Pheromone products for the 'Gays'

Hey AD and anyone other person who’s willing to read this,

You’re doing it all wrong! All gay products I’ve seen online so far (including MysteryBoy) make me think that they were definitely made by a straight man or woman, when I read the description. Maybe that’s why not a lot of gay people are interested in purchasing any of them.

It’s always a huge oversimplification of how gay people interact; and sometimes, mostly, a misconception. You see the gay dating scene/sexual attraction game is as complex, if not more complex, than its straight counterpart. MysteryBoy, for example, is said to fit the “vibrant, playful gay lifestyle” and offers a “fun, youthful presence”, but wait since when is there a “one size fits all” type of courtship? Do all straight women prefer the aggressive alpha male? No. Rules of attraction differ by age and even ethnicity. For gay men, it’s even more variable. The overwhelming majority of the gay community are not into the “vibrant playful gay lifestyle”, because they’re not into the gay scene. It just happens that straight people only find gay people in the playful gay scene, which where generalizations and stereotypes about the flamboyant gay come from.

Also remember that ‘roles’ are much more important to the gay community than they are to the straight community. A very masculine gay top’s (not saying all tops are masculine or vice versa, but just going for the extreme) game will certainly NOT include being playful and colorful. You want to send extremely aggressive masculine signals instead to the ‘bottom’ who likes that raw masculine energy. The roleplay in the gay world is much more ‘primitive’ on its extreme ends and focused on raw feminine or masculine energy when it comes to sex, but it’s still a spectrum with people lodged in between. I feel that products like MysteryBoy target only one extreme, and possibly, the lower mid range of that spectrum leaving most of it uncovered.

If AD is actually interested in targeting the gay audience, it would be much wiser to do extreme variations of MysteryBoy that tilt to both sides of the spectrum, then have the current version be somewhere in the middle. Other than that, I think gay people using pheromones should just stick to their own custom-made mixes because I’m sure as hell that most of them will not be successful when their goals are so much different than what is offered to them.

Just my 2 cents

Hi Baumliebhaber … :wink:
While your suggestion is certainly valid, I think it would easily be possible to adjust a product like “Mystery Boy” to your needs with the other available products, or make a corresponding new mix alltogether. Add some rone, none or P75 to make it more sterner/masculine or sweeten it up with feminine mones or mones that are suspected to “betafy” or make you more approachable. Last time I was seriously approached by gay dudes (I’m straight and it was very obvious with my girl in arms and stuff :wink: )
was when I wore my current staple mix of IG, IS and A1 - so some distinct masculine products, but nowhere as heavy as A314, Tuth, 75 etc. … I try to achieve a charismatic/healthy/dependable vibe. Still, the two dudes were nearly fawning about how “manly” and “dashing” I came about - In your terminology I represented the top just fine, as I would consider them “bottom” (rather “tuntig” I’m afraid)
Hope that helps!

Plenty of gay guys have responded positively/with attraction to overt sexual and sexual/status mixes on me - Sometimes startlingly so, esp when something like P96 is in the mix, which seems to make both sexes feel easier about expressing any attraction. So there is certainly something in what you have to say.

In fact its long past the point where I take it as a sign that I’m on to a really good straight mix when I start getting solid responses from guys as well. TBH, many women are hugely attracted to a bit of ambiguity in a mix (challenge?) and it seems to me that the role of comfort mones become rather different here - not that they become superfluous, more that they act as emotional enablers instead.

And I’d certainly agree that the steering in MB could be very useful in more extreme/overt mixes that might appeal to more specific bands of the gay spectrum.

Exactly! Gay men are just as flexible as straight women when it comes to their taste.

GorchFork, I know what you mean by “tuntig”, but those are the gay scene dudes that MysteryBoy is directed towards; the stereotypical flamboyant gay. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re into a more social mix, but then again that is a generalization in itself. I know plenty of scene gays who like things very aggressive.

Having said that, the point of the thread is to have AD capitalize on this. I’m sure there’s a huge portion of the gay pheromone market that has remained untouched because of this. When I first started googling pheromones, I was looking for ones that attract males made for males. Needless to say, I was bombarded by ‘products’ that promise you naked muscular models or ones that just had terrible honest reviews or too-good-to-be-true over hyped ones that seemed almost too stereotypical to be real. Eventually, I got to AD through MysteryBoy, but even then I wasn’t convinced and I went for creating my own mix out of the other consumer line products. I’m just saying gays could find AD a lot sooner and easier if they had amazing gay mixes that could be easier for a newbie to spot and swallow.