Perronec's Research; AKA " what works best on Asian girls"

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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Thanks Bosshank! It makes me feel pretty good to know that people are benefiting from what I write here. Its been great for me to record these things, so Win win!

just another little add-on. I almost forgot about this until reading back through my own thread. A few posts back, i mentioned how i wasn’t going to go to class, but i was going to so i could run some tests…

Well i did, but forgot to write them down. I tested Instant jerk, 2x.

My teacher now dislikes me. today, i had his class again, and even though i arrived 5 minutes late, he marked me as absent. the class is 1.5 hours, and most teachers just write present and then the number of minutes you were late. some just mark you as present and forget about it. this guy, no. the week after i wore instant jerk, he is on my case. singling me out for my mistakes, general look of distaste for me. “Insubordinate ruffian” is the look i think I’m getting from him.

however, a little white chalk and a nice dark liquid black ink pen, and its like it never happened :cool:

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I decided to go for broke last night, and made a big mix. so big in fact i had to write down what i put in it because it was tooooo long to remember.

Instant Jerk x2
Instant Gentleman x2
IFM x3(back of neck)
P74 75mcg
p79 12.5mcg
p83 25mcg
spaceland x2
Betanol 20mcg
shine x1.5(1 weak spray=0.5)

I went to a birthday party, and I was a dominant socialite. no one was scrambling out of my way, by any means, but all i had to do was look in some one’s direction, and they would start talking to me or try to include me in their conversation. I spoke with everyone (nearly 40 people) over the 3 hours i was there, and one japanese girl repeatedly was playfully pinching my nipples.

Additionally, there was one sort of homely chinese girl that came who knew the birthday boy and no one else. obviously wasn’t a drinker(we were at a bar) and looked super awkward. I went over to try to talk to her, see what her story was and practice some chinese. she seemed to become a little confused, as I repeatedly asked her to speak chinese with me, and she would say “no my english/german isn’t good enough” why german, i have no idea. i certainly can’t speak it. after a few tries, she started to act more normal, and we had a quick little friendly chat. later the bday boy told me how he met her.

He was drunk and at Mcdonalds, and saw this girl sitting by herself. so he went up and started talking to her. turns out it was her birthday, and she was treating herself to some nice food…alone. even for chinese girls, thats pretty anti social. however, i noticed none of this while speaking with her. I would assume contact with my phero’s put her in the rare mood to be sociable.

later i found out that the cute japanese girl who was pinching my nipples made out with one of my friends(I went home early because i wanted to go to class) and then was told by her friends that she was drunk and didn’t mean it.

interesting night, nothing radical, but certainly fun.

the key elements of the mix were:

P74 75mcg
spaceland x2
Betanol 20mcg

most of what i saw could be attributed to these three.
the p79 might have made everything a little more intense.

the IFM might have made the Japanese girl feel comfy enough around me to be so playful.

the more I wear none products, the less i really feel that the sexual attraction of none is truly because of some sexual response woman have to the chemical, but rather (or at least mostly) because of a certain reverence you feel, act, and may notice others perceiving. Lead the men, get the women. so not to say that none doesn’t evoke sexual responses, just that it does it more indirectly than i first assumed.

additionally, i love the couplins in Instant jerk. I can feel the testosterone increase in a way i don’t feel with ammo or turn up the heat. I feel edgy and simply more “lets do this thing” ish.

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Interesting. I think I see where you were going with that combo.

That’s a boatload of p74. Why did you give p74 such prominence?

Also, how did you feel about the level of p79. Not too high considering you were working with two sprays of IJ?

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sometimes i go as high as 100mcgs with p74. 50 is where the good effects start, and after that i just have to decide what caliber of cool guy i want to be. 100+ and people trip over themselves trying to be my friend. its magnetic.

as for p79. i’m not too well versed with it, other than i notice heavier hits with my other mixes when i wear it. so give me some time, and i’ll get back to you on that one. i considered it may have been drowned out by everything else, but that is the problem with 1 time mixes. you don’t repeat them enough to really know what everything did.

I just remembered i had p83 in the mix too. i just edited the original post to include it.

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Oh, 25mu of p83 too? That changes things a bit.

If you have the chance, try it out again and let us know what you think.

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everything i thought about Asians and none are wrong at least when combined with p83. everything. they react normally. the difference is if you are seeking a traditional(most likely chinese) girl she is going to be conservative no matter what pheromones you wear.

i wore:

2x ammo
75mcg p74
50+ mcg p83
1 drop a314
20mcg betanol
1 x spaceland

its likely that the heavy hits i got were after those last two wore off.

i’m still sorta drunko right now, but i’ll do my best here.

I had 1 girl tell me she wanted to leave her boyfriend for me(litteraly gave me a proposition) phrased like, “if i left him could i have you?”(she is chinese).

a drunk japanese girl couldn’t stop looking at me and (same one as last time) tried to pinch my nipples playfully. I didn’t really talk to her, nor have much time for her tonight. maybe next week. she is totally cute/hot, but tonight she was too drunk.

all the italien girls were leaning on me kissing my cheeks, generally acting as if i were a high status male who is socially proven. I acted sexual with them, and while i skipped my chance with one for some sexual tension, it was there, i saw it, and decided against it.

Another girl would just laugh as I made jokes to other people. (she was white) and i would look at her funny to make her feel wrong yet excited and then look back to my friends. I did this few times, she was digging me.

All in all. Ammo= awesomeness in china.

I can’t believe how wrong i’ve been this whole time. I think the p83 made everything more impulsive and forward, but i like it. today was the end of my togo bottle, and now i have my 5mcg/spray 30ml bottle. so the doses will probably be lower, but i need to find my sweet spot.

fun night. seriously! I felt so sexual!

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Nice report!

Hell, I should fly over to China and hang out with you. It’s a lot better than down here in Miami as of late.

Keep posting those experiments.

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i tried a modified version of the other nights mix

A314 x 1
Ammo x 2
TUTH x 1 to wrists
30 mcg’s p83
20mcgs betanol
2 x Instant Openness.

started the night with beef sticks out side my apt. started talking to a little chinese girl there, she turned out to have a super smile, and if my head hadn’t been so wound up with her being the first girl (or person) i spoke to that night, i would have gotten her number. however, i didn’t even ask…stupid stupid stupid…i had just put all the stuff on, but it was cold outside, and a little windy so i don’t think they really played a role.

got to the bar and after some food, and we were planning on splitting a bottle of tequila between all of us. as we are mid discussion, one of the potential tequila investors, this fat white girl with a cute-ish face starts talking to me, and telling me how tequila is bad, and the last time she had it, she spilled it all over herself.

I encouraged her to try again by saying something like:
“well we will see if it happens again, lets test your theory, yay science!”

Her: “You want to pour tequila on me?” and as she said this she gave me this ‘fuck me’ look

Me: (catching on but not really believing it) “sure lets do it!”

Her: “Ok well I have a table up stairs(suggesting privacy) with some beers if you want to…um…” stops talking, freezes body language, and just looks at me and waits for my response.

Me: uhhh hahahaha(nervous laughter)

:open_mouth:

needless to say i just changed the topic. she came over and tried to talk to me again later after i had had a lot of tequila, but i didn’t change my position.

I thought that was a pretty obvious hit. the only thing I’m wondering, is if adding the TUTH made it that much more noticeably sexual. I mean she really propositioned me there.

the night before without TUTH, i had girls sitting on my lap, and one asked if she could switch me with her boyfriend, and was serious about it, others were drunk and off to the side brooding about lack of attention from me…

With TUTH, this one was hey lets go upstairs and, you know…

I need to test this mix out again. I really 2 great nights in a row with these mixes.

your thoughts guys?

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quick report here.

ammo x1.5(first spray half missed, i have the worst aim with togo bottles in history)
20mcg betanol

This time, a slightly lower dose of ammo as i was going to an afternoon event. I dropped the p83 to see if i noticed any huge differences as well.

I would say yes, but i’m still unsure how different they would have been regardless of p83. 1 girl told me my hair looked cute today and asked me if i had a haircut recently. I hadn’t, and also hadn’t even taken a shower today. I’m not saying it didn’t look good, but it was more bed-headish than usual. maybe helped the comment, i’m not sure.

a girl i was in the friend zone with(own fault) but told her how i felt, moved on, still friends… was rather touchy today as well. kinda wish i had worn that p83, I feel like i would have seen some more obvious things going on. she just broke up with her bf literally the same day i spoke with her about liking her… I’m pretty sure she’s not attracted to me, but i do think i played a part in her break-up…(it was one of those relationships that was waiting to die, don’t blame me)

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i’ve been doing more playing around with ammo in conjunction with other mixes. i’ve noticed the following. p83 amplifies it, but only when i wear A314 along with it too.

wearing A314 and ammo gets great hits as well, but the combo of all 3 seems to be where i get girls doing strange things for my attention. lately my daily mix has been

2x A314
1xammo

yesterday, I was wearing this combo while at lunch, i waved to this cute chinese girl i had never met before, but she knew my classmate who i was eating with, so she responded very friendlily. everyone else left, but i pretended i wanted to finish the food i had(i didn’t) and changed tables to sit with her. finished eating and we headed off to a coffee shop together. hung out until she had class about an hour or so later. she asked me for my number, and left for class.

called her today i noticed a definite decrease in her willingness to hang out, but i’ve been workin’ on my game! (reps to wayne elise)

convo went like this(it was all in chinese, so i’m translating and paraphrasing a bit.)

Me: hey HB8.5!
her: unnnnnggggghhh
me: are you sleeping?
her: just resting my eyes(its 9:50PM)
me: wow so early! can you wake up for me and talk normal?
her: ok
me: So did you miss me?
her: (laughs) no!
me: what are you up to
her: just resting, i was just at the gym blah blah

(a little back and forth here)

me: so what are you wearing?
her: (didn’t hear my question and interrupted me half way through that didn’t make sense/garbled by bad connection)
me: wha??
me: whatever, you have class tomorrow night?
her: nope
me: wanna come hang out at(shopping center with things to do place) with me?
her: (pauses) idk, call me tomorrow and we’ll talk about it. i don’t know what i’m doing yet.
me: nope, no can do. i need schedule stuff in advance, i’m a busy guy
her: (laughs) ok what time?

kaCHING

me: 6PM
her: ok thats fine

in retrospect as i write this down i can see a few mistakes i made here, mostly in my only asking questions, but in my defense it would have been easier if she was talking slower and wasn’t mumbling. I had a good story all ready to tell her, but she was tired and difficult to talk to, so i just figured i’d let her get some sleep.

the point was, she was much more into me yesterday. today, on the phone, she was more distant, tried to push me away a little bit by saying she wasn’t sure if she could hang out. tomorow i’ll be wearing this mix:

A314 x2
Ammox1.5
p83 20mcg

it will be interesting to see if she perks up again once near my pherocloud.

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made a post about this in the main discussion section but so you don’t have to go find it i’ll summarize.

mix:
A314 x2
p83 x 20mcg
ammo x 1.5

follow up: hung out with her, went ice skating lots of touching. went to dinner and went back, lots of touching no kiss.

she freaked out, said she had problems with her last bf and doesn’t trust guys now. asked if she could introduce me to her pretty friends instead. i refuse. I tell her she doesn’t know me well enough. she changes her tone, calls me 4 times asks me if she can treat me to dinner. i tell her i’m too busy.

today she texts me saying she misses me, and asks me to tell her when i’m free so she can do the dinner thing. i tell her i’m at work and text her sparingly.

planning on going out with her tomorrow.

still thinking about the mix.

option 1:
a314 x2
Bnol x20mcg
IO x2

option 2:
IG x2
IO x1
Bnol 20mcg
ammo x1
p74 x25-50mcg

how would you guys feel about adding IFM to these mixes?

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I have a new girlfriend, i just had the ‘what are we’ talk last night.

In the chase, i used a lot of Instant Gentleman. over the last few weeks this mix has jumped onto my radar in a big way. She told me 3-4 times over our first dates how i had a daddy vibe, and then would attack me with kisses. It seems i might be on to something with this mix. none never seemed to add anything to it with this girl. I tried adding ammo, TUTH, and just plain chemset none, and noticed no helpful effects, and some hesitancy to move forward in the relationship. the day i stopped the none, things were just easier and less tense.

So, thanks to all of you who helped me out in my other thread about getting this girl. I now have a new girlfriend who I am really excited about, and somewhat less importantly to me but more importantly to you all, a nice new test subject.

As was recommended by a few forum members, i’m taking some days off from pheromones with her, just to let her get used to my usual stink and also to observe her uninfluenced behavior patterns. I’ll be back with some more reports soon!

