Please suggest how to react in this situations,
My wife and her friend jocks on FB, that next time he will invite her to travel with hem to the sea side. But i feel it is not a jock,
s if/when my wife tell me/ask me/ about this i could be (s**t test), how to respond. I know/see how she felt abut him?
Thanks
It’s possible that she’s shit-testing you, especially that she knows you’ll read the exchanges eventually.
I think, instead of going gaga about it, why not arrange a date of your own with her before their “joke date”?
Make her forget about that “joke date” by coming up with your own. Surprise her. You see, some men forgets to court their wives in the process of rebuilding a problematic married life. They are too familiar now with their wife, and too convinced that saying sorry is enough to mend the broken relationship.
They are wrong. Big time. And so don’t be like those men.
Court your wife. Surprise her with something that you know will make her smile. Flowers perhaps, chocolates. Dinner dates. Movies. The massage sessions can be leveled up by extra aromatic candles or anything.
Make her fall in love with you again.
Dear Dee A,
Thank you very much about your Attention.
I already did all your suggestion in the past and near past.
When i try to be romantic she seems to get disgust and loosing respect to me. If i catch her down guard with something nice (compliment or nice gest), she accepted nice, but after that make effort to, to clean the nice atmosphere. For example will nag me, remained that this gestures should be not to her but other women and so on.
Since D-Day we do not watch movies, because love scenes or similar things trigger her about my infidelity.
There is no more massage sessions, 3 weeks ago, she found on the computer a statesman’s from my self to her (aka a wishes to the destiny, like i want my wife to love me, to forgive me, to fill loved by me and so on). She said that i am freak and so on, and should ask this thing from other woman (affair woman) not from her. Since then we are in very cold atmosphere with little exception (i think this exception was when i wear IS, IH, IO and A314).
Also, she suspect about my self snooping, but i did not show any signs to prove to her. I am doing this to know to where to Friendship is.
In general my wife have mindset is like middle life crisis (triggered by my infidelity), she said that she is with me because of the KIDS, and she do not want nothing from me.
But if some other woman, show interest/compliment me - she react immediately (touch me arm or say that she is married me, because of this, or say something like comfort test).
She very often s**t test me and comfort test me.
We both have many baggage from the our past, the difference is that i know how this baggage affect our mind/behavior/feelings and take action to fix what i can, she refuse to take action about her’s, she lived day to day, and use every opportunity to distract her from her inner world (our reality), because of this she is enjoy her talking with this Gay friend or other customers of her. My concerns is that she do not understand the dopamine/oxytocin/bonding things in such iterations with opposite gender friends.
So, as you see it is complicate, but i will fight to the end, because of this i need mones (push my confident), because this situation, is from more than 3 years,and really suck me and changed my daily life (in bad direction), when i am at work i use only 40-10% of my mind to work, the rest think about my wife and thing like this, especially when there is a jealousy episode.
I will keep post here, to tel you how develop our situation, as i see there is many other men try to save their marriages.
Just to note, I do not comply about my life/situation, i have made this by my self, there is no one to be judged except me. I am so detail, because this will give better picture, to those that can propose ideas/hints.
Best Regards and thank you to all of you
Well, give her space for now. You can be romantic with her but do not engage first in any touchy-feely moves. Be conscious that she have an invisible line for you, cross that and everything in history will come back down, and she will feel pained again and your back to zero again.
So do not cross that line first. Don’t worry, if you know your wife to be a good person, she won’t replicate your wrongdoings. She is just shit testing you.
Just court her. Don’t make her feel that it’s a plan to snare her. Don’t make her feel that it’s a hunt. At the same time, if part of your plan is saying sorry and making her feel you are serious about it, do it. But do it in a way that is not overly dramatic for her.
Getting rid of the baggages is really hard. I experienced that. It will take years before the wound heals, the pain subsides, and then comes back courage to give things a try again.
Don’t get tired of her shit testing. It’s a test. She was hurt and she’s making sure it will never happen again. In a way, her being friendly to other guy is her way of coping up, another way perhaps to make you feel what she felt during your infidelity days.
So I will back up your plan to stay and prove her you are repentant guy by telling you to stockpile a lot of patience, and creativity.
And always be on time. Meaning, you have to be home after work. You have to be in her line of sight everytime you are not working. By doing this, you are not playing beta, instead, you are simply telling her that you are not missing again and playing monkey business behind her back. You are simply reassuring her that you are serious about your bid to rebuild your relationship with her.
You have plenty of things to do. Start with those mentioned above. 
So, alternately expose her to A314+IS and AMMO+IS and do not touch her. Let her make the first move, always.
And read about Instant Gentleman too. It might be a good idea to entertain IG+IS combo too as the third alternate.
You might wanna try the Liquid Sunshine too around her, for simply making her laugh and in a good mood, though it’s an MX, an experimental molecule. RE-RELEASE! Liquid Sunshine v2.0 Test Pack.
Don’t use this one at work. This is for pure fun days.
Thanks again Dee A,
Today my next order will be with me.
So i will start with 2 drops A314 i 2 drops IS
On Friday evening we will go to the seaside for one day, this means 7 hours drive total. The car looks like good opportunity to mones exposer.
