The bottle I had was from Love-Scent, so I have no doubt as to its legitimacy. The reformulation was recent I’m sure, but the product is near useless now. Just a warning in case you decide to replace your bottle.
I wasn’t aware of LAL’s Primitive until you mentioned it in your last post. Apparently it has more -none than PI.
What’s more exciting is they have a product called Dirty Primitive. They obviously stole the name “Dirty” from AD but since AD doesn’t stock Dirty any more I have to order it from LAL. I just checked, still no “Dirty” on the AD site.
Anyway, thanks for informing me about LAL. They definitely fill in a gap in the AD product line.
To make things even more interesting PXS’s Domination has Androstanone in addition to Androstenone. What the hell? How did I miss this? I didn’t even know Androstanone existed until now.
I have a stockpile of pheromones and now I’m going to order more.
From a guy named SteveO on another forum, “So this is an oil product and its right about 30 mcg per drop 20/10 Androstenone/Androstanone with another special ingredient.”. Fuck. I hate special ingredients. NPA in my opinion was weakened by the special ingredient in it. I hope Domination does not have a special ingredient which weakens it.
I read some more about Domination and I lost interest. But I’ve been reading about Dirty Primitive and one person on another forum said a woman told him that he smelled like sex. That is what I fucking want. I want to walk around a club and have woman think I smell like I just fucked. I want them to think I’m a total player and asshole. I’m counting on my natural easygoing welcoming vibe to balance this effect out.
This is just my personal belief, but I’m nearly certain P80 is -anone. These three are easily some of the best -none products out there right now. Regardless which you choose, you win. Good luck, mate. 
I spent several hours researching the forums and googling. A lot has happened in the last year in the pheromone world. I had absolutely no idea.
Although I like Androtics Direct, I’m going to have to go to other companies for my oil based heavy -none mixes because AD does not have any products in this category.
My all time favorite combination is still Androtics products - IJ + A314. I got so many powerful hits with that combination but i could never control it. Women would get attracted to me and suddenly run away after a few minutes. No other pheromone combination has attracted women and made them run away like this combination.
I am all of a sudden interested in PXS Domination again. I hope to God the secret ingredient is P83. Through all my google searching no one really knows what really is. I thinking finding that molecule is AD’s greatest achievement.
Definitely not P83. I couldn’t even begin to speculate what this secret ingredient might be, but I can say one thing for certain - it’s not detrimental to the mix, and it does seem to add something that couldn’t otherwise be achieved using just -enone and -anone. P91, perhaps? It’s really hard to say given how tight-lipped SteveO tends to be (understandly so, given his situation and all the drama going on in the phero community lately).
By the way, excellent choice expanding to other vendors. Though I’m sure you’ll still have plenty of use for some of your Androtics products, I’m sure you’ll find the quality of mixes from HAX, LAL, and PXS to be far superior in many ways. Nothing against Androtics, but they’ve really been slacking these past few years. Still, things are starting to look much better with some of these mixes coming out lately. If you’re looking for an IJ replacement, I’d recommend SOB. Cheers
Thanks again for the warning that Primal Instinct sucks now. I’ve googled this a bit and I’ve found postings elsewhere corroborating this. You definitely saved me money because I was close to ordering another bottle. I know for a fact that my bottle I got over a year ago is decent because I’ve had some absolutely fantastic hits with it. It makes some girls think I’m fucking awesome. But now there are other sources of strong sexual oil based products that can fill the void fortunately. Thanks for your suggestions!
I’m hoping that this post will inspire Androtics Direct to some out with an oil based sexual product in the future.
I ended up spending a lot of money. I ordered all three of the following products:
Primitive
Dirty Primitive
Domination XS
Primitive and Dirty Primitive are shipping from Hawaii so I don’t think I’ll get it this weekend.
But Domination XS is shipping from Tennessee so I might get it for this weekend. It was “Accepted” by the post office for priority mail earlier this evening so there is a good chance it will arrive on Friday!
SteveO has some ridiculously quick shipping. If you’re living on the East coast, I’m sure it’ll be there before the weekend.
Always glad to help. Let me know what you think about those three, we could use some more reports on Domination and Primitive. DP seems to work well on some younger women without sacrificing its effectiveness. It’s less intimidating without being softened up, if that makes sense. Primitive is the same, but far less so with the higher amount of -none it contains. Domination is just the most blatant -none product out there. Add some Desire Me oil (cops) and you’ll be getting hits left and right. TAF, P97, and XiSt combine well with it, I find.
Androstanone is said similar to P75. -eNone with P75, A314, TAK and TAC can make TUTH or IJ viable in places it otherwise wouldn’t be good. P75 deals with nearly all male aggression. TAC is a good overall buffer, male and female. TAK and A314 seem to be buffers via social means. T A K is a bit like A1. Try T U T H or I J + T A K or T A C. You may see less resistance from women. 75, e None and T A K will have fx from yards away in clubs. They work when socials don’t (because you’re not close enough). Socials work best face to face. Not as well in large clubs. TAL works good too with A314 and TUTH. Makes women dance.
P75 is not -anone, I can guarantee you that much. If you’ve ever tried it as a single, the closest putative to -anone is P80. P75 isn’t too far off though, I agree. After having had extensive experience with -anone and some with P75, the two molecules are more like cousins than twins. If you’d like to confirm this for yourself, LAL and PXS both offer -anone as singles.