Pheromones for attraction and dating, for starting a business. 32/M/China

Hey guys whatsup

So after 6 grueling years of dead bedroom (i.e. less-than-monthly sex) with an abusive, manipulative and controlling wife, I’ve finally decided to get out and get my life back, dammit. I gave her chance after chance after chance. If I don’t leave now I’ll be miserable forever.

I was abstinent until I got married and then pretty much stayed abstinent against my will from then on :frowning:. Now I plan to make up for lost time, but I don’t have much experience (only ever had one woman) so I’m using subliminals and pheromones to catch up.

I’ve been an avid subliminal fan (Indigo Mind Labs) for a few years but just introduced to pheromones recently. Haven’t got any yet, still researching to see what I should buy first.

There’s two different goals I’m wanting to use mones for - one being sex and relationships, the other being business. I’m wanting to get some SEO clients and get a business off the ground.

Thanks for reading, looking forward to learning about pheromones and reading eveyone’s experiences :slight_smile:

Hi ShangaiKiwi,

Welcome to this forum.

You defintiely came to the right place for quality pheromones.

There is indeed no use staying in a decaying and abusive relationship if there is no hope that things can get better, especially if you have tired to mend things up in the past.

Please tell a bit more about yourself and your personality. This will help greatly with the recommendations. Also, what age range of ladies are you looking at? Where do you usually go to meet ladies? You’re looking for sex, basically, not a relationship?

By telling us more about you, you will be leigible to a 25$ gift certificate to help you with your first buy. Plus, all commercial-line products from Androtics come with a very solid moneyback guarantee.

Hope to hear from you.

Thanks, okay. I’ll try? Personality is hard to pinpoint.

I’m nice but maybe too much so, I’d say I’m recovering from ‘Mr Nice Guy’ syndrome, and have to learn to be a little less polite around women I’ve never met before (I’m thinking Instant Jerk might help). I’ve never really had a girlfriend other than my STBXW and she is a hardcore conservative Christian (total hypocrite tbh), so I don’t know how to behave around more normal women. I mean, I’m Christian too, but I’m done with the whole ‘no premarital sex’ thing. Totally over it. I even have verses to back myself up but I won’t go there on a secular public forum. I very nearly gave up being a Christian so I could have sex with lots of women, until I found out that that’s not necessary as everyone has been interpreting the bible wrong in the matter of premarital sex. Still might avoid church though because people won’t understand.

I have a good sense of humor and am pretty laid back. I’m not really one to wear a mask in social settings, fairly transparent and genuine, wysiwyg.

Btw I’m using a subliminal to change my personality towards women, DMSI (Develop Maximum Sexual Irresistibility) if you know that one, I mention it because I think it’s making significant changes, or at least will. Planning to have lots of casual sex before committing to any one woman, and using this sub to deal with religious baggage that might get in the way of that.

I haven’t made my escape yet: we live in China and when she suspected I might be leaving she threw my passport away (I’m a Kiwi). I applied for a new one and now while I’m waiting I have to pretend everything is okay so she doesn’t sabotage my escape attempt again. Seriously like a prisoner here, she won’t let me go to the expat pub to meet other foreigners or anything (probably worried I might meet a woman). So I’m not seeing any girls yet at all, because I haven’t left yet. Hopefully in the next fortnight.

Not sure about age range yet, will update after I’ve had some experience, but for now I’m going to say somewhere in the 20s. My STBXW is much older than me at 41 (I’m 32) and I’m sick of having an older woman, I want younger women from now on.

I’m a sucker for Asian chicks. I also find them more approachable, and after living in China for 5 years (married for 6) I picked up some basic Chinese which I can use to flirt and show off with (热辣美女! Lol). I don’t want to limit myself to Asians exclusively though.

Where would I go to meet women? When I get home to NZ I will probably start going to bars and nightclubs but I won’t have the budget to go every night. During the day I plan to join lots of social clubs, i.e. tramping/hiking club, Chinese practice club, jogging club, etc. I may experiment with Tinder but that’s just speculation at this point.

Oh man, I sympathize with you… the passport thing is sick! That lady sounds like the wicked witch of the east!

IJerk is a strange product I am barely starting to master :smiley:. It contains a lot of androstenone so it can be quite powerful. If you’re a good guy, you’ll have to let go to see it shine through. Just don’t make it the first mone you try. Takes some getting used to. Proceed with caution.

TUTH will be your friend. This helps build up sexual tension with ladies. In many cases, it’s good to prepare them first with other mones (socials, flirting) before adding TUTH, otherwise it can come out as to direct and strong.

Ammo is a good product for you. It sends a charmign and sexy vibe to the ladies. It,s a good one to use before adding TUTH. It steers things away from the friend zone.

If you need help breaking the ice with women, use IOpenness, it helps strike conversations with strangers.

For asian chicks, get IGentleman. Asian chicks are not that crazy about TUTH. They like the protective reliable guy vibe of IGentleman however.

Good luck with recovering your passport…

You will receive your gift certificate by email from one of the forum moderators. It usually takes a day or two while they verifiy eligiblity.

Yeah man, she is. She also has an outrageous temper like I’ve never seen before. She will shout and scream and hit and kick - not just in the privacy of our own home but in front of strangers, friends, customers, little children. Terrible. It would be a crime to have kids with such a woman, they’d be traumatised! I really dodged a bullet.

Ok thanks for the tips. It sounds like I’m going to have to get a bunch and do some testing. Okay, so different situations would call for different mones. IGentleman sounds like it would be good to take to the Chinese practice club. Ammo for other social situations where I’m trying to chat up the ladies i.e. hiking club and nichtclub, and TUTH seems to be something I keep in my pocket so I can duck out to the loo and put some on when things are already running smoothly with a girl. Correct?

What pheromone would you recommend for the context of job interviews? Going to have to find a job ASAP when I get to NZ and I need all the unfair advantage I can get. This is also important for finding women: when I arrive in NZ I’ll be staying with my folks until I find a job and can get my own place (hopefully no more than a few weeks). Can’t take a random girl home to my parents’ place, lol! Oh the shame… haha

Awesome, thanks for that!

For job interviews, what do you think of iShine?

Update

Ok so I searched the forum for ‘job interview’ and had a look, it seemed people were doing various combos of A314 with IG, IH, IO and IS. I might mix all those together for job interviews and sales. Or is 5 too many for a mix?

Thoughts?

Welcome to PheromoneTalk, ShanghaiKiwi! :slight_smile:

Your GC is now in your email. :slight_smile:

Your situation is both funny and scary. Although I would advice you to refrain from using any religion-related side comments here. We don’t want to have this board hosting any form of faith-hate.

For now, I would suggest you deal with your current situation with A314 + IShine + Ihonesty. That’s the way a man should deal with his wife. Make sure also to have a good amount of TUTH, P75, IJerk as back up. :slight_smile:

Happy Pheroing! :slight_smile:

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Got it, thanks! Getting the starter pack so I can mix :slight_smile:

Sure of course. I just wanted to give an accurate portrayal of my current situation. I know better than to talk about God in a public forum, especially to talk about God in one breath and then talk about having sex with multiple random women in the next!

Actually, I won’t be ‘dealing with my wife’. I’m having my mones delivered to the NZ address, and will be leaving my wife in China to go live in NZ and start afresh.

But hey, any ideas about the job interview? I posted another thread here.

Thanks!

I have had a lot of job interviews in the past months.

You can have a look at my journal, I have had great results. There are lots of pages in it, but you could start from the end for quick reference.

I agree that religion and politics should not be discussed here, this will help keep this a nice, chill and friendly place where everybody feels welcome. I know you meant no harm, though, don’t worry :slight_smile:. You might choose to edit your post too if you feel it’s the thing to do.

Peace out ShanghaiKiwi. I’m not judging you, I think I should make it clear, if ever my post above made you think that I am.

It’s really a no-big-deal for us moderators, but since this is a diverse community of tens of thousands, we wouldn’t want a trend snowballing into a situation that is difficult to control, and is entirely out of order. :slight_smile:

Anyway, I hopefully thought that mones use might still save your marriage. But it seems that the love is all gone and you have strongly decided to deal with it, sans mones. :slight_smile:

For interviews, I would second Conjurator’s suggestion to check his journal. You might bag the interviewer too. :stuck_out_tongue:

I’ll be looking out for that KiwiJournal soon. :slight_smile:

Hey Dee, I didn’t think you were judging me at all. You can read my previous posts with a cheerful voice! Its all written in a good mood :slight_smile:

But I won’t edit out the religious stuff either, its there to give background, i.e. religious baggage, key point: its relevant. Plus talking about my failed marriage is therapeutic. If some troll comes on board and tells me I’m a terrible hypocrite for believing in God and having sex with women I’m not married to, I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it.

I’m definitely not here to tell people about God - do I look like I am? But neither should I hide in the shadows when its relevant. Ten to twenty years ago homosexuals would have to do that, now they can talk openly about their situations and its no big deal. They’re not trying to proselytise, and neither am I. Religion will probably not be relevant any more from hereon in as I’ll be mostly talking about business and sexual relationships, but it was relevant when I was talking about my background. Religious baggage and a lifetime of abstinence are VERY relevant to explain my lack of experience with women.

@Conjurator, sounds good! Thanks, I’ll give it a read :slight_smile:

PS
I should be going to NZ in about a week or so, and I’m thinking my mones will already be there at my folks place waiting for me (I bought the man’s strt pack last night). Can’t wait! I’ll start my journal when I open the box.

Hello ShangaiKiwi,

I agree totally with the starter kit as you will get everything you need and this is a perfect time to really change things and have life the way you want it.

Welcome and if I can help you out in anyway let me know and feel free to send me a PM as I am always willing to help. I hope you start a journal we can follow and you will have a lot of support here. Good Luck!!!

Awesome thanks Justin! Will do.

I look forward to it :slight_smile: