pherojack's journal

To-go bottle are very handy and portable. You can put even several in one pocket! They are about 5ml and that equals about 40 sprays in total.

On the other hand, the blue bottle is 30ml. It has about 200 sprays in total.

Answering the “power effects” question, one spray of a togo equals about 83.3% of ONE spray of the 30ml bottle.

Hope that helped and anything else, just ask away :slight_smile: !

2 drops A314 + ~3s IO 1x from togo. put one drop in neck and then second in wrists and rubbed it between both of them and then to the neck.

Went to a hookah place just to chill with some friends. Had the respect vibe… the buddy buddy treatment is minimal though. Had few glances from chicks here and there but that’s kinda the norm. I’m just extra sure now that 2 drops is overkill for me. for the first hour or so I had to force myself to have fun and enjoy the company and the environment. mood lit up by the end (about ~3 hours later). at the bus people didn’t bother sitting next to me even though there was no seats left… I had my hands to the empty chair next to me but they just hesitated so much to ask me to move. I even saw this hesitation happen with this guy when he was about to sit but i guess he just gave up :smiley:

A314 sweet spot: 1 drop and THATS IT :smiley:!

I also started working out in the gym + I assume I have high testosterone levels (facial hair grows really quick, etc…) so I think i’ll go easy on -none and -rone… might even just want to stick to socials.

I’ve been going to the gym lately… really relaxing and feels great! Especially after some nice pool time + sauna!

Being in sauna doesn’t make you feel sore which is AMAZING :smiley:!
I really don’t bother putting any mones when going there for obvious reasons but might try sometimes.
Anyway, I’ve read “The Game” by Neil Strauss and “The Venusian arts handbook” (Mystery Method).

I feel like The Game was an interesting book and all by seriously I think I’ve personally learnt nothing from it except that anyone could be a PUA if you get to it and being a PUA is about getting laid and not maintaining a healthy good relationship. Interesting still but wouldn’t recommend it if you are looking for specific steps and ways to improve your game.

Now Mystery Method: very very good book that I think most PUA nowadays take as their base. Seriously a lot of the PUA stuff available in the Internet is just Mystery Method but relabelled and put in a different way. Hell sometimes it’s the same exact advice when they tell you it “can’t be found anywhere else”!
I find that the “building comfort” phase while switching a lot of venues will be hard for me to follow for obvious reason. Also I have no clue what C3’s location would be.

I think pheromones + Mystery Method will be really enough and if not more. I downloaded his DVD series and I will watch it.

I also read “The Crash Course” before all of these books. Umm.. can you say Mystery Method refined? It just divides everything Mystery said into paragraphs with a little more emphasis on each section. A couple extra tips here and there but nothing abnormal.
I have downloaded but still didn’t read/watch a lot of materials:

  • The New Breed by Paragon Project (Crash course writers)… There are two books: Inner Game and Outer Game. Each are 250 pages average. They suggest however to put the crash course to practice before reading these two so I’ll guess I’ll just keep it aside for now.
  • “Rules of the Game” by Neil Strauss or Style. A lot of good reviews online so I’ll make sure to read this and actually APPLY it after watching Mystery’s DVDs. It’s a 30 day improvement program type of thing
    -“Cocky & Comedy” by David DeAngelo. Good & bad reports. Might be because of the price. Might want to look at that if applying everything I learnt is not enough or lacking that aspect.
    -“Approaching Women” by David DeAngelo. Yet again just like any of his work.. good & bad reviews. I believe he puts a lot of emphasis on inner game when it’s supposed to be about pure outer game… will see how things go first before watching that.
    -“body Language” by David DeAngelo. THAT I might watch.
    -“Double you dating” and “attraction isn’t a choice” by David DeAngelo… I think these two are just repeated shit to me and seriously not worth my time.

Any comments on this is appreciated.

Done watching Mystery’s DVDs… All the material is thrown EVERYWHERE between the 5 discs… I really think there was a bad job editing and putting this together.. gives cool indicators and tips and hints. I would recommend this for anyone who is willing to get better at that field. watching him perform routine and some of his stories really gives you a good idea about how things should be said/done . Very good for me.

