Congrats Mco, just keep it up and when things seem like at a loss just take some time off to think and you’ll know what to do. I’m glad that you’re not giving up though, and yes MX292 is awesome. I keep on forgetting how great it is, and I should probably try it out again as I haven’t tried it in the longest.
Ok so just as a little rant, I recall catlord raving about how amazing the PS packs were before they came out. I recall him bringing up how most every single tester he had before sending it off to us had huge success, and even a college student who didnt get laid all that often suddenly got some every few days from PS… and now that it is out, no one is finding these same results that I am aware of. not more than the other products at least. and now, suddenly, we have to realllllly “work” the mix. suddenly now the hype of how amazing it was has turned into “well its not amazing unless you do all kinds of work”, and even then, mediocre results at best. I feel I received nothing at all after testing every bottle to the halfway mark. Very disappointing, and very risque for catlord to sell it to us as such.
Before you disregard the mix…
People have been reporting results.
You are missing a lot of key information about how androtics formulated the mixes.
As far as I know they are not the same…
Jayarea, Blade and Wildflower have all had good results with these mixes.
Of course I havent tried them, you could always send them to me!!!
I think what he’s trying to say is that what’s the point of having to “work” the mix for a mix that was praised by cat so much, and seemed to generate results without the user having to do any work at all. I think he’s just let down because the mix was so highly spoken of that there’s no point to “work the mix” if it’s really supposed to be that good. So also another thing that could be putting him down regarding PS is what about if the hits the users are getting now are hits generated by them actually doing some “work” on their own, and not even close to having anything to do with PS. Now I have actually seen a good amount of eyeing, horny feelings, and other stuff I posted on the current ones I have already tested and I didn’t do any work at all. However, so far the only one I haven’t seen much eyeing from is MX332.
I’ve also posted a few very good responses to the MX331-334 series. It does seem to be important to work them a bit more than some of the other MX’s I’ve tried. For a guy who already has some ‘game’ or is comfortable approaching a woman, they are fantastic. If you are a bit more laid back, you are better off with MX301/MX302 or MX115/MX116 or MX297. I’ve noticed a lot more women coming up to me with these but with the exception of MX297 they don’t hit as hard over the same time of exposure as (my personal fav of the group) MX333.
I did notice the rubber band effect with a waitress, however. She was REALLY worked up by one of the MX331-334 (can’t remember which I was wearing) and VERY reserved the next time I saw her. Luckily I was wearing Akuto Instant Gentleman and TUTH and she warmed back up to me. It was if she was embarrassed by the first time she’d met me and didn’t want a repeat performance.
ok, this is my first time in the journals section…only reason why i’m here is Mco has helped me out and i will try to do the same.
here’s my take..pheros do not effect others…they effect the person wearing them. how did i come to the conclusion of this aside from the studies i’ve read? well instant openness used to be my fav phero…girls just talk like crazy and usually i have them open me. cool.
recently i’ve been doing a lot of self therapy..and i mean gut wrenching what went wrong in my childhood with my asshole father kind of shit. and guess what? now i have the same results as instant oppenness without wearing any pheros at all! i have girls eyeing me, opening me, and when i talk to them..they won’t shut up.
but the question for me is will pheros help me step everything up a notch? that’s really what it’s about.
so here’s the bottom line…if u find it useful great if not, make your own hypothesis. no phero works as strong as personal improvement. if you want to see miracles..that’s where it’s at..fix yourself..whatever problems you have. and this is not directed at mco i’m just making a general statement. the other thing is the use of pheros may actually have negative effects on you…if you get attached to it like a security blanket…you might actually be coming off as insecure and shooting youself in the foot and thereby cancelling out any effects the pheros had in the first place. you follow? i’ve stopped using pheros for the time being and started relying more on myself. because i am available 24/7..i don’t need to reapply myself every 4 hours and i don’t need to be delivered by fedex.
as far as catlords mix…i have mixed feelings. having to work it sort of goes against the hype of “it does all the work for you.” but on the other hand a lil work to get laid isn’t that bad. so when this comes available again…i will try it..but i’m gonna have some very high standards…with all the work i’ve been doing and the stage i am at without pheros..if this doesn’t end up being “instant whoopee” for me, then it’s crap. the end
i’ve been meaning to post this for a few days now and i finally have some time while i wait now for my plane to get in.
i think PS is a bit of a misnomer. sure, it carried over from the old thread and stuck and sounds good, but it gives a wrong view of the product. let me try to explain what i mean.
like many other people, i had high hopes for PS. my first real test with it was 3s of 334 with my gf. i expected wall-crashing sex, sweaty crazy monkey sex. instead, i got “regular” sex. nothing too crazy, maybe only 1 new position, still the same amazing sex we usually have. before we started, i suggested we bring a camera into the bedroom, and now i have some memories of that.
point 1: think outside of the box with PS
the sex was great but normal. no panties were scorched. why all the commotion? because i merely suggested recording our adventures, and it happened. PS gets a little crazy like that. i didn’t get many good hits early with PS because i had been doing the same thing i always do. this works for the instant line and other products, but if you go with that approach with PS, you’re underusing it. i posted a similar tip here a while back about “breaking the mold.” try new things with pheros and especially PS. you might find that your limits are no longer limits.
consolidating points 2 and 3 in case i can’t finish typing on the plane.
points 2 and 3: PS seems to be more for LTR, and don’t always think about sex with PS
IIRC, catlord said something about a few ingredients in PS raising the perception of the wearer in the target’s eyes, building rapport, etc. essentially, all these good things are what people work toward in LTR. PS may not be the optimum choice for a ons, but it seems prime for a special someone with whom you would like to build a relationship.
so i just said PS doesn’t seem right for a ons, but it does help to speed up the wait time before the first sexual encounter. i think that if sex was ultimately your goal, PS could help you get it within the 2nd or 3rd date. how? keep sex as your end goal, but until you get there, don’t think about it. ask yourself, what leads to sex? comfort, flirting, a feeling of “closeness,” having fun, etc. similar to what was listed above, but in more general aspects. use these in your favor. i’ve had recent adventures with a new target, SEG, who got with my buddy literally only after seeing him two times, thanks to the comfort- and rapport-inducing properties of p96. he actually didn’t do much either; i worked the mix and then flipped the sig at the right time. now imagine what is possible with PS, especially if you are the one with the sig.
now why is PS a misnomer? in my opinion, because it doesn’t actually scorch panties (figuratively. i know it literally doesn’t scorch panties). it deepens the heat that is felt in the loins, it opens the mind, it creates feelings not previously present. it does all these wonderful things and more and then after all that, maybe close to a transition from a heavy makeout session to something more, it might catch some panties aflame.
work is needed, but once you get a hang of it, it doesn’t seem to be much more work that what you would put in to start other mixes. the hardest part of putting in the work is getting over the “oh crap, i have to work this” part.
Hit with 3 sprays 292. Me and my hall mates are out smoking hookah at around 2:00 in the morning a few nights ago. This group og girls walks by, and one stops to say hi and have a bit of th hookah, which I am the one to say yes to her (not my hookah). she says she smells something really good, and they say its the hookah smoke, and she said no, its something else. I crack a small grin. she starts looking for it and ends up on my neck smelling me. “thats it!!!” she says. well I get her number and the whole thing was about a 5 minute encounter. She texts me back next day, wants to hang out, i say we are drinking, she wants to come.
Here is where it gets hit-worthy. She lives like 3 miles off campus, and has no car. she walks all the way to come see me. She is also wearing a skirt- with no underwear on. We drink a few, talk minimally, kiss, when have wild, primitive sex I have never had before. Ive got scratches on my back and a limp in my step from doing it everywhere in my room. she was down for whatever. This was after maybe only a half hour combined time of actually being in her presence.
She comes over a few days later and we have sex again, but like straight romantic kind. she lays on top of me for a while after, and i start thinking how much bagage this girl has (I dont want to bore you with the details, but its a lot to know about someone after only being with them maybe 4 hours total). Idk what I’m going to do, she says she really likes me, but I dont really like her. I was under the impression we were just having a ons.
But yea Snoopyace, I have got to agree with you. My favs are easily 292, 116, and 301.
does this mean I am a believer? not quite yet, as I discussed before I am very satisfied by the social aspects it has brought me, but not quite sexually yet. perhaps I have to change up my game a little bit.
Be careful with those kind of girls dude, sure it’s cool having one attracted to you but once you give her the peen they want it all (relationship or else.) If you don’t give them that they will get totally pissed off at you and probably try to make your life a living hell, so be careful!
Ha! And you thought they weren’t working…
So sorry that you’re sore. 
i know mikoto- shes already trying to strangle me with it all. i need an out, and fast!
Thing that sucks, is that if you don’t come up with a good plan whatever you come up with will be hard for her to believe. Especially just ignoring her, that’ll have her heated LOL. She’ll feel used, I know in the heat of the moment it’s hard but you should have told her that you’re not looking for anything serious.
i’m happy for you man. but for me this is really not proof of pheros working to make people crazy lol. the true test is repeatability. how many times has this happened to you compared to how many times you’ve worn the mix?
hell last nite i went out and meet this cute lil girl. she was chasing after me and was trying to talk my ear off even tho her boyfriend was right there trying to smother her. what mix was i wearing? nothing.
Heh I had one of those - I was relieved when she told me that she was moving out of province… except that the day before she was going to leave all the sudden everything changed and she wasn’t leaving and was in a crisis…
I told her that my job asked me to manage a project in Kansas for a month, changed my voicemail on my cellphone to say that I was out of province in Kansas and that if they needed me to leave a message and I would call them back.
I then turned my cellphone off for a month.
(She was REALLY crazy - I am 99% sure the crisis was manufactured)
I should note I had seen her 3 times before I told her I was moving to Kansas for a month - all 3 times involved me coming over to her house LATE at night, us watching a movie, fucking, and me leaving
Ha, ha I’m sure that didn’t help your situation!
ive noticed from my 30- 70 mcg apps of p83 not very much kino, but a stickiness effect, where people continue to return to me and want to be near me. no sel kino to me or others either
Noticed it as well today. I stopped near a soda machine to chat with an old friend and she says “Come with me to get my soda” and her body language showed that she didn’t really want me to leave when I did.
Hmm.
woot! just wanted to post a bit, I’m now 21 years into my life as of a few weeks ago, and its a double edged sword cause im now becoming an alcoholic maybe… 
I’m running out of a lot of products, and been using every last drop of the good stuff, but it hasnt seemed to be as effective when its only a small drop rather than a few sprays.
Should be some good parties this weekend, I hope my order comes in by them so i can get back in the game.
stay classy.
I did indeed get my order in today with the Ammo scent package. FF21 was leaking on arrival, so I decided I would test that first with a spray and a wipe from the bubble wrap.
To start, I will say I do not like the current Ammo scent so I am glad its getting an overhaul to it. FF21 doesn’t smell much like the current scent. On first applying, i thought it smelled very old spice, aftershave like. just pure aftershave, not something I enjoy personally.. Now thought that it has calmed down a bit, and still smells very musky and somewhat “middle aged man’s cologne”-ish.
I cant say I’m a huge fan of this FF21, but can see how many people could be. differences in taste i suppose.
yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy 
boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
hahaha jk. congrats on turning 21. the “i will turn into alcoholic” phase lasts for a few months (or in my case, 2+ years 
) and then you’ll be ok. the big turning point is when the free birthday drinks stop and you find out how expensive alcohol can get.
i ordered yesterday assuming the scent packs were gone and then saw steve’s post that there were still some left, so hopefully i can get in on this too. game is such a love/hate thing.