So I finally decided to start a journal. After wandering the forum I’ve decided to settle down here. All of my writings findings and testing will be posted here.
Whatever pops into my mind will probably end up here also.
So I finally decided to start a journal. After wandering the forum I’ve decided to settle down here. All of my writings findings and testing will be posted here.
Whatever pops into my mind will probably end up here also.
“The Fuse”
20mcg TAA - to create draw and good feelings
2.5mcg Androstenone - to create man-presence and sexual spark
150mcg Meo- est - to create comfort and increase draw
15mcg P79 - to intensify emotional response overall
20-35mcg Beta Androstenol - to promote closeness and sense of familiarity
A formula that djandarial posted on August 15th, 2010
This is the path. Create a formula with purpose…a formula with a path.
Today I am wearing a product from another company. It’s just Androstenone and Androsterone in a nice scent base.
One reviewer of this product said that one spray is enough. Another reviewer said 1-5 sprays but 3 is max and he ghosted at 5 sprays.
I’ve tried 1,2 and 3 sprays with no real results. Nothing like the 2 reviewers posted anyway. Maybe I just have to get a grip on the molecules…
I really don’t like it when I try a mix or a pheromone product and I don’t get the same results as others.
I don’t want to go too high in sprays with this because it’s not buffered with any socials. The high Androstenone and Androsterone content would just cause a fight. Also younger women do not react positively to alot of Androstenone
Just a bunch of random thoughts:
Just a bunch of random thoughts:
P75 - I tested it this morning at 25 mcg’s and I have come to the conclusion that this is too much. I got some head turns at 1.0 - 6.0 mcg’s. My theory is that the body probably produces less than .25 mcg’s of p75.
P93 - Definitely works on Caucasian women. P93 does not work on ethnic women. I have a few theories as to why. My first theory is that P93 affects women with a certain genetic marker. This theory sounds wild but the only difference between a Latino female and a Caucasian female is their genetic marker. Race is classification of humans into large and distinct populations or groups by factors such as heritable phenotypic characteristics or geographic ancestry, but also often influenced by and correlated with traits such as appearance, culture, ethnicity, and socio-economic status. In the early twentieth century the term was often used, in its biological sense, to denote genetically divergent human populations which can be marked by common phenotypic traits. (Wikipedia)
Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups. Conventional geographic “racial” groupings differ from one another only in about 6% of their genes. This means that there is greater variation within “racial” groups than between them. In neighboring populations there is much overlapping of genes and their phenotypic (physical) expressions. (Wikipedia)
Beta-Nol - I really have to research and test this when I get a chance.
Alpha-Nol - Androtics has not stocked Alpha-Nol for about 3 or more months now. I’ll have to buy it from another company.
IO - This is a combo of 40% A-Nol and 60% B-Nol. I like the combo however, it makes everybody run at the mouth, male and female.
I wonder what different ratios of A-Nol and B-Nol will produce. I already know that 60% A-Nol and 40% B-Nol makes IH and 50% A-Nol and 50% B-Nol makes CTTM. I have to try different ratios of these 2 Nol’s one day. They are like fraternal twins. The Alpha increases approachability and the Beta increases communication.
P78 - This could be a good putative to test at a party. Tried it solo last week. It has a uplifting vibe. I will try it with A-1
According to Tacitus TAA + TAC + P74 makes women comfortable around men, then adding P84 and TAH
According to Warren TAC vs TAA test reports, starting at the gym, with P74 and P124 effects
MX403 test
I finally got around to testing MX403. I decided that a self test was in order first.
One spray.
I feel the effects almost immediately. I get a kind of feeling that I want to blurt something out. My guess at the first component is Instant Honesty .
I also have this feeling that I want to chat so my guess at the second component is Instant Openness .
I hope there is a prize or reward if I’m right.
I had some P83 that I ordered last year. I’d used half of the 5ml bottle at 1 and 2 sprays solo and didn’t see any effects so I put the bottle away.
Last week I read some good reports about P83. In fact it was Madtater’s posts about it that got me going. So I pulled it out and dusted it off.
3 sprays P83 (12.5per) + 3 sprays AMMO. Nice combo.
I found that the barmaid at the bar that I went to was chatty and attentive. I wouldn’t say that she had a “high school crushy” feeling but she was more attentive. She sat right accross from me and stayed there. If she had something to do she would return to her seat across from me.
P83 has a sort of magnetic effect similar to Instant Shine. She was not in awe as with Instant Shine. It was more like she was drawn to me.
P83 is a nice putative at 40 or so Mcg’s. That seems to be the sweet spot for this putative.
I left there and went to another place and reapplied the combo. It worked a little then died out after 30 mins.
Refreshing this putative with more sprays seems to be a no no. The life span of this putative is about 60 mins…similar to TAA. It wears off after about 60 mins and probably starts converting quickly. Best bet would be to wash it off and reapply. It also seems to have pretty good range. I’d say about 5 feet.
