Pheromones and magick

Hi, Im a 27 y.o. in London, UK looking into pheromones as something which changes states of awareness and perception…another type of ‘‘potion’’. Im spiritual and am interested in our intuitive elements and what can open access to these elements and enhance them. Which is why I’m looking at pheromones as one of the ways to do so.
I hope to meet people here whom I can share a part of the journey with.

See y’all

Hi Magick, welcome to the forum.

You have found a great source of information for anything relating to pheromones and an awesome group of people ready and willing to help you along the path of discovery. If you have any questions, just ask.

If you will tell us a little more about the goals you are seeking to accomplish through the use of pheromones, and we can help steer you to the right products.

It sounds tp me like some of the social products are what you want to look into. Here are a few examples:

A314 - Gives off an alpha male aura and commands respect.

Instant Shine - Gives off a happy, feel-good effect for the weearer and those around them.

Instant Openness - Loweres barriers and makes people more talkative.

Instant Honesty - Encourages deeper and more meaningful conversation

Instant Female Magic - Makes women feel more confortable around you, especially during that time of the month.

Ammo - An all aound mix designed to encourage attraction from females.

Hi, Magick! Welcome to the fourms. I’ve tried several products here and have been very satisfied with the results. You say that you’re interested in altering people’s perceptions, and if that’s the case, you came to the right place! Depending on what you’re interested in changing, several of the spray pheromones are very potent, try some of those as your first purchase. Now, exactly who are the kind of people you’re interested in affecting? There are plenty of people here who will help you in creating the effect you want!

Once again, welcome!

~Andy

Welcome to the forum Mag! You came to the right place. Each product will change your state of awareness and the way you are perceived. They all have different effects. There are too many products available for me to describe the effects of each one. If you go to the smartmones store and click on individual products you will see that they provide you with a description of the effects that you can expect from each product. Instant Shine is one of my favorites for it’s feel good type vibe. I suggest to try a bunch of products in the TO GO size bottles to get a few to sample and pick your favorites. They each have about 40 sprays in them. Use one spray of one product at a time and increase by one spray each day to find your optimal dose and become familiar with the effects of each product. I also like to use Agarwood Oil for it’s psychoactive effects. It helps to make me feel at peace with the world and myself. It also has a fantastic aroma that you will want to keep smelling again and again and again. How did you discover this forum? I am curious. Please give us a specific example of what you need pheromones to help you with. DrZorters

Thank you for the warm replies.

I came across this site from LS when I was speaking with the lady on the phone regards whether the company was genuine and legitimate, and she recommended this site as another in the same game. The reason I was looking for this in the past was because of a lack of confidence with women, which is still true, though the way I reflect on life has made me a different person, and it’d be nice to share that with a special someone. However, I will need to get out there in order for it to be possible.

The agarwood oil seems intriguiging …and I’m interested in how you came across wanting to use it. It’s the first time I’m looking at scent as a method to help unlock my ‘‘Doors of Perception’’.

I’ve noticed that many of the pheromone products are ready mixed with a combination of pheromones and to this effect, I have already purchased a chem set so that I can add my own scents/ other scents eg Pheros and create these same products more economically. This chem set contains:
3mL Androstadienone
5mL Androstanone
5mL Estratetraenol
5mL Androstenone
5mL Androsterone
5mL Androstenol
5mL Estriol
So what I am looking for is mixes which do not contain the above, or which additionallly contain a ‘‘special ingredient’’ if it has that KO factor, or whether I can use the existing for the desired effects below.

This is why Im looking for some pheromones which are preferably:putatives and experimones (also some ready mixes) which are:
1.potent - the effects being ‘‘dramatic’’ - the reason being that I have never used pheromones before and want an easy introduction in this sense so that its clear what Im dealing with.
2.something which I can use for meditation- a greater directness with myself, a feeling of a ‘‘safe space’’ - something that generates comfort within myself(a male), and something which helps create a stillness
3.I unfortunately reflect a ‘‘lone wolf’’ character and am not easy to approach and am looking to soften the edges. Having said that, I’m softly spoken and not so assertive- something which can help me feel more assertive would be fantastic.
4.I can generate a vibe in a club and do receive a fair bit of attention from women though I’m sure its not because of my physical attractiveness. My problem is making an approach given obvious openings. Now I don’t always carry that ‘‘vibe’’ , so something which helps ‘‘make it happen’’ would be great.

I’d appreciate any feedback on this and look forward to reporting my experiences.

Hi there,

Sorry we missed your introduction. I’ve went ahead and issued you a $20 GC for being so patient. Welcome to the forum.

I find that Spaceland gives me that state which you are referring to. It gives the distance to my surroundings, and the stillness of mind. If I have disturbing thoughts, I can let go of them with spaceland.:roll_eyes:

It disturbs me if you are disturbed by the idea of someone having disturbing thoughts, disturbing them…
:stuck_out_tongue:
However, it is a valid point that thought necessitates action rather than removal of thought… So whats the phero for that ? lol

Magik

Welcome to the forum :slight_smile: I am so sorry I missed your GC, it was not intended I assure you.

HMMM so you want mixes that dont contain any of the above at all ?

I suggest Instant Honesty and Instant Shine. Both come in a light neroli scent so you can wear your own cologne if you choose to.

I am assuming you have mixed pheromones before ? Its can be tricky to do so if you havnt had experience take it slow so you dont waste product. Dont mix big batches until you know how each pheromone effects the other. Different pheromones and amounts mixed can cause different effects and you need to be aware of what pheromones are congruant with others to make a good symphonic mix.

(experimones and putatives) are advanced products and normally you need experience with Androtics consumer line before you approved for these. Here is a post from Jasmin explaining this…

You may want to give steveO a call before ordering on this if these are what you want. This way you dont end up ordering anything your not approved for. :wink:

Well if you have any questions just let us know and we look forward to your participation.

Sorry again about the wait on your GC.

Tisha

Again - Spaceland :wink:

I’m just grateful for the warm response tisha and thank you very much for the very warm and friendly response and the GC Steve!
I had phoned Steve after I placed an order including the advanced line. So- thank you tisha for pointing out the post by Jasmin- I know now I cannot take it for granted. It IS my first experimentation with pheros - I have tried a couple of commerical ones a few years ago - Smak (100ml aerosol - didnt state what was inside but I’ve since discovered Ive massively OD’d in the past) and the old type Lure (containing alpha-androstenol)- at that point I hadn’t known about the differing effects of the same pheros at different quantities and the differering types of pheros available. Despite my lack of experience, I’m sure this is a wonderful supportive community and I have a good gut feeling with the 'pheromones providing I put the effort in.

I have placed an order for the following:
*TAF, P79, P83, TAA 5mL 50mcg/spray

*P74 5mL 100mcg/spray

*beta-Androstenol 5mL 100mcg/spray

*In addition, each of the Instant products in to-go.

*Spaceland (!)

I will be using these products NOT in the above concentrations but diluting in about a 1:6 ratio of phero:dilutant , initially for a small quantity rest assured tisha, and tailoring it so that ideally I can use one spray once I’ve found the magic dose.

I shall be using essential oils as carrir scents. So far, Im considering Spaceland on its own - and experimenting with aloeswood and/or frankinscence and Spaceland, as aloeswood is used for meditation, and perhaps the interaction between Spaceland and TAF, whether it increases the potential OD threshold. I’m also considering mixing absinthe and nutmeg essential oils with some of the P’s and T’s to see how they interact. I am not quite sure how to work with Spaceland, and am thankful for advice thesecret. I’d love to know how you work with it.
One of the reasons for using mones is the positive feedback cycle where people react better to you, which in turn reinforces your behaviour and so on, and I’d love to see that in effect. So, I’m glad you’ve crystallised that in one of your posts.

Regarding the commercial line, I’m interested in IS and Instant Honesty and how they can interact with Liquid Trust, and initially, except for the meditative 'pheromones I’ll be experimenting with these for work and as an extra ingredient for closer friendships.

I look forward to trying these mones when the shipment arrives, and reporting on my experiences and the feedback.:slight_smile: