply the drops a little early so if I had an adverse effect I could wash it off before I leave the house.
I packed a washcloth with soap and alcohol in a zip-lock bag (just in case)
I got on the bus and sat 1 seat away from this girl. I got no reaction from her throughout the bus ride. The 3 guys sitting across all pulled out their cell phones at almost the same time to make calls. I’m not sure if this was a result of my cloud or what. It may have been a matter of “monkey see, monkey do.”
I sat next the girl and saw no IOI’s from her at all. I felt like I may have been ghosting.
This is my second test at @196mcg’s (@28mcg’s x 7). I do have some observations.
28-50 mcg’s-mild effects on women. mild depression.
50-75 mcg’s-nice effects on women. this is my sweet spot for A-1. mild to medium depression.
196 mcg’s-no noticeable effects on women. self effects=good feeling.
I may have bypassed the danger zone by going from 3 drops right to 7 drops. I am also curious now about microdosing with A-1.
In psychology, frustration is a common emotional response to opposition. Related to anger and disappointment, it arises from the perceived resistance to the fulfillment of individual will. The greater the obstruction, and the greater the will, the more the frustration is likely to be. Causes of frustration may be internal or external. (Wiki)
I have been experimenting with various combinations of the consumer line only to have many “fails”. I have set very, very high standards for what I consider a success.
The woman must approach or in the very least close the distance
The woman must feel comfortable.
The woman must talk (DIHL is nice but communication is necessary)
The woman must be sexually attracted
The woman must want to act on the attraction (LMR and defense must be eliminated.
The formula should affect memory and/or cause “the fallout effect”
This must (should) work for all age groups 18-50
Well, that’s a tall order. I think I can do it but I am resigned to that fact that I have no help. The reports that come in on products are spotty, missing information and inaccurate. Not everyone’s report, just the majority of reports.
The pioneer reporters such as Warren, NBully, Wildflower, Dancing Joker and RADMAN have disappeared. R.I.P Tactius.
To date no one has done this. The only product on the market that comes close is A314. The problem with that is that A314 has already been tested with so many consumer products. Maybe A314 needs to be tested with some of the rarely used putatives.
It seems like the 100+ line of putatives lack much of the testing, beyond a few star products. I’m working my way up slowly, I’d love it if AD released a premixed multipack of 100+'s.
Well, If you really want to know here is a list of putatives that I feel need testing or retesting: P76, P77, P80, P82, P90, P97, P99, P100, P101, P104, P106, P109, P110, P111, P112, P115, P119, P123, P124, P125, P126
Maybe instead of dropping IO as a free gift, Androtics should drop one of these in the fedex envelope.
Alot of testing right? Could be the new flavor of the month is somewhere in here.
I’d love some P123 testing for sure! One of my must have putatives.
Yup, I’d think that a P in a Togo with a similar ‘surprise freebie’ letter as the new MX series with the SDT asking for feedback could get some much needed testing.
Female reaction to this MX is a stronger feminine presence.