I ordered this in FF21 to see if the FF21 increases the range.
Whoops! I just looked at my P83 5ml To-Go and it says 25mcg/per spray. Looks like I was initially testing at 25-50 mcgs. I finally got results when it was mixed with AMMO at 75mcgs. My thought is that this is one of those putatives that works better combined with other Pheromones and putatives.
In my last test I sprayed the P83 in my hair. I had good and bad results because of this. The good hits came from good diffusion. Pheromones seem to diffuse well in my hair. Like I said before, after an hour the P83 becomes ineffective. P83 is very sticky like androstenone. I don’t know if this is one of those pheromones that convert to androstenone but I suspect that it does. Hence the stickiness.
I left it in my hair and the next day it turned into an irritant. I was irritable and my friends were agitated. We never argue however two arguments broke out in our group the next day. Once I washed the P83 out of my hair I felt better. I felt relieved.
More on P83
As stated above P83 seems to have a magnetic effect. I tried some this morning. This girl who was standing next to me on the bus sat down when some seats became available.
I moved and sat at the back othe bus. She got a seat in the front. After I sat down she got up and sat accross from me. This was at 1 spray at 25mcg’s.
I wonder why P83 didn’t work for me before. Not sure why when I first try pheromones they don’t work. speaking of which…
I tried 2 sprays of Beta-nol yesterday. I was tired so it made me sleep. When I finally got to bed I slept like a baby. I will give this a serious test next week.
I will probably buy some Altoids today so that I can have a carrying case for my ToGo’s.
I plan to test P83 with Ammo again today
Well after reading several reports I just want to shout ”No! That is not a hit you geek!" Alot of posters will test their pheromones on a girlfriend, which is good. Intimate knowledge of a test subject is great. It makes it easier to tell how a pheromone is affecting her. However, I recently read a report in which the poster said that his girlfriend kissed him and held him tightly. He attributed that as a pheromone hit. Yes I know. The observations are subjective but…
My girlfriend used to be extra amorous or mad at me depending on what the topic was on the Oprah Winfrey show. If Oprah talked about “How to love your man better” then when I got home I got a big long hug. If the subject of the show was “Is your man cheating on you?” then I came home to a woman with her hands on her hips.
I read another report where a guy was going to meet a girl in another country. He already had rapport with the girl…ect. He was already well on his way to closing with her because he established rapport with the girl before he exposed her to his pheromones. He reported big hits from her. I just think that so many guys here mistake regular girl behavior with hits.
Again, yes I know. The observations are subjective.
A-1 megadose
So I decide to try the A-1 that I have sitting around. I had some scented oil so I mixed the oil and A-1 at about a 1:1 ratio.
I used about 6 drops of A-1. I applied the oil mix and off I went. I was afraid that I would get depressed because I was wearing about 125 mcgs of A-1 but I also knew that it was in oil and it wouldn’t diffuse like alcohol. In fact I was sure that the diffusion would be poor.
Anyway instead of feeling depressed I felt really good. I was shocked by this good feeling. Normally I wear 50-75 mcg’s with a cover scent and I get a depressed feeling. Today at 125 mcgs in oil I feel good.
I wonder if megadosing is the key to wearing A-1. I wonder if it was the oil base. Slow diffusion?
I plan to try this experiment again.
Mixing wisdom from a few geniuses
Just some pearls of wisdom from the great ones:
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I went to a restaurant today for lunch to try out IJ with MX297.
The formula is 2 sprays of MX297 and 1 spray of IJ all on neck
Well I’m not sure of what happened but I think I was getting a typical MX297 response.
I walk in the place and I forgot that I had something to do at the office. I decided to have my order to-go.
While I was waiting I struck up a conversation with the hostess. She was a 26 year old girl next door redhead…with grey eyes. She was not stunningly beautiful. She was pretty though.
Anyway while we were talking another girl came over (a waitress) Then another waitress came over.
Here’s the problem I was talking to all 3 of them and I couldn’t figure out if I was giving off the regular alpha female MX297 vibe or if it has turned sexual because of the IJ.
I finally gave up and went to pick up my food order.
MX297 is a hell of a mix but I’ll bet it has an estrogen based pheromone in it. There is something that totally prevents a man from getting laid with MX297.
Even MX297 + IJ is non sexual. I’ll have to give this another run to be sure though.
I still like Mx297 though.
So the MX297 is inclined to be ‘nice’ and ‘friendly’ for you, yes?
I like the thought of putting it together with IJ to sexy it up…
Now… I’ll be able to keep an eye on your journal as now I’m subscribed! Keep up the paradox!!
Thank you 1Alpha
Here is my first test using MX297: First test MX297
Here is my second test of MX297: Second test MX297
These tests were done when MX297 was first released. Posters were posting about how sexual it was…in error!