What is MWF and TThS?
Currently my wife is 2-3 days before her period, any suggestions?
best regards
No sex. Don’t initiate. And don’t use sexual mones yet. That will backfire. I mean, even if she decided to give in to the sexual signals of such mones (which I think she won’t), you are just going to make her fuck you without loving it. And that would backfire.
For now, your bestfriend is your palm.
So, yeah. No recommendations.
MWF is Monday, Wdnesday and Fridayday.
OK, thanks.
There is NO SEX from 3 years 6 months.
My wife think about the sex (as pure sex), like somthing negative. so i will keep bonding and attraction mones.
Thanks
Oh. That’s long. I never realized that until you’ve told us, hahaha!
Yeah. Since you already decided to stick it out and keep her and your family, focus on bond and attraction. Take all her defenses first. Just like when you are starting out as gf/bf. And as you do that, you must make sure also that you are seriously sorry, and you must show to her that you are sorry and never will you be that “infidel” again. Again, trust is the issue here and not sex. You get her trust back, you’ll get the sex back. Did you hear about the saying “happy wife, happy life”?
I think you’ll learn much more by checking out the veterans journals such as lwatkins, justintime469, and more.
I would not stress to much and would lean more on a happy/bonding setup like IShine/IH for a while. Also either IG or A314 would not hurt either. I would use something a setup with these for a while and work on things for now and go from here. If using the IH on the car ride just remember you have it on especially if you have the AC on Recirculation because you may find yourself telling all kinds of things you may not want to.
I would use IG or A314 as you base to help her view you as the man again and a protector and provider of the family and this will help her be more secure. This should be your base for a while until you work thru things.
The IShine will make everything more on a happy and more positive note and help boost your confidence and put her mind at ease.
The IH is IMEPRATIVE to get things where you want to and it may be a painful process until things are worked out. But after they are worked out things should really open up for you both. Whatever you do just don’t go overboard overanalyzing everything and don’t stress to much, just let everything fall in place naturally, and if they don’t try not to worry to much and stress about it.
Thanks very much about the courage words.
My wife is exposed from 30.06.2017 until now on A314 oil 2-3 drops, IS 2-3 drops, IH 2-3 drops, and P96 2 drops.
A314 ears, wrists, below the nous
IS joule line
IH elbow, wrists
P96 cheeks
Exposure:
30.06.2017 - 1.07.2017- 8 hours at car, - did not see any difference, she was silent, think about other man (maybe). All day not contact other man.
2.07.2017 - at the morning she start FB chat with other man, become happy, i put mones above at 8:00 AM. She chat freely in front of me, i kept calm.
3.07.2017 exposer time 5 hour at the evening, no difference, she is silent,
4.07.2017 exposer time 5 hour at the evening, no difference, she is silent,
5.07.2017 exposer time 5 hour at the evening, no difference, she is silent,
I will continuations to put A314, IS, IH and P96.
Since i have start to put Mones, the thing between my wife and her friend escalate, they meet 3 times for coffee, and all day chat. I found that their interaction depend of his wiling to spend time and chat with my wife. She is ready in my opinion of everything what he will suggest. They flirt very hard (hearts, kisses, and other emoticons).
She is very hard hoked, i am playing calm, i think she think that i know what i see when she chat next to me (very small amount of time), but i am tracking all the time.
I think they steel not kiss/sex or say i love you and think like this.
Yester day she put additional eyelash, not because of me .
As behavior i will take (chaos kids middle life crisis approach). If i am nice, attentive and so on, she show disgust (like i am doing this because she spend attention to OM). Up to now i confronted about him 3 times, after 3-7 days slowing down, thinks go back. So i am stopping talking about it. This FB chat coffee meeting, last for now 6 months, at the moment it is like a pick, previous pick was 3 mounts ago, but it was because he was more active. I do not know what is his intention about my wife, my wife is fare a way from hot cougar.
From 2 days i step back a little, not play but-hurt but not pressure her. She ask for insurance 2-3 times (like joking that she is my luck in life, or think like this, i respond smiling yes/shore).
So i will expose her with this mones, up to the end, of the bottles.
In my opinion for now the mones (oils) do not work at all, to my wife or others, but the situation around me and in me is so dynamic, so i can correlate nothing.
About s**t test.
I is nuclear if it is a test, or it is huge disrespect/she do not care/do not believe i will do something about it/.
At last fight/confrontation, she said that there was not “US”, she is not obligate with me, and one thing she want from me is to give her peace, when she is at home (not bother her with “US” or punish her about other man).
She did not telling me when she had coffee meting with him, i do not ask either, but all their meeting planing is done by FB, and she do not lock her PC or delate messages fro now.
So, should i done 180, at home with kids i do not know what to do, yester day she said if i want to go with her on crouse trip (half joke/serious), i just say do you relay want, and that after tsunami of things that she know i am not happy.
Thanks allowing me to VENT.
Hey no problem man and we all have a story. So she is talking with other guys and if so how long has this been going on?
she is hairdresser, he is her client from 2 years, but thing go in more close i think 6 months, when day start with FB.