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Hey man, that’s great! I’m glad to hear that. I think that might warrant an (cue studio audience) ‘AwWWwwWWw~!’ :smiley:

See you when you get back. Enjoy!

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Thats Awesome Perronec! Good for you man! :smiley:

Stay in touch with all of us.

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so now that i have a new girlfriend, I feel I can comfortably lay down the androstenone, and try some more, if not mellow, than simply less sexual mixes. In other words, for the next week or so I’m just out to make people smile.

My primary mix i plan to get a good grasp of over the next few weeks is MX200. I think there is a lot of gaps in the knowledge about it, and i have a full bottle, and I’m taking it on myself to figure it out. So far, I’ve noticed and have posted that girls(mostly asian, although i’m not sure its exclusive) became smily. Certainly a social mix. I’ll report as I go.

other products that i am considering for the next few weeks are:
IFM, IG, IS 1:1:1 hopeful effect=:stuck_out_tongue:

p83, p79, p74 1:1:2 hopeful effect=:o

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I fully agree and I can’t wait to hear your results. :smiley:

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Congrats on the new girlfriend. I really wish the two of you the best.

I am also glad to see that Instant Gentleman came through for you. It is greatly under-estimated in my opinion. Have you ever read through my thread for married guys? I think several of the main ideas work in a lot of situations, esp. the fact that a lot of young guys try to “push” the issue with 'none whereas a lot of young ladies back away from it and the guys would do better with more social products.

I would be thinking heavy Instant Honesty or beta nols and lots IShine right now. And stick with the Instant Gentleman. I have some intersting posts about it.

But I am also very interested in how things work with the MX200. Wish I had a better idea of what was in it. Just recently saw a post that talked about MX203. (Thanks to the person who dug that one out!!). I may order a batch in my next order coming up here soon.

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MX200. I’m pretty sure its doing something.

before, due to quotes of “asian persuasion” i figured it would have an effect on Asians similar to none. Its not that at all, and to be honest i feel silly for allowing other peoples posts to influence me so much in what i was looking for.

at 1 spray i didn’t really see much, but i wasn’t really sure what to look for. At 2 sprays, i did notice some things:

on GF
my GF would touch the spot i sprayed on my neck a lot. we would be making out or whatever, and during time that we weren’t kissing she would just be running her fingers over that part of my neck. She wasn’t extra turned on or anything, nor was she noticeably different in other ways. she was just touching that exact part of my neck.

2 sprays on guys night out

I’m trying to look at this mix as a completely unknown mix, so i should be testing it in all situations with all kinds of people. including guys. I’m sorta happy I did, because i noticed a difference. subtle, but there. I noticed some leadership effects on myself. my friends would stall while making decisions, or sort of whine at me about where they wanted to go. I would simply get up get another beer, open it and announce that we weren’t leaving the restaurant yet. they would laugh and submit. “aw fuck you perronec(laughs)” that kind. then we just stayed for several more bottles without further whining.

then they wanted to go back to my friends apartment because there was a desert there, but mine was much closer and it was 2AM. i just went into a store, bought some chocolate and said “i’m going to go make desert in my apt. you guys can come if you like” at first they said noooooo. and didn’t follow me. but after 5 or 10 seconds one of my friends came sprinting after me.

anyway, that night i wore mx200 x2 and i got my way. and people did what i wanted eventually, and sometimes with reluctance but always with a smile and a laugh

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wow 100mcg does seem like a hell of a lot. I usually wear about 30mcg but would be interested in trying 100mcg. Do you get any kind of reaction at 30mcg or do you just have a incredibly high fresh hold for the stuff?

I was thinking of trying 100mcg of p74 with 2 sprays of ammo or turn up the heat but I’m unsure if 100mcg of p74 will be too much of a buffer and take away the sexual edge of the none. Have you tried a similar mix? I don’t know if going so high with p74 will give me negative results but I guess there’s only one way to find out.

Good luck with the GF, BTW.

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Yeah, 100mcg’s of P74 is a good time. I remember the self effects being buzzy and uplifting. by itself, lots more of the extra giggly moments. more closeness. With A314 and shine, people are climbing over each other to meet you.

I applied mx200 at 3 sprays, and organized dinner with my US friend from kentucky. I found myself saying more things that sounded like “just do as I ask and trust me.” I definitely noticed a more leadership words escape my mouth. 2 times don’t make a pattern but it seems interesting.