I found (and my findings were later corroborated) that MX297 was only a social, non sexual mix.
I thought that I’d give it a shot because of this report: https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx297-ij/52826
However looking at it now, I realize that the poster does not include a time frame. So, figuring that he sprayed before he left home and had a few drinks…90 minutes could have passed by between the time that he sprayed to his first encounter.
The life of a pheromone is about 3 hours: https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-long-do-pheromones-last-i-found-the-answer/41592
The exception is androstenone which lasts sometimes to the next day.
After dancing and sweating some of the pheromones could have converted or faded thereby creating another mix, a different set of chemicals on his skin.
Thank you 1Alpha for subscribing to my journal
P78 + IS test
P78 + IS test
Never again.
The formula was 2 sprays of P78 at 12.5mcg’s and 4 sprays of Instant Shine.
The P78 was on my neck and the Instant Shine was split between forearms, face and wrists.
The problem was the self effects. I applied the P78 and Instant Shine just before leaving the house. I immediately felt jittery but went out anyway. I wasn’t anxious or nervous I just felt jittery.
I’m off to the grocery store. I am about 30 mins into the mix as I enter the grocery store. I feel angry and irritated now. Hulk smash irritated.
With no where and no way to wash this stuff off I race through the grocery store as quickly as possible. I rush home and wash everything off. After scrubbing my neck and arms I start to feel better.
P78 does not play well at all with Instant Shine.
I did notice that everyone who I encountered was very helpful.
Never again.
With that combo, you sound like my P130 adventures… ![]()
So, that was 25 mu of P78 with 4 x IS… standard strength… ?
Well, I’m wondering if you can get the same results with P78 by its lonesome to your neck/ a dab on your upper lip… in a controlled environ… I’ve gotten jittery by the IShine on its lonesome at @ 7 or more sprays… of the 2x strength… but, not the ‘Hulk must smash’ feeling…
Could also be your own mones in conjuction with these 2… sometimes I get that, although I collected, calm and in control… some molecules and mones will uncork that control and irritations burst forth…
Thanks for takin’ one for the ‘team’, paradox! Hulk smash mix could be useful… in some scenario… just have to think about it a bit… ![]()
Yes the IS was standard strength. I looked through my old posts thinking that I’d reported on P78 solo already.
P78 is a nice pheromone I wore it once solo and once as a small test. P78 seems to have a nice uplifting self effect.
As a small test at 25 mu P78 seemed to make women curious. Maybe even attracted. It needs further testing for dosage and effect on others.
IS never affects me badly. I’ve worn 4 sprays regular strength with no problem.
Hulk Smash is no good for me unless I’m fighting crime in Gotham or entering an MMA match.![]()
Stuff to test
Stuff to test and retest
MX297 + IJ - Previous test went well but was inconclusive whether or not it is a sexual mix
MX297 + P74 - Adding P74 to this feminine mix may drown out the female vibe that this gives off.
CTTM + IS – I have some CTTM left I might as well use it. Not a priority test.
P83 + P78 – Seems to be a head turner at 2:1 ratio. There is draw here but it’s like fishing with only worms. No hook. If tests turn out well it may make a nice base for a formula. P78 still needs research. I suspect there may be some issue with P78.
P83 + P79 – Recommended by Tactius. Said to be good at a 1:1 ratio @ 50 mcg’s each.
A-1 – Second megadose test needed. The A-1 is already mixed in the oil and I have been shaking it once or twice a day for the last 2 weeks. The first test was good as far as self effects. I added on A314 later on that night. I need to test this oil mix solo. Not a priority.
Beta-Nol – Needs a dosage test
CTTM + TUTH + TAA + TAF – Just a tossup formula. Not a priority
IJ + P83 test
I decided to test IJ + P83 today.
I went to the laundromat which is usually crowded on Saturday morning. For some reason it was almost empty. I also went to the supermarket
2 sprays of IJ to back of neck. 50 mcg’s of P83 to front of neck.
The combo was good. It attracted more older women than the younger ones. Too much -none.
The p83 wore off after about an hour so the mix lost it’s draw.
Too bad people are so greedy. I would like to try P83 in some oil but I would need at least a 7 to 1 ratio for it to diffuse properly in oil. At least that’s what I’ve read.
IJ + P83 test
I decided to test IJ + P83 today.
I went to the laundromat which is usually crowded on Saturday morning. For some reason it was almost empty. I also went to the supermarket
2 sprays of IJ to back of neck. 50 mcg 's of P83 to front of neck.
The combo was good. It attracted more older women than the younger ones. Too much -none.
The p83 wore off after about an hour so the mix lost it’s draw.
Too bad people are so greedy. I would like to try P83 in some oil but I would need at least a 7 to 1 ratio for it to diffuse properly in oil. At least that’s what I’ve read.