I put on 3 or 4 sprays of instant openess (to go) arrouch my neck
1 spray of ammo on left neck 1 spray on riight neck
started walking to the subway.. no reaction. Then i got onto the subway and i still got no reaction. Its as if i was being ignored… then i got to university and came to the first class…and people who i know and am good friends with who are usually happy to see me were just like " hey man what up" (in a positve way of course but not like normally it was) (weird too)
then after class i noticed a girl i went to higschool with sitting and came up to her and startd chatting to her how and why she is here… then her friend came up to talk and she introduces me to her friend.. then i sat with that glirl her friend and two more… Thought i did noticed the friend i was introcduced to was veyr nice around me and before my 2nd class i said good bye and got her number and another girl who sat with us.. the girl i was intorduced you said it was very nice meeting you
(so weird, using the game i easily pick up women than today(where i just met people) , but i thought the ammo would create some attraction so i could skip dhv or that the instant openess would have some approach you but non of that happened
( but no approaches from anyone to me from instant openess)
also didnt notice any attraction from the ammo)
If you read through the threads, you’ll see a trend of every time someone expresses those same feelings, they are reminded that it’s 10% mones and 90% you. These aren’t magic portions, they’re tools like a new shirt or a hair cut.
Keep in mind that just because you don’t perceive any sort of benefit that it’s not there. Imagine if one of the girls you just met has difficulty remembering names, but the next time she sees you she remembers it because of the slight extra boost the AMMO gave you in her subconcious. How is she going to feel about you?
I’m not saying that AMMO helps people remember names…I’m saying that you are making a different sort of impression than just posting a pic on “rate my hotness”.
Have fun, experiment with different amounts, try each product by itself. Most of all don’t give up you’ll get something in time that will leave no doubt!
It’s virtually impossible to OD on Instant Openness, 3 or 4 shots at 1X concentration really is like nothing. Three or four shots at 2X is my base line application…
It’s important to keep in mind that the effects of pheromones are often times VERY SUBTLE sometimes a hit is eye contact being held slightly longer than usual, or an extra smile or what have you. It took me months of consistent pheromone usage for me to be able to notice these very slight hits.
I know it’s hard to believe it after reading this board where people report on all sorts of amazing and blatant hits. But you have to realize hits like that are exceedingly rare. So just be persistent with your pheromone usage, keep track of what and how much you wear it might take a while but if you do that you should be able to find your sweet spot with various products. But the key is PATIENCE, believe it or not this stuff can take a while to truly get the hang of.
You cant OD on IO as SC mentioned but some people to get a spaced out blank look reaction when they wear to much around people. Not saying that is what happened here but its possible. Thing is they usually snap out of it as some point.
How old are you maybe you had on to much AMMO ?
What SC mentions about the blatant hits you read about, its true. Keep in mind to that those reports are from some people who have been using mones a long time and have learned to work them to there advantage.
You will learn this to, it just takes a little practice so dont get discouraged.
So … I’m wondering if you turned around or lingered to notice reactions from people, or if you did anything to initiate any interaction at all. If you just walked, then how would you know whether the people you passed reacted?
On subways, on buses, in elevators, people are the most “guarded” in their responses. Perhaps it’s ‘stranger danger’ that’s operating, it’s cultural. In Japan, the crowding on a bus might be so tight that your nose is in someone’s armpit, but neither of you acknowledge that so you can both keep your “personal and private space” intact.
When I get even a subtle uninvited hit on a subway train or bus … I know it’s a solid hit, because the person typically has ~deliberately~ let down their guard.
But there are ways to make yourself approachable on the subway/train/bus … without scaring fellow passengers.
Now, that sounds to me like your friends did notice something different but they didn’t respond in just the way you might have expected.
Well, you were in a set and you got positive regard (phone number, nice meeting you) from two girls. So perhaps the ammo was assisting you in your natural ‘game’ and you’re not giving credit.
IO is not ~ever~ going to attract people to you in the way I think you mean, not directly. In fact, when people realize they are being very open to you, they might “shut up” for a bit because they give themselves a little scare and they wonder why they are being so open.
IO can create attraction … and curiosity … because ~others~ see you interacting socially with people being very open with you, having fun – it’s validation. Spend that validation currency while it is still “warm” … the laugh and flirtatious looks you get from A might be just the thing to open up B who noticed your interaction with A and wondered “Hmm, I wonder what she sees in him …” or “Hmmm, I wonder what she’s got that I don’t.”
Pua does help with game a lot to who ever said it does not
I did look around for reactions but i guess i was expecting something more or maybe again im not used to these pheros
but then again i would have normally got those phone #'s from the girls without the pheros.. i think its common in colleges when you meet somone for them to give your number.. and i did spent an hr with these girls walking around with them.
About the subway thing … I dont understand why i was ignored.. the subway was empty really.. there were people but all spaced out so theres was plenty room to sit by me???
also i dunno why my friends that dont know why my friends that are happy and cool with me acted just plain and like oh , hey man .. after a whole summer of absence when i returned to see them.. ???
thanks to those who did responde .. please keep them coming …
btw after you can answer those please tell me HOW TO GET THIS AMMO SMELL OFF NOW … the whole day ive been smelling it on myself. upon first application it smeelled good but after some times that nice smell went away and now i just smell weird smell from it (maybe its the actual pheromones) … I tried soap but i still smell it … (is it maybe just in my head) … because noone says i stink …
(By the way can the problems i had with the pheros today also be because A) it was 90 degreez hot and B)its a spray and spays dont time release long as oils ??
It could be but its more likely you just used to much. Try scaling back a bit. AMMO has some anol in it plus your using IO wihich is anol based so I am thinking its a spacing out reaction.
Too much Ammo for your age - stay with one spray until you do some experimenting with it …
I would cut the IO back to 2 sprays.
The headache may be because you loaded up so soon and had not grown accustomed to the new neuro-load. Some people do get them at first - especailly if they apply a lot of pheromones right off the bat.
Exactly - if they are bothering you - move them away from your nose, hold your breath while you put them on, keep them away from your nose while they are drying down.
Less is More is a mantra you used to hear a lot here because it is so true, especially when starting out. Problem is a lot of new people read about these mixes more advanced users work up to with a lot of trial and error and immediately want to be there too …
