I really like the idea of an all-in-one product like Ammo that you can apply and then leave without fiddling around with tons of bottles. The thing is: My tolerance for androstenone is dropping and it seems I’m already slightly ODing with two sprays (at least I’m sure I OD’ed this last weekend with two sprays only). That’s not a problem with buildup, because I’m not using -none products often. So, P83 is said to have -none-like sexual effects without the negative sides.
What do you think, would it be a good idea to have an Ammo-like MX, containing Alpha-Androstenol, Androsterone and P83 for the sexual undertones?
@Jas
If some stuff like this already exists in one of those mysterious MX, pm me!
I think it would be interesting. Obviously we would try it out in the MX series first. I’m not sure that it would trump the effectiveness of the -none version, however, cause I personally don’t feel that P83 is a sexual pheromone. At least not in the same way.
It seems to be a mood, sensuality enhancer to me. Whatever your desires you have at the time, whatever mood or environment you are immersed in, it amplifies it. I don’t mean mood as in happy, sad, horny, etc. I mean mood as in sort of the tempo/aura of the situation. Social mood, seductive mood, depressive mood, etc.
The reason why it appears to be a “sexual” pheromone is that P83 seems to be better at enhancing the more primal mammalian desires/emotions than the more complex/cognitive human ones. It will mildly effect a social situation and possibly help everyone involved enjoy themselves more, but if the mood turns at all sexual, then P83 grabs hold of that energy and amplifies it. Unfortunately it also seems to enhance negative emotions if they happen to surface.
Hmmm… reading back over this, it almost seems like it’s kind of a passive -none. It will enhance the same things -none enhances (with the added eroticness/sensuality) but it doesn’t create those feelings if they’re not already there. -None can and will create sexual or dominant “big chimp” style energy even if it wasn’t there before. Hence -none is more active.
So, it might be a good option for people who OD easily on -none… but it still might lack the old version’s attention-grabbing qualities. -None kinda says, “Ay! Look at me! I’m sexy and I can smash things.” Which is really the point of AMMO… to be attention grabbing (albeit more friendly than just raw -none). P83, on the other hand, is more sneaky and conniving.
Lol. I’m not gonna vote on your poll cause the answers are too bi-polar. I’ll go with a, “It sounds like a good idea… let’s see how it plays out.”
Ah dunno, it’s pretty easy to buy chemset androstenol and androsterone and mix with P83. Add Nautica Competition and it will smell just like Ammo. Pour the entire concoction in an atomizer and it’s just as convenient to use as premixed Ammo. I custom mix nols and rones with Nautica Competition to match Ammo’s scent. Only takes couple a minutes to prepare and it lasts for months.
Ammo without androstenone wouldn’t have much mass appeal. I wouldn’t buy it.
I think its an interesting concept, however, I dont think P83 acts as a -none replacement. Personally I think it would work well with P83 as an addition to the current components. Strengthwise I have no idea how much is required.
Hello Bubblebob!
Thank you for this poll! It’s very interesting. I’m one of those that thinks that “AMMO” is “AMMO” and we’d like it as it is, but I’d like the “P83 Ammo” as a MX. Yeah, I’d be very curious of trying that. It’d be great if Jasmine (Hello Jasmine!) told us if already exists a MX like that!
Well, it would be a mix for people high in androstenone naturally. So the -none wouldn’t have to be in the mix, it’s provided by the individual in doses that are high enough already… I guess low -none people would profit from the normal Ammo version more.
I agree. Ammo does have a pretty strong scent, I would love to see a toned down and maybe even an unscented version.
As to replacing the None in Ammo with P83, I believe that would take the punch out of the product. But maybe they could concoct the mix and call it BB or cap gun. Actually naming it something along the lines of Encourage might be fitting.
To each his own. Sometimes you love a product but hate the scent. I don’t care much for AE’s scent but liked the effects. So I whipped up a clone outta chemset components and added by fav cologne. However, concerning Ammo’s scent, I have gotten nothing but compliments from both men and women.
what is the purpose of no none. Lets get back to biology 101 Testesterone is the male sex hormone. Without it men would be phenotypically women. No testosterone means womenhood by default. I jsut dont see the biology of it. Please explain sex without testosterone, sexual or social aspect or not makes no sense.
“Not ready to fire off the big guns? A little apprehensive when it comes to breaking out the Ammo in the battle of the sexes? Try our new product, ‘Paintball: In the drunken practice round with your buddies before the Battle of the Sexes!’. Half the punch and twice the mess! She’ll never know what hit her!”
I’ll go with a, “It sounds like a good idea… let’s see how it plays out.”
Actually naming it something along the lines of Encourage might be fitting.