Downloaded and watched bits of the first DVD of david deangelo’s advanced tips and techniques in dating.. and I must say… I don’t like his style at all. Way too long to get to the point.. just like many stated; so much focus on inner game. Watching him after watching Mystery is day and night difference for me personally. Mystery’s way is way more interactive and straight to the point. DVD 1 is about an hour and a half.. 30 minutes watching and I’ve already disliked his material.. at least about outer game that is.

So far I’ve read/watched:

  • the Game
  • Crash Course
  • Mystery Method or The vensu. arts handbooks to be specific
  • Mystery 4 discs.. not too compelled to watch about seduction (last disc)

I might give Magic Bullets the first edition a read due to good reviews online.can’t find second edition anywhere. i’ll try to apply and go out there and actually start approaching since it’s mystery method but refined. I read a review where someone said Mystery Method & Magic Bullets complete each other so I figured why not? I’ve skimmed through Magic bullets and I seen some interesting sections such as “Day game”.

will also read Rules of the game by Style if I feel like I still need things step by step or something lol.

So this is where its gunn start. my journey to become a smoother guy with women :slight_smile:

Read up to chapter 8 in Magic bullets (MM refined).
My thoughts: it’s more structured than MM. The author makes sure to include alternatives to many aspects of the game, especially when there are many variables involved. It’s more structured in terms of “You should be doing that then this.” type of thing. I find that enthusiasm in the book is however lacking to some point (may be I liked Mystery’s DVDs so much :stuck_out_tongue:). Examples aren’t always practical and lack that extra “make sure to say/do that when you say a comment of that nature”.
Up to the point that I’ve read (chapter 8, right before Comfort btw) I find that the writer puts so much emphasis on being “natural” without going more in depth. From opening to attraction to qualification it should be “natural”… MM gives more tips in his books about having several topics to talk about and what kind of stories and such, for example.

I would say this book would complement the slight lack of organization in Mystery Method.. in terms of what to do in what situation but for more in depth explanation about every phase and such I would pick MM over it ANY DAY.

Take into consideration, I’m not even half way through the book and I’ve actually just realized there is a whole part of the book called “Skills”. May be that would completely change my mind about what I said.

On the other hand, there was an information session today in the gym that I went to about volunteer work.. I applied 2x IG from to-go prior to entering the room. Hot blonde checked me out several times but didn’t get any chance to interact with her and I see that she is a dumb bitch anyway, lol. Had my hopes up but only 2-3 girls are present (10 guys) and ONE girl is attractive. one was way too young and the other is UMMM… let’s not talk about it :stuck_out_tongue:.

I haven’t pre-signed and they were supposed to call me before the session..still the lady was more than happy to assist me. That volunteer coordinator lady was REALLLYY giving me respect and the only word that was in her mind about me in “gentleman”, seriously. I tried to befriend a white guy sitting next to me but the coldness in his face is priceless lmao. 'm not sure he might be a robot, or some kind of alien… or even worse racist. I don’t know. On my other side I took the guy’s number later and we hit it off pretty cool even when he was standoffish kinda at first.. I thought IG was like “i’m really cool guy, talk to me” type of molecule but by itself I don’t think it’s social enough. Mind you I’ve been going to the gym so may be my natural -rone & -none are at peak that they need buffering? I’m not sure.

Two chicks from hong kong (they barely speak english) were also assisting us and they are FINE. They were digging me very very well (IOIs) and everything. I even struck up a conversation (she had a full smile on btw :smiley: LMAO ) with the easier going on but dammnn these chicks can’t understand me for shit. lol. Overall, gentleman is really the ULTIMATE description that I can give to this product and NOTHING else. Might be too gentleman for people in my age to dig me socially though. Am sure a lil IS and IO will be more than enuff. Man, it’s like I’m always too compelled to go with heavier (-none/-rone) products when i’m socializing and DEEEEP inside I know that socials just by theirselves are gunna do amazing! Otherwise, i’m very pleased with the experience.

Hi, Pherojack.

I was wondering if you have used p74+p83+p91 combo again .

I´ve used it a couple of times but not been able to figure how it works exactly. Would you say it´s an attractive mix, or just a good social/respect mix?

Are you using it again soon?

Thanks.

Talk to you soon.

Actually for some reason i was thinking about that mix today :open_mouth:

I didnt use it since I’ve mixed it… but I will as soon as I can.

Read my last report for exact dose used but the mix was just AMAZING. I will use it and report back.

Great!

Somehow, i think there´s something i am not noticing when using this mix.

I´ll give it another go on monday. Waiting forward to hear your experiences too.

Thanks.

Talk to you soon

what’s the age of girls you are testing this mix on? what was the dosage you used? and where did you use it?

Hi, Pherojack:

p83 (10 mcG) + p74 (10 mcg) + p 91 (10 mcg) -> I got a very friendly conversation at the gymn with 3 girls, aged 18 to 25, but not any kino or blatant hits.

Only DITH from an underaged girl, too underaged, by the way. She was looking at me with an open mouth, and saying a bunch of nonsense, kind of funny if you ask, but kinda weird also. I remeber i was thinking “What the hell is going on with this kid”.

I remember somebody here (i think it was the Gentleman) reported the same thing with a very young girl, and somebody else (almost sure it was Steve) suggested that older girls are more used to hide their reactions.

I guess i should test it a couple of times more before deciding about it.

Anyway, thinking about that day, i remember every girl at the gymn (it´s a really small one, so that means 5 or 6 girls) was staring at me when i walked in, but i didn´t pay much attention to them, as they were not that attractive.

I would say that’s an impressive and a mix that worked amazingly good with you my friend!
No matter how good a mix can work for you, congruency is still essential. IF you were looking for that mix that will get you kino easily without doing anything from your part, then you’re out of luck. You are still the same person without pheromones, it’s just pheromones creates “OK paths” in people around you.. it’s up to you if you want to walk on them or just be happy that pheromones creates these facilitated paths.

I guess you are right.:stuck_out_tongue:

Definitelly, i should try it again and see what happens.:smiley:

I´ll keep you posted.

Talk to you soon.

Had IS & IO both double strength with me all day yesterday..
Day started with church mass.. then bbq outisde. applied 2 sprays from each but you know how much i hate church environement and will not be even lookin for girls hits or anything even if i know there was some.. was kinda boorin but its okay.

later on went to eat and chill and watch basketball game with some friends… very easy going and a guy which I really hated before is actually befriending me so much and willin to do me favours.. everythin was so smooth and i had a blast!!
wow i never knew socials could be dat fun and so simple just by themselves… im actually willin to grab ISHINE 4x.. dillute it in 2 bottles 2x each and use that everytime im goin out! its really that good.

even though i got not all of girls in my current social circle right now I’m just feelin greatt not being forced to deal with girls in my school or my church.. :slight_smile: just staying out of annoyin girls that will neg me a lot sometimes just for the hell that im never going out with them.. i also learnt that friend-zoned girls that will lead nowhere socially aren’t worth it one second of my life even if it means ill die alone :smiley:

ill try my best to cold approach and start meetin girls from what ive learnt from all the books ive been learnin.. still need to figure out some things out and i might even make a new journal to track my journey in cold approaching and such :smiley: this is will be fun

Magic bullets isn’t endorsed by mystery and has nothing to do with him.. in fact mystery had law suits and conflicts of that nature about that and his website taken over by Savoy.
I’ve read up to 2/3 of the book. of course there was a lot covered in mystery method but put different way. however i find little tips here and there that are nice to know.

on the other side, i’ve just realized something.. i’ve been reading up all these books which focuses mainly on night game a.k.a bars and clubs game a.k.a something that I’m completely unable to do right now.

i’ve learnt a lot from these books however. i’m sure some day ill thank myself for readin them.. this is what magic bullet made me discover.. something called DAY GAME. you see magic bullets puts emphasis on stuff that isn’t actually explained or put emphasis at all in mystery method.. that’s why i’m going continue reading it even though i feel like im getting sick of it repeated shit that im reading.
for example: dates. in Mystery method, not much is said about dates except that it builds comfort and you should take the girl with you doing something more practical instead of the traditional coffee, movies and drinks. in Magic bullets there is a whole chapter for that with examples on where you should go and what to do during a date… i liked the hint at the end where it said “i’ll pay this but you will be for that later on” .. this is the type of details that you will enjoy in magic bullets hence why im continuing reading that book… not reading rules of the game by neil strauss (30 day prgram) since i would rather concentrate on day game material than waste my time on night game material that i wont apply.

actually, i think im done with “Magic bullets” by savoy. may be ill go back to it for reference.

speaking about mystery method, the most updated version that anyone should be lookin for is called Revelation The Venusian Arts. It is the most updated and neat version of Mystery Method. I’m so tempted to read it even though I know all that has nothing to do with day game now. it is about 320 pages.. it has got a lot more neat and organized now.. there are charts and sample on everything you should do from opening to kiss closing. no seriously Lovedrop did a fukin great job at putting this together. this is the book I should of read. oh well may be will if i got the time for it.

also mystery has new dvd series called the vault sessions. it is 5gb btw.

to make this easy for people who are just starting out:

General Game (focuses more on bars/clubs environement):

  • Revelation the Venusian Arts by Lovedrop and Msytery. (ebook)
  • The vault session by mystery (8 dvd set).
  • rules of the game by neil strauss (30 day program. life changing as many describe it)
  • magic bullets by savoy.

Day game:
-Jeremy Soul ebooks

  • Sinn day game from a to z mastery program (audio files.. about ~3gb)

personally, ill read day game material now. then i’ll start a journal called “Pherojack in his Day Game journey :slight_smile:” . pheromones should give me that boost especially that the weather been so sexy lately during the day.

Solid advice. I appreciate all the effort you put into posting and offering up your experiences. As always another great report.

thank you Steve for the comment!
Today’s report:
Gym again. this time I drank coffee before going and it’s an AMAZING BOOST.
I sprayed 1 spray from IJ to go in wrist and rubbed it between both. Respect and strong presence. Put me in a great mood too (may be the coffee ?). everytime I wouldn’t feel motivated enough to complete or even start my third set.. today I did the complete three sets with enough energy to do more afterwards! Nothing negative would come in my head like everytime. IJ will be my friend when going to the gym from now on since 1) it’s not the best product for me when i’m out socializing 2) it puts me in a good mood for gym.
o and i swear i felt like i was sexually stimulated when I was sniffin the app points. there wasn’t any other reason why this could of happened (no hot chicks around or anything) so just wanted to include that..
that’s it for the report.

downloaded the Sinn day game mastery program.. apparently it’s all audio files with 4 videos of his approaches. also downloading the vault session by mystery.

reading Jeremy soul day game ebook right now.. it really suggests in the beginning reading Magic bullets first.. so I was like.. :smiley:

doesn’t seem bad at all up to now (just starting).

How did you come to that conclusion? :stuck_out_tongue:

Because here is the situation (or may be just mine):
almost all the girls I’m sure i’m friend-zoned with (well i’m sure about to 90% i’m FZ… there is some attraction going on, but I doubt it will be easy to steer it to something deeper) aren’t really socially outgoing.. they wouldn’t introduce me to their friends or anything when sometimes I do and I hooked a couple of them.. so fuck that lol :smiley:. i’m expanding their social circle and they aren’t doing the same to mine. Whatever the reason why that’s happening I’m just sayin that I’m not willin to keep up with girls of that type. That’s exactly what I wanted to say :slight_smile:

Makes sense.

Read up to chapter 6 (approaching) in Jeremy Soul’s book. Here are my thoughts:
He took the module in Magic Bullets as his standard and suggests so many times throughout the book to read it for more details… so much that I’ve felt like I need to go over it again :smiley:.. seriously though, it’s got some solid good advice for day game. when applied I see this working like a charm.
It of course tells you practice and courage are needed but it seriously take off so much of your shoulder by BREAKING DOWN everything that should happen in a conversation (up to what I read, opening and transitioning). Reallly good book so far.