pheromone fried rice

I’ve been keeping up with your journal off and on whenever I have time. Your current situation sounds very very very similar to mine. Asian, dating a really really pretty white girl :slight_smile:, then long distance situation, the talk, the talk part II and so on. Things didn’t turn out so well for me and I really can’t offer any advice on your relationship but I honestly and truly hope that it works out for the best.

It’s kind of scary and cool at the same time because I’ve gotten similar results that you did with MX203 and MX200. MX203 worked extremely well for me, AMMO not so much, MX200 was a bit tricky, but generally MX203 and A314 worked well.

EDIT Actually I thought of something. Keep in mind that when she’s long distance, pheros are out of play. =/
I believe thats where I went wrong with my relationship. Too reliant on pheros to smooth out any conflicts instead of talking about them.

that’s a very good point. it’ll be like a double test for her: how she deals with me not being around, and how she deals with no pheros around. i can’t say i’ve gone as far as using pheros to smooth out conflicts; i use them more to create exciting bonds and feelings (203, 292, ammo, etc) and maybe i’ll throw in ifm on her off day. when i go, the main thing missing is of course me. on top of that, there’s the phero sensation that only i can bring. she knows what cover scents i use and it might bring her some comfort to borrow some from a guy friend to smell, but we all know it’s not quite the same.

as i mentioned before, we’ll give it a shot and see what happens. we’re both mature enough to know when to call it off before things get too rough.

did some random stuff with pheros since i last posted… brought out 301 and 302 again to mediocre results, tinkered with some ptives and couldn’t really get it quite right. i think i might go clean as much as possible this week; next week is our last week together and i believe i’ll be able to make a better impression then with an off week beforehand.

probably my last day this week of using pheros and i come up with a very solid and life-changing hit, read about it here: it's not always about the target (three magic words)

it hasn’t quite hit us yet. we were pretty uppity yesterday, for good reason. always need some time to cool down and let it all sink in. we get less busy near the end of the week so i think we’ll have some good time to have a nice conversation.

enjoy the week. i’m buried in books. :roll_eyes:

casting call for pheros last night. the “i love you” thing sat on her mind all day after it happened. she slept alone later that night so she could rise early and get some work done. in present time i found out she was so restless that night she had to take matters into her own hands before she could fall asleep. maybe she does that sometimes/often, i’m not sure, but i do know this is the first time she’s ever spoken about something like that. last night she asked to come over and then asked if we could have “good sex.” i know what this means. my friend got a copy of benjamin buttons so a few of us gathered at my place to watch it. (good movie but long, make sure you clear your schedule before watching it) after the movie she lies down on my bed and i sit next to her, giving her a pseudo massage. she complains about it being hot. i tell her that after everyone leaves, she can remove some clothing to cool down and then i can give her a better massage. she looks at me sternly and says “but i want to take off my clothes now.”

well shoot. i thought i knew what she was talking about when she mentioned good sex but that totally blew me out of the water. i quickly asked my guests to leave; all of them read my face and left with a smile. i return to sarah and she has already removed some clothing. i grabbed my bottle of lotion knowing full well i wasn’t going to use any of it. yup, casting call for pheros.

backtrack. before she came over for the movie, i put this on:
1s tuth left side neck (where she rests her head during movies)
.5s tuth lower stomach (eh… for good luck?)
2s p83 back neck
2s ih back neck
1s ammo back neck
1s mx201 and mx272 front neck

tuth and ammo to set the tone, p83 and ih to drive it in (p83 also makes her get naked really fast), mx201 and mx272 to even things out so we don’t burn too quickly and fizzle out.

by now you’ve probably read enough of my posts to know what happened for the next 2 hours, with an encore review the next morning. she wanted that “deep connection” associated with the 3 magic words and i gave it to her with the help of pheros.

i’m starting to rediscover the joys of p83. that’s always a fun thing to do with pheros.

don’t mean to be intrusive, is “good sex” a code word for slow and sensual ?

you’re fine (regarding being intrusive). my journal is fair game for comments and questions.

