Petition : Instant Female Magic back again !!!

Instant Female Magic “This pheromone is great for calming and easing women’s moods. Women have been known to become cuddly or clingy when exposed to it.”

Hi everybody :slight_smile:

Instant Female Magic is a great product and … It’s Damn effective !!!
Unluckily it has been discontinued.

I want to have the support of other members in order to have it back ! :smiley:

Hey admins, Will it be possible to offer Instant Female Magic again?
( You could show a warning of the side effect even though i never experienced it…)

The problem isn’t only with the depression that some men might experience as self-effects from this product, but also that some will use in massive dosage JUST to make other men around them depressed.

And of course the whole issue with A1’s use in scented products being patented. Which is why you can but chem set A1 but no fragranced products that have it as an ingredient.

I still have a bottle of IFM. I only use for PMS emergencies. Doesn’t do much otherwise (other than stink).

IFM´s scent is not for the fainted heart !

It´s sad that AD doesnt produce it anymore but there´s still some A1 available at several sources which workes well !

hope this helps a bit …

Pago

I believe the patent on fragrances containing A1 has expired. There are a number of scented mones containing a1 currently on the market at this time.

AD decided not to offer the product because of the slight chance that it would cause depression in some men.

Personally, I’ve found it amusing to wear high dosages of A1 after building up a tolerance. It does make men who aren’t used to it very tired.

Kinda evil.

See :smiley:

Could exactly be the reason why AD stopped making it

and getting stuff shipped to India from lovesent is such a pain :frowning:

Its exactly because of reports like that! In that aspect, I’m glad hoplessly posted it because it just reaffirmed Michael’s position.

Sadly, No “A1” from Here means those (with Good Intentions) have to Find a Respectable Source Elsewhere for a Single Product… I’ve Only heard of Two Places… LS being the One heard the Most… No Fear, You Guys Still get about 90% of my Purchases…

I’ve worn both chemset A1 and IFM around men many times and have not noticed any signs of fatigue or depression. Of course I use a fairly low dose of 1 or 2 drops of chemset A1. That’s enough to lighten female PMS moodiness and I don’t want to waste such expensive liquid. REalize Dial magnetic also uses A1 (probably a very low dose) and I have not heard of any negative reactions from it or Realm (W). If you take or use too much of just about anything it will prove to be bad. Carefully measured small doses of A1 are normally safe for everyone.

Well you all knew I would have a mouthful to say about this LOL

There is not just one reason they dont sell it. Its a accumulation of reasons and they had to look at all those reasons and make a decision for the good of there business.

First the patent…

No the patent is not up until June of 2012. Its a 10 year patent.

United States Patent: 5272134

Other companies who are selling in a scent base as a pheromone enhanced perfume or cologne are breaking the patent law. If they dont care about doing that you have to ask yourself what else dont they care about doing. AD never sold it in a perfume. They used Clary sage for a cover which is a herb. It didnt smell good. Even though technically its not in a perfume base Erox could claim it is, risking a legal battle that AD doesn’t want to participate in. AD is a good company they want to play by the rules.

Second …

This is not a scientific research company but a pheromone marketing research company. They contribute a great deal to pheromone technology but what they do is find the best pheromone formulas so they can make effective products for the consumer. They cant use A1 in a the advanced test mixes and with the black outs and cost of certain molecules increasing and the economic climate its not productive for them to buy, sell and test a molecule they can not use in a mix.

Third…

The reason its not sold as a single molecule. We all see it here. People using huge amounts of pheromones not as a test but on a daily basis as part of what they wear. High doses of A1 can cause depression or a down feeling in males. Of course high doses of any pheromone can cause problems IMO but A1 is more volatile then the rest. There are reports of men experiencing this as well as one report of a child (lor’s) that had a bad reaction to it. AD is not in the business of spreading depression and negativity. They are in the business of selling products that bring about positive moods and interactions.

So for all those reasons A1 is not sold here. The risk outweighed the benefits with this particular pheromone. They sell plenty of other pheromones that calm and comfort women here.

I cant say that I believe the story of certain women using it to deliberately make men depressed. I have been around the pheromone scene a long time and this is the only place a occurrence like that was ever mentioned. I think that statement had more to do with AD being upset with a certain group of people but thats my personal opinion and its besides the point.

You can get it elsewhere and use it in your own scent and at your own risk. If your smart, mindful and use it responsibly you should be fine. If you have the “more is better” mentality I would skip it.

Dial magnetic does use it because they came to a agreement with Erox. The dose is low and manageable. Because of the nature of the product you cant really go over board with it causing a dosage induced negative reaction. Dial has to much to lose, they are a big company and I am sure they have done there research on safe dosing.

Natural attraction sells it in there products. They are Erox. They control the dosage. They know what they are doing.

These other fly by night companies with cheesy websites you see selling it in there product are just throwing together a bunch of pheromones without rhyme or reason. They are in it for the money alone and have very little knowledge of what works together, the acceptable safe dose and what each pheromone does in conjunction with other pheromones. They just slap it together and put a half naked hot chick on the website to convince you this will get you laid and thats that… Sex sells and people go for it. They make there money and you end up out $80 bucks with a low to moderately effective product and a bad opinion about pheromones.

Tisha

Well that sucks that it has those kind of effects…I was wondering where it was when I’m reading old threads where people are saying its such a great product. I use the Dial and don’t notice any negative effects

Androstadienone is not the only pheromone that has the potential to negatively influence mood or behavior. Or even the one with the worst potential. So using this line of reasoning to rationalize not carrying A1 is inconsistent logic.

For example, androstenone has been shown to cause fairly unpredictable affects on both males and females. It can increase aggressive mood and behavior in males. It can be either attractive or repellant to females. These have been shown in scientific studies, plus the forum has plenty of anecdotal tales of heavy -none mixtures causing fights or near fights between men at clubs, and angry or otherwise negative moods/behavior in women (as well as more positive outcomes).

I understand the legal issues here, but the argument about it being a bad product because it causes negative moods in males just doesn’t seem like a sound argument.

Also, the word “depressing” and “depression” has been used in a way that makes me think that people do not understand the difference between clinical depression and a transitory mood depression. If there was evidence that a product contributed to clinical depression, that of course would be a whole different argument.

I can understand your logic too xev, but the world doesn’t happen in a lab either :slight_smile:.

Regardless the founder of this company has decided NOT to sell it based on what he describes as bad people using it for bad purposes. It was about intent: http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/instant-female-magic-men-31856-3.html

I’ve tried A1 alone and in combination with quite a few other molecules, at doses ranging from 5mcg to 100mcg. So far, I’ve experienced only positive self-effects and other-effects.

For reference, Gegogi’s post above about chem-set A1 refers to a 1mg/mL solution in ethanol, so two drops contains approximately 100 fast-diffusing micrograms (probably equivalent to about 150mcg with DPG as a fixative).

Steve, nothing in my argument requires the real world to be like a lab :slight_smile:
Please don’t start seeing ivory towers where there are none. I can assure you I live in a regular house made of brick.

I do understand that and I have read that thread recently (though I was not reading the forum actively when it was originally posted). I am just offering up a pursuasive argument for whatever it might be worth to anyone (or not).

Also, just because Michael Harris has made his mind up, does not mean that the rest of the readers of the forum have, so regardless of whether the company owner cares to hear an opposing view, others may be interested in it.

With respect to everyone here

Why are we going into this conversation again?

This is just like beating a dead horse, AD lets reports, albeit not counting for RU status, here on the forums and even lets mention of where it can be bought.

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/876/dead20horseifm.jpg

LOL woman were abusing it? that’s just evil :open_mouth: