Pheromones for personal growth and "self-effects" from autosuggestion

Summary: I am interested in exploring Pheromones to support me in more easily learning the art of communicating with women while building attraction and in building respect in my coaching business. I have recently had positive “self-effects” by using autosuggestive methods allowing me to feel more confident and express alpha male characteristics. (for details see end of this post)

Greetings from South Western Germany,
having read this highly interesting forum on usage, effect and self-effect of different pheromones for a total of 20 hrs+ over the past 2 weeks, I noted the high level of respect and interest in learning in many threads. I thank the many dedicated posters (bosshank, Tisha, Gegogi, renny, pagodeiro and many others, who I have already benefited from) providing valuable experiences and recommendations which lend credibility to this initially strange idea of using pheromones.

I am a 44-yr old, male, of Asian origin (low on -nones ?!) , 5’7", of slim build, appearing 10yrs younger, recently separated after a long marriage and about to move to a different city. Hence I look for pheromones to support my learning process (approaching women, building attraction beyond the coaching context)
a) in the dating game, and
b) to expand my professional practice (which suffered while the marital situation remained unresolved)
I came across smartmones, when on an impulse I googled pheromones, came past Cutler, “Pherlure”, various comparison websites, until somone mentioned Androtics as the company not to be ignored. This forum to me confirms that.

My goal in Dating Life:
My main challenges are creating attraction and overcoming social anxiety with high-status women
a) What I observe is, that most women who feel attracted to me come from my professional area, touched by my caring, supportive professional persona, I guess a typical coach or therapist problem. But my professional ethics do not permit me to take advantage of that without a cooling down period.
b) With women I meet in private life, I have been able to incite sexual attraction and escalate physical touch only rarely, but especially not with

  • tall women (my own self-concept needs an upgrade)
  • young women (I have not yet been able to generate romantic interest with under 30-yr olds, except in my profession, a no-no)
  • very beautiful woman (who might feel they are of higher value or generally brush guys off)
    c) Once I get to know them, most women realize my personality, skills, my ability to see through them and accomplishments, it seems they ascribe higher value to me, sometimes becoming insecure or scared (?) (maybe I should not reveal my knowledge of them, though that makes me more alpha?!) in the process (see woman No.3 below)

My goal in the professional area: Although I have been a professional in the personal growth area for 10 yrs now, the fact that I am usually thought to be in the early thirties has at times been a challenge, as older managers might think “This guy is too inexperienced”).
Target: get respect, get past this hurdle, so they actually want to experience the opportunity for more success and balance, that I offer them and trust me enough to book my services.

What Pheromones: From my reading I plan to
business: get “respect in a bottle” A314 combined with IS, IO or IH (in To-Gos) to be perceived as more alpha and to facilitate communication, I wonder whether IS could help or be too much,
dating: A314, IS, Ammo, TUTH
for curiosity: IG (to be the man, facilitate initial contact), CTTM2 (to overcome approach anxiety with groups and highly attractive women)
maybe: something which helps me become more focused and not be side-tracked?.
While I am interested in the (not-in-stock) P83, P86, Raw Power, I wonder, how much to start out with.

I plan to combine the -mones with this self-experiment, which already had promising results, but requires emotional energy.

Details on my Self-Experiment: As the self-effect of pheromones was mentioned repeatedly in the forum, I felt inspired to imagine and feel becoming more alpha, confident, outgoing, cocky and funny with women.
Method used: I regularly said to myself and felt in my body, that I love myself, that enjoy being confident and several other statements, until I could stably feel that in me. Results this last week were instantaneous, I noticed “hits” from 3 different attractive women, where they to my surprise
No.1) thanked me with wide open eyes, gave me a hug and asked for my approval, while she showed off her costume (attractive 30yr old, was a client, though) and figure
No.2) talked with me very openly for hours, even about very personal issues, her spirituality, her single life, that she still longed to have children (a professional, successful woman early 40s),
No.3) touched my hair a minute after I greeted her in a self-confident and humorous manner, enquiring about my age, seeking body proximity, even admiring my being well-groomed and my cologne today! (which I guess - Davidoff Cool Water - has no pheromones - lol).
I might have been too alpha (??), as the 3rd woman, the one with the touching, seemed a bit resigned later, looking sad, (she appeared both interested and insecure, I may have overdone the “confidence” and come over as a jerk too sure of himself) ?(I may be wrong here, though I read body language well, when it does not concern me personally.)

Overall, I was quite impressed with the experiment, and suggest it to those not receiving enough hits with Pheromones. I will be glad to provide further instructions, how I approach it.
I wonder that when “feeling and imagining myself to be confident and alpha” alone has the effect
how much more effective could this be: the above + self-effect of -mones + placebo-effect + passive social effects (Thanks, Renny) +actual effect of -mones on others .

I look forward to contributing to this forum.
Cheerio and have a great day!:slight_smile: (IS)
PG

Hello!

Welcome to the forum~~~

We’re glad to have you here!

Wow, that’s a splendid intro. Seems you’ve done a lot of research as well.

There’s a lot to recommend, but for the first time, why not try out something simple first.

I’d suggest Ammo, TUTH, or Instant Shine. Just to start.

You seem to have a good head on your shoulders.

Combined with your self-experiment, I’m sure you’ll do well. :slight_smile:

Welcome to the forum! One of the best researched and laid-out intros I’ve read in a while. You definitely seem to know what you’re doing, and with experience, I think pheromones will lend themselves to you as a valuable tool. Ammo will probably be a good mix for you in the dating game, or you could buffer an androstenone product like Turn Up the Heat with socials like Instant Shine and Instant Honesty. It could be also be useful in catching the eye of higher status women long enough for you to demonstrate your own value. Of course, a great product for piquing the interest of such women is A314, which projects an aura of leadership and power. I look forward to hearing more about your self-experiment and experiences with pheromones.

Welcome. That was a wonderful introduction to read. I’m glad I clicked on this thread. I look forward to reading your thoughts as you go through your product testing.

With as much information as you have already read and your current understanding of rapport and body language, I’m finding it hard to recommend a product for you. Honestly it would be great if you tried them all so that I could read your opinions. However if we had to start somewhere I would recommend two, maybe 3 products in particular. The first product is A314. There are lots of testimonies of how A314 helps increase your Alpha aura and makes you a confident leader, but there are some other things that I have noticed about it that you may be interested in.

A314 has an element to it that helps many people pay more attention to details. If you are good at reading body language, A314 seems to help you notice even more. Every subtle movement appears to be broken down. When it is combined with CTTM2 and IH or just IH, the ability to create rapport is almost instantaneous. I have taken an inital meeting with a customer from handshake, to mirroring, to leading within 3 or 4 minutes all with a time distortion thanks to A314 that made it seem quite a bit longer. This may be helpful in your field. IH will also help you create closeness with the opposite sex, while A314 will make you come across as the best possible catch.

Thanks to each of you for your suggestions. All your answers agree with each other quite well.

@LucidDreamer: (offtopic question) Are you one of the few Dreamers who can stay fully conscious during your dreams as your username indicates? Because I heard that Lucid Dreaming can be a great resource for personal growth (I haven’t gotten their yet, a friend of mine has).
@Vespero: Yes, to show my value to high-status women is a prime purpose of using -mones (and working on my self-confidence)
@JosieWilder: Interesting to hear about A314 increasing our ability to pay attention to details and create rapport and (weird) time distortion!

I guess I will use all your suggestions and try different approaches in Dating: Alternate weeks I will use 1) Ammo, 2) TUTH and Instant Shine and 3) A314 and IS and IH.

In business I guess A314 and IH are good to start out with.

I will continue working to overcome social anxiety, which is IMHO the biggest hurdle for success in many areas, in select situations through autosuggestion.

Greetings from PG