“good sex” means just that, though it is more of an internal term. we live the life of busy college kids and can’t always have proper time for ourselves – sometimes there will be guests in the next room and we have to keep it down, or an exam/long day beat one of us up, etc.

when “good sex” is brought up, we take care to set the tone for the night. i get the house cleared out and prepare some music in my room, she’ll check her wardrobe for stylish outfits that are also easy to remove, and we’ll both get a lot of rest beforehand. instead of our usual hour or so together, we’re good to go all night.

sorry for the lack of updates this week. we’re all just sitting around waiting to graduate. sarah has been with me practically every day. in the daytime i’ll use some ishine or cttm. at night it’s a simple shot of mx203, sometimes mx200 if i’m going to be around others as well, one night i layered a shot of mx292 for kicks.

starting next week sarah and i begin our long distance thing so i’m trying to “wean” her off of pheros gradually. it’s going well so far; there’s a bit of comfort knowing that when she does whatever she does, it’s out of true attraction that pheros helped me build.

new goodies, check my sig.

school is out, sarah has moved away to work at her summer internship, so it’s just me. i’m trying to get out and be social in order to keep up the testing. while i’m limited in gf time and shindigs with the party crew, it opens up a new range of testing like malls, libraries, etc. should be a good summer.

quick entertaining note: sarah is on vacay for the week with some of her friends. she stopped by a perfume store to spray some dolce & gabbana light blue (for men) on herself. she knows i “use” this because i leave my colognes out in plain sight and my pheros hidden. however, i only used colognes back before i started pheros, which coincidentally was the same time i started dating her. after that point it was all game, neroli, and akuto. i may have covered a few times with light blue or acqua di gio, nothing significant though. anyway, she sprayed it on whatever she sprayed it on and tried to take in some of the scent to stir up some memories of me. when she called and told me this she said “well, it kinda smelled like you, but i just didn’t get that same feeling.” i was thinking to myself “well duh, i could’ve told you that.” :wink:

back from memorial day break.

new thread here: p74 and a review of spray akuto

looks like we’re going with p74 first.

slow phero times for me so here’s an update on my life.

things are going great with sarah. i think the p74 really got to her. the first day she was apart from it she got very nostalgic about the time (aka the previous day) when i wore it. she spent a long time recounting the good times we had at lunch and getting ice cream, basically felt very connected to me. the last time i saw this was with mx203. i think if i could test this constantly around her it would greatly help my relationship.

on a non-phero note regarding sarah, we’ve gone through our “feeling this out” phase, our fighting phase, our whatever phase, now we’re easing in and becoming a more established couple. really the only thing we haven’t done is meet the parents. we’ve got some good short term goals, a few long term goals, and we’ll see where it goes from there.

i started a new-ish training program. as some of you gym rats may know or understand, i plateaued hard with my last program. kept doing the same thing over and over. eventually i stopped seeing results, then after not seeing results, i stopped working out. bad bad bad downhill run. for my new program, i studied a few existing programs and mixed and matched to create my own program. the main point was to have a wide range of exercises to keep things fresh. i also found a good group of some old friends who i can work out with, instead of going solo like i did at school. most importantly, i’m away from all the junk temptations of school now, mainly drinking, drunk food (the worst), bad food in general, etc. you can lift and run all you want but if you still eat like crap, you won’t see results. my first round was wednesday, felt the soreness yesterday, today it’s really kicking in. i like this. :slight_smile:

aaand that’s all.

big props to jessejester for a very altruistic offer on his part regarding a trade for mx320. i declined, but it’s nice to know there’s some good people out there looking out for each other.

the reason i’m up right now (currently 3am, up since 1 or so) is that i got off the phone with my gf on our daily call and she said something that should be a natural phrase (“because you smelled really good”) but my paranoid head twisted it into something else. i was paranoid because earlier this week i had a hunch she knew about pheros. long story about her seeing me with something in my hand, then a few minutes later the bathroom and i smell like spray akuto p74. whoops. then on tonight’s call she said she had a lot of sexual tension at new year’s (our first time with pheros, and i was wearing an od mix from another thread) because i smelled really good. i thought this was a dead giveaway that she knew: she found out about my pheros, maybe did some research online, connected the dots, knew she was attracted to me because of the pheros (that smelled really good), linked it all back and said she was attracted to me because i smelled really good.

self inflicted paranoia. in order for her to know about pheros, she would’ve had to dig through my luggage and then put everything back. i trust she’s a decent person who wouldn’t do that. also, i remember her planting her face in my neck on new year’s to get a good smell of my scent, and she’s complimented me many times before on how nice i smell. i basically spent an hour freaking out and then another hour talking myself down and being rational again.

i need to get to bed.

what an AWESOME day :smiley:
6.3.2009

10am:
i was in the middle of my workout at home and taking a short water break. for some reason i decided to get up from the basement and walk around the house. i generally don’t do this because when i walk around, i walk past the computer, the cell phone, the tv, etc. bad bad. anyway, i’m walking around and i see the fedex truck parked outside. nobody is in or around it so that most likely meant the guy was walking up to my house. i head to the door and sure enough, through a little window by the door i see him coming up. i open the door right as he’s about the place the envelope down. i think i shocked him a bit too. i made some corny joke like “oh, great timing, huh?” and accepted the envelope.

boom- mx320, ig, free gift of come talk to me (mix 1), also a toblerone (my favorite out of the chocos i’ve gotten so far). i’m very interested in this come talk to me bottle. when i was doing my research for cttm2 i didn’t come across anything for mix 1. truly testing this one blind.

3pm:
used the first half spray of ig and went to the mall. nothing incredible to report. i do need to go back tomorrow and actually get something but i think cttm1 will be a better test phero for that.

dinner:
not phero related (i only wore 1d a314) but it turns out a friend knows the owner’s son’s gf or something crazy like that, and dinner and drinks were comped. nice…

after dinner:
i’m checking email and i see a gc in my inbox. weird, i think, i don’t know why i got one. the sender is “androtics direct” and i missed the message earlier that said “we love you too, man.” off to the forums i go. after some hunting i see that jas sent me this gc because she was touched by my “first intro” thread. wow! :stuck_out_tongue: what a great way to top off a great day.

i’m not particularly tired right now but i want to go to sleep so i can get up tomorrow and start testing. it’s like christmas morning. whoo :slight_smile:

come talk to me mix 1 test 1
6.4.2009

so yesterday i thought the mall would be a great place to test cttm1. guess not. seems like there’s not much talking in malls anymore. i tried to chat up the salespeople but when they’re busy, there’s just not much you can do before you become a nuisance and keep them from helping other customers. people in the walkways are always bustling and on their phones. i’ll keep this in mind for the next cttm1 test.

Product name,scent and strength
cttm1, neroli, strength assumed to be standard

Application dosage and locations
showered fresh
1.fhs (this means 1 full and the first “half” spray that always comes out) front neck
3:30pm

Time exposure began
3:35pm

Appearance
spring fresh. flip flops, nice shorts, colorful polo.

Environment tested in
one store that i needed to go to in the mall and then various random stores

Self effects
yep, it’s neroli. i cooked some food on the grill today so maybe my nose is still a bit smoky but i think it’s a weird neroli. not as “neroli” as my neroli ptives or any of the instant products. however, except for mx315 (which smelled bad to me all day), many times my nose gets tricked by a new scent, even if it’s neroli/game, and then it normalizes the next time. we’ll see. no other self effects.

Effects to others
nothing out of the ordinary. sarah wanted to get something online but there weren’t many sizes available. luckily there’s a brick and mortar store near me so i went there to check and ask around. her size was not available there but it was available at another store a few minutes away. during the five or so minutes i talked to the salesgirl she didn’t seem overly chatty, nor was i. straightforward and pleasant business-y answers: no we don’t have it, sure i can check, etc.

4pm
then i head to the other store. the item was being held at the counter for me and since it’s a girls’ store (and not like VS) i really had no business wandering around so i went straight to pick it up. two salesgirls helped me out, i think one was in training. pleasant help, a few laughs, friendly smiles. again, nothing overly chatty.

things that make you go “hmm…”
so i’m two tests down with positive, but not conclusive results. the targets are friendly, i’m not feeling aggressive or anything, but the air of chattiness is not there. perhaps the friendliness and laughs are the hits, and not so much the chattiness? it’s only 1.fhs so i have a few more days to try it out and hopefully in a better location, but i don’t want to miss the hits if indeed they are there.

4:15pm
went into a men’s store. they had some shirts on display in various colors. one was a very bright yellow. definitely an eye catcher. i took it and went over to a bored looking salesgirl. “is this too bright on me?” she said she liked it. i turn around and hold it up in front of me in the mirror. turn around and she’s already back to leaning on the counter and looking down, perhaps at a watch or cell phone. put the shirt back, browse, eventually decide to get a white shirt. she rings me up and i try to joke again: “decided on this white one, maybe i’ll come back tomorrow for that yellow one.” a slight giggle from her, maybe she looked livelier than when i walked in, but through it all i could see she was still bored and/or tired. not a good test subject there but still a good experience.

Duration of effects
~5 minutes each store, assuming the hits were there

Effects from mixing with other products
n/a

Range
mix carried about 10 feet
hits, if any, <=3 feet

Time of exposure
~10 minutes each store

Many people in the world are on autopilot. They will give the conditioned response expected of them unless engaged in an out of the ordinary way. So if you’re talking to a salesgirl, try asking about her personal life and engage her in a way that she has the opportunity to speak in-depth.

This could allow you to see the effects of the mix much clearer. Engage and lead the conversation to compliment your testing.

yes, it’s the blessing and the curse of malls. when i need to get something and go, the autopilot frame of mind is perfect. however, when it comes time to test, i forgot how hard it is to get people out of their rut.

my attempt at this in the test was at the random store i went to with the yellow shirt. i think that could’ve gone somewhere had the salesgirl not been so tired or bored. she lacked the enthusiasm of the other girls but was still very nice so i figured she was just having a bad day.

working out while signing up to go work out

a new branch of a gym opened up by me so i decided to go sign up. they offered some sort of “summer deal” which is exactly what i need; when i go back to school i can use the gym there.

showered fresh
1s p74 10 mcg front neck
1s mx200 front neck
1:30pm

a bit of spray akuto, a bit of game. i smelled awesome. i know a bit about how general salespeople work and figured they would bring out some stacked hottie to do my paperwork (and sure enough they did) so i wanted a nice social mix with a bit of sexual edge in there. also i like the scent combo of spray akuto and game. not smelling like every other guy at the gym.

i had been to another branch of this gym before and really all gyms are fairly similar; the big difference is the location of things. i wanted to put on the “easygoing veteran” vibe, both for phero purposes and to get it and get out. by this i mean i wanted to streamline the process by allowing the salesgirl to skip the formailities and get down to business.

1:45pm
i walk in and there’s two hotties there at the front desk. one is checking another person in so i go to the other one. i say i want to sign up and was prepared to turn my swagger on when she gives me a form to fill out and says she’ll call someone up from sales. bringing in the big hitter, eh? i get done filling out the form and turn around when i hear heels clacking on the floor. this absolute dream is walking up to me (not above 30, blonde, hb10 on a “done up” scale, hb8.9 on a normal day). good thing i prepared for it. normally i’d freak. not this time. p74 keeps me stable, gives me a “suave style” vibe. mx200 keeps my social presence up.

we say hi and she starts walking me back to her office. her professional style of dress was one you could only get away with at a gym, a tanning salon, or a strip club. my goodness. high heeled peeptoes, tight pants, colorful and very low cut top (i could see the underside of her breasts. seriously? at work?), hair and makeup done like she was going out. i saw some salesmen in the hallway and another salesgirl in her office; same drill – the guys were all clean cut and tall and handsome and model-ish, the girl was similarly fashioned as my salesgirl.

now we’re in her office. she tries a few of her techniques – bending over to work on papers, etc. two things she doesn’t know: 1. i’m already sold. i walked in knowing i wanted to sign up. no need for those tactics (your jedi mind/boob tricks won’t work here haha). she must’ve figured this out later because she was filling some stuff out on the computer and forgot to turn her screen back around and in the box that said “potential” or something, she marked the highest. and 2. i can’t fall for her tactics. doing so would blow my sig. luckily she helped me out a bit in this by always keeping eye contact, so i just stuck on her eyes. if she caught me looking, i would be done.

in short, i was a simple man. i knew what type of membership i wanted, how their system works (i did my homework), what all the machines and weights do, etc. this, in conjunction with my sig and swagger, blew her over. she went from trying to not trying to being totally in awe. in the end i probably could’ve sold her a membership and she’d be fine with it. while taking my picture for the id she said “smile” and hell yeah i smiled, like this –> :smiley: and this made her laugh. in point #2. technically #1 was me just being an easy and knowledgeable sale without being too arrogant (like reading webmd before visiting your doctor and you telling your doctor what illness you have). we were in her office for about 10 minutes and her desk was kinda small so she was definitely in the 6 foot hot zone for a good amount of time.

after the paperwork and formalities we went on the tour. this was the buildup and culmination of in point #3. she was trained in basic knowledge of the machines and equipment and i was able to converse with her easily. i joked with her about some funny exercises that she’s seen people do and then later on during the tour of the pool area, i joked with her more when we saw some kids not using the pool properly. when we stepped out to the outdoor pool she held the door for me, i walked out, and then she came up right by my side. buildup and culmination of in point #3.

we closed the tour and headed back to her office. i was done at that point and free to go and she was heading back toward the front door anyway. we talked a bit while walking about her job and how she likes it; it was a brief conversation but fairly genuine, not just the usual “oh yeah, i enjoy working at a gym.” we shook hands and she said “come by and see me when you’re here next time.” i’m sure she says this to everyone, but i certainly will drop by next time i’m there and see what happens. great day at the gym and i didn’t even touch any weights.

closing
still doing my p74 tests, this is just the old 1s of p74 with a layering of mx200. this is a very “warm” and slightly sexual-oriented social mix. warm in the sense that the conversation is not chit-chattery like io or cttm2, but more friendly and sensual. sexual-oriented because it takes the aforementioned sensual part and lets it sit right in front of target. a simple touch or flirty comment and you’re onto something. i.e. if we were touring the gym together as friends, i could pinch her arm and say “my, looks like you need to hit those biceps some more.” some laughs, some glances… you can imagine the possibilities.

interesting experience with 1s cttm1 and a very very very small dash of mx292 last night. i had an empty bottle of mx292 that i wanted to clean out and use for storing mixes so i unscrewed the cap and for kicks, flipped it over and dabbed whatever was left of it on my jawline. there was just barely enough for me to smell game, other than that i don’t even think i got a drop. i head to the grocery store to pick up some stuff. near the entrance there’s a girl there (20’s, brunette, looking attractive in workout clothes) on the phone and looking at fruit. i walk past her not so much to spread the mix but to get to where i need to be. i’m standing in an aisle looking at spices when all of a sudden i see her walk by, stop, turn, and then come into my aisle and stand near me. still on the phone but not really looking at anything in particular… just standing near me. from the corner of my eye i could see her three movements: look at something random, look at me, look at something random on the other side of the aisle (so she would need to turn her head and look at me more), repeat. i kinda looked over and smiled but she was talking about something personal on the phone and i didn’t want it to seem like i was listening too much into her conversation. phero hit, natural hit, or just a random girl? i don’t know. it actually creeped me out a bit so i got a spice and left. in my rush i forgot a few things, gotta go back today. :roll_eyes:

guess it’s time to update the ol’ log book…

keeping fit with my workout program still. it knocks me out every day so i sleep really well.

haven’t done much testing with ptives and such, just sticking to my basics for a while. i go traveling the next two weekends so i should have some more testing time then.

mx320 is being kind to me and cttm1 is coming around as well.

2s of meo-est at 25 mcg on each arm today for a haircut. it was my second time with this new lady. chattier than usual but i think this was because she is just getting to know me, and not familiar like my old lady with my preference of not talking during cuts. i hear the optimum dose of meo-est is up in the triple digit mcg so i’ll have to work my way up to that.

2s meo-est @ 25mcg front neck
1s mx320 front neck

just for kicks, last night at a small party.

me, another guy, his gf, and her three friends. the friends were not really interesting to me but they all seemed to take notice of me. as such, it could be for a variety of reasons: the only other guy there is taken (they did not know i was taken too), the pheros are working, both, etc.

one girl smoked three cigs in the 45 minutes i was there :open_mouth: and i felt that wasn’t really my vibe so i jetted fairly quick. for my duration there it was good times though. nice chatting from everyone, one girl kept looking at me (combo dihl and ioi), general friendly atmosphere.

i’ve taken a break for a while to get some work done but as school nears, i hope to get some more testing done.