Is this some kind of test??
Hmm ok then i will spill the beans but i don’t know if this dilemma can be solved out> It is about a girl ok how i can explain this hmm well i hated this girl before so much as she played me out before well this is what happened to me yesterday i was at the club where she is working Zouk that is, well i saw her & i inform her about my birthday on this Sunday & i noticed when i called her, she come to me in a very friendly & nice manner which sound fishy to me there as she have been very hostile to me before. When she heard about my birthday after i told her then she ask me is there going to be a celebration then i said yes, there will be a celebration at a restuarant.
All of a sudden, she was very interested to go for my birthday celebration which i was stunned there for a while well she was not even interested before. So she ask me to sms her the details of the restaurant & i ask is it the number that she msg me before & she say yes. I smiled & she smiled. I said ok & i ask her again if she got anything on & she say it’s fine just msg her the details. Oh yes she msg me when she saw my message to my big brother in his cellphone. I was just msging to my big brother about how’s his day & ask him if he want me to drop over at the club. Her message consist of she telling me it’s her & she asking me if i’m coming to the club.
Well i’m still puzzled & confused by her attitude well about the msg, giving her number by msging me (which i ask her before but she was hostile about it) & her friendiness, being so nice to me there & not to mention the flirting looks that she give me which is weird there. She was not like this before i swear. And well it seems i didn’t get the girl i targeted (remember the portuguese girl) but the girl that i hated is attracted to me. So now i’m thinking if i should ask her to go to my birthday celebration so that is my dilemma there should i ask this girl that i hated & plus she play me out before. And please think before leaving any advices there? Thanks ![]()
Note: She was very hostile to me before i start wearing pheros and this girl is a Spanish Malay Mixed.
Phatsounds, you have to think about what you want first. Do you want her to come to your birthday?
Now maybe she just wants to eat at a nice restaurant or has another reason, or, maybe she does like you a little after all. You’ll never know which if you don’t invite her.
If you like her and want her to come to your birthday you’ll just have to take a chance. You should not let fear or revenge stop you from getting what you want. If you want her there, invite her. If you don’t, then don’t.
First she hates you. Now she loves you. Where’s the problem?
When you were in grade school wasn’t there a girl that you teased and tormented and pulled her ponytail because you liked her?
She has liked you all along. She just has a funny way of showing it. You should torment her in return. She’ll probably like it.
You know that you could have saved yourself from the oil treatment. This could have all been done by grabbin’ a handful of nuts.
Buddy you got a couple of good points that you said there. Well honestly speaking i’m not sure if i want her to come as i know her character & she did play me out before. So for now i’m thinking whether i want her to come or not & it is driving me nuts here.
OoohYahhh, it 's not that, she play me out before so could you understand that is it fishy that she is all nice to me all of a sudden? Btw i need the oil treatment for the dilemma i’m facing right now.
Don’t be too quick to judge what she is thinking or what you think she was thinking when she played you out before. OoohYahhh makes a good point maybe she thought to tease you or play hard to get before.
Well, good luck it’s a hard decision. Be true to yourself first! At the same time don’t be afraid to take a chance.
OK, well this invloves a bit of game playing, but what I might very well do is NOT invite her. Then the next time I saw her at the club, I’d wait to see if she initiates a conversation. And if she does, and if she asks why I didn’t invite her, then I’d say that I sent the sms invitation just like she asked, but never heard anything back. Now it’s on her to make the next move.
I usually don’t play these silly games, but if a woman plays me first, then all bets are off.
Invite her, and ignore her during the whole party.
It’s win win.
I think you are a little too heavy-headed there… What do you have to loose? If you like her and want her to be there - invite her. If she starts ‘misbehaving’ you can simply choose to ignore her at your party… If you don’t want her to be there then don’t invite her…
Hmm thanks guys for giving all your good advices
I really appreciate all of you guys who have replied & help me there
Ok i will wait for Lady Tisha advice as well as the others who have not given their advices yet. As for now i just think carefully what should i do.
I might have been a little premature. Maybe she’s a tease and then again maybe she really is trying to set you up. But Tennant hit it on the nut. It’s win-win.
Invite her for sure. Make a big deal about the invitation. Make a big deal about her arrival. Annouce it. Introduce her. Hug her. Kiss her. Let her get a good whiff of the pheros. Rub yourself on her so she carries your scent around with her.
And then back away and STAY away from her. Remember, this is your turf, your party, you are surrounded by your friends, and you are in control of the situation. No Doubt.
Posible outcomes:
A) She really is a tease (concious or subconcious) and this will make you all the more attractive.
B) She really is trying to set you up. In this case you frustrate her enough to set off the trap prematurely without being drawn too deeply into the ambush. If this is the case it is important that you draw her out while you are surrounded by friends. You and/or they can laugh it off as as a joke. If you are wounded, i’m sure there will be some young lady nearby who will salve your wounds.![]()
Either way, it’s win-win. As long as you find out her game before she leaves the party. Can you say Wingman? ‘Hello come in - Earth to Wingman - come in.’
May the pheros force be with you.
Reps to OoohYahh and Bob. I think they’ve got a good plan.
Ok if i invite her to my birthday celebration, what pheros or phero combo should i wear? Any good recommendation there? This is to make sure i’m prepared when i meet her.
A bit of info about her> She is very classy, straightforward & hot. She like to wear elegant designer clothing & pendants like those high end branded ones.
Note: i forgot one part of the story just now, ok my big brother told me that she was in a bad mood before i see her but as you can read there she was very nice to me there. Weird right?
1 or 2 drops A314 if you have it OR 2 sprays IG
You have 4X IH if I remember so 2 sprays. That will encourage her to show her true self by her body language if nothing else. Remember though it will work on everybody else including YOU as well.
It’s your Birthday so use as much Ishine as you like!
Ok thanks buddy, so you mean 1 or 2 drops of A314 or 2 sprays of Instant Gentleman, 2 sprays of Instant Honesty 4X(correct buddy!) & a lot of Instant Shine if i want. I have noted your recommendation down thanks again ![]()
Hello Phat
Whats this a birthday celebration and I am not invited, I guess we will have to celebrate here then.
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OK my advice is dont read to much into what she said. Give her the info about the party and act like you dont care if she comes or not.
If she shows up let her do the chasing and you mingle and have fun at your party. Be nice and polite to her and dont play games your above that but dont let on if you have any interest.
You ever been fishing Phat ? Its sort of like that, You want to dangle the bait in front of her a little until she strikes and then you reel her in. If she doesn’t strike just think of it as practice and have fun at your party. If she does strike its up to you whether you want to reel her in.
Personally if it were me, I would reel her in then throw her back ![]()
Tisha
I agree that you may be thinking a little too much. The most important question is do you want her there? It sounds like you do, but you are concerned about her hurting you again.
So if you do want her there, invite her. That is the easy part, the hard part, is how will you approach the situation once she is invited.
There two ways to play it, closed handed, and open handed. You can either invite her, and see if she’s willing to take your lead socially, or you can isolate her to see if she’s wlling to ask for your attention. Which plan is honestly up to you. My personal choice would be to be friendly and open with her. If she shows up and causes a ruckus, just cut her out with no apologies. That way, if it works out, you’ve got a cutie by your side, if it doesn’t you just showed your friend you won’t put up with her BS. It also fully reveals her nature so that you do not need to second guess yourself anymore.
The reason I would choose those actions is to see how she will act, if given the freedom (and thus showing her character) and there’s little chance of blaming me. (I invited you, I welcomed you, and you act up? You’re just immature, but if I invite you, ignore you, you have some justification in being annoyed at me.)
Keep in mind that is just what works from me, and I am far from a exemplary PUA. I operate in a different way. Most likely, you do as well. So take my advice with a grain of salt. I wanted to add also, that there is a subtle difference between ignoring someone and being too busy to pay attention. Make sure if you do go ‘closedhanded’ then don’t ignore her, just have too much fun to be paying atention to her specifically.
IMO, the pheromones you wear will not be important, certainly not as important as the mindset you bring to the table. I know a girl that tells me she’ll call back and almost always forgets. I don’t get mad over that. That’s the way it is, I just know not to put too much weight on her arrangements and have no reservations on flaking on her at any moment for any reason. That way, there is no stress over the way she is treating me, and I still get to enjoy her company for the reasons I enjoy it.
That being said, I don’t know what I would wear, probably a drop of A314, maybe some p83, lots of Shine with some Honesty, a dash of p74…annd I dunno, maybe a hint of -none. But that’s for me, you should probably stick to what has worked for you and keep it simple.
Finally, I guess the only other thing I can say is that, perhaps we don’t mention this because it implies a lack of control over our destiny, but context and timing is really important. Some people can seem rude or unfriendly if you catch them at the wrong time/wrong place. I am an asshole, I am a dick, but only when the situation calls for it, and if you catch me in that moment and that is your only impression of me, then that is all you will know me as, despite the fact that I am not that kind of guy. So consider that maybe you saw her on the wrong night and that today is better. There is no doubt that the fact that it is your birthday is exciting, but who cares? Don’t block yourself from the goodies life can deliver. So far, life has forced me into an uncomfortable position in order to gain something I want.
Want a good body? Workout. Want good grades? Study. Want money? Work. Want girls? Take risks. What do all of those have in common? They are all uncomfortable, they are all necessary to succeed.
Phatsounds, I’ve mentioned this before, and I may be completely incorrect. If so, sorry. But I propose to you, that you start embracing the unsettling feelings, the uncertainty, the confusion. Learn to be comfortable in it. When something bad happens, don’t hide your wounds until you are ready to let the doctor see it, expose yourself in your rawest moment. It stings like no other, but if you can do that, and look at yourself when you are at your most vulnerable, you will not feel vulnerable in those situations later.
Pheromones, girls that are bitches, guys that are dicks, friends that are fake. Life will throw them at you, and can certainly throw more at your (financial ruin, physical disability, etc) From what I’ve seen so far, it’s not where you start, it’s not what you have, it’s what you’re willing to do to get to where you want to be.
Plans, talents, connections, all that glitter and glitz aside, it is execution that gets the job done. Execute, execute, execute. All those other things help you execute, but your chain is only as strong as the weakest link. Make sure you are not the weak link.
You make everything happen, pheromones or not. If you want to enjoy your birthday, DO YOUR BEST TO ENJOY IT! Don’t let others scare you into having a bad time, or limiting yourself. If anyone asks what you are doing, just say, it’s my birthday! whatever the hell I want! They’ll probably want to join in. Have fun PS.
Oops sorry Lady Tisha
, don’t say like that you are welcome to my birthday celebration & also the rest of the guys here too
Man really i wished i can invite all of you to come & celebrate with me but well we can always celebrate in the forum ![]()
And good advice lady Tisha, i will take your advice into reconsideration
And about fishing, i have not done that but i know what you mean there
Seriously i don’t wish to do something bad to her if she have not hurt my feelings in the first place.
And Lady Tisha do you have any phero/phero combo recommendation for me?
I really coudnt agree more with what you said. GREAT POST !
Oooh maaan - pheros, your big brother for a wingman, and at your own party! Can it get any sweeter than that?
Slip a fresh chip in the camera phone. I want to see video of when this comes down.
Remember:
This your tree and she is just another squirrel tryin’ to get a nut.