I bought pheromones primarily to attract this asian girl, and today I went to bowling with her and her friends and it was the first time to try it out. But the results were not what I had expected.
For most of the duration she would stand as far from me as possible, and would not talk to me at all. I had to initiate so many conversations, which flowed well, but everytime after she bowled, she would stand away from me again.
However, I did get some interesting results with other women (I’m not interested in). One girl kept complimenting me on how well I bowled, which was surprising because I sucked and she was constantly beating me by at least 10 points. One girl walked towards me and slapped my arse and then walked off again. Finally, her best friend tried initiating a conversation with me three times, and I passed on her offer to play her Nintendo DS, I passed on her offer to go grab something to eat after and I passed on her offer to play Dance Dance Revolution with her.
I’m an asian guy who doesn’t sweat much. I took a shower when I got home and I put on two sprays of Turn on the heat, one in each armpit, two sprays of Ammo on my chest, two drops of A314 on my upper chest, four sprays of Instant Shine on my front neck, two sprays of Instant Openness on my back neck and four sprays of Instant Female Magic, two on each arm. I think my pheromones did affect me as I felt a lot more open than usual.
But the question is, why is the girl I like avoiding me?
Yours is the typical rookie post. I’m a newbie but not a rookie.
With Asian women, especially Japanese, you want to avoid -none unless you are on safe ground. This is not a hard and fast rule.
You used no less than three products with -none, and sprayed them in your armpits to boot. Never spray -none in your pits!
There are also conversions to -none from -nol you have to be aware of, even though Asians tend to like -nol just fine. That means you are wise just to go a bit lighter on everything with that crowd.
If I was going to try something new with Asians it would be TAH, though I’ve never used it; because they often emit a sensitive gentle vibe that fits the product’s rep.
Putting it all together you probably had about 18 mcg Androstenone on with a good dose of arone around 30 mcg Plus all the other stuff.
The Asian girl may have been a little intimidated with the Androstenone. nearly equal to 2 drops Raw Power.
You probably can handle the anone ok seeing as your Asian, but it may have just been a little too much for the Asian girl, she may have been little confused.
Seems like the feel good pheromones be better off around this girl, and when the relationship starts to blossom then try small spray of TUTH with this Asian girl.
Right off the bat, sounds like a pretty serious OD. But’s that’s okay; that means it can only go up from here. First of all, you should start off by using the products separately. I promise, that will help you bet better results, not only initially, but certainly in the long run because you will have a better idea of how the people around you react to those pheros.
TUTH, Ammo and A314 all have -none in them, and while I am a lady and certainly not an expert on the men’s products, I know that the combo you created basically sent out a neon sign to every women within 5 miles of you that read “ME. WANT. SEX. NOW.” That kinda tends to scare the ladies away. Far away. Now, using a little -none gives off the message, “I would be a good sexual partner, don’t you think?” Much more subtle, and MUCH more affective.
You have a lot of great products—you just need to pull back the usage in a pretty major way. Try each of them by themselves, and then be selective about your combo’s. Like, try the A314 with a little Instant Openness, or Ammo with some Instant Honesty. That give you a sexual vibe that isn’t freaky, and makes women want to approach you. The Female Magic improves her mood, so mixing it with Instant Shine and might be a little pushy. I hope this is all making sense.
I would rush over to the men’s forum and check out the stick threads at the top—particualrly “Noob Phero Bootcamp”. Phero’s are not about quantity. It’s about knowing the products well enough that you are completely aware of the messages you are sending out. Keep all your pheromones—they will all come in handy and produce fabulous results: just not all together.
Feel free to ask any more questions, especially as sometimes I am unintentionally cryptic. Best of luck with your lady friend.
Asians definitely respond differently. Take it easy on the -none in general. use more warm open happy mixes with them. I’m not saying “dont” use -none, but just start with the lowest dose possible and see what happens.
A314 is a good one, but depending on your age it may not be good at higher doses. Try 1 drop and go from there. Asian women tend to like the alpha caregiver type a little more than most so this is a good effect.
Any of the nols(Instant openness/honesty/spaceland/straight alphanol or betanol will work normally. I’ve seen reports that some asian women seem to be more sensitive to these too, but these are hard to OD on so its less of an issue.
other lighthearted pheromones to use with Asians that I’ve tested:
-P74
-low doses of Pheromone proof(it covers the -none so well!)
-Instant Female magic(be careful as it may be a downer for you. Try spraying it on the back of your neck to reduce the self effects)
Others that i havn’t tested, but they are in the mail and im really excited for
Mx200 (Mharris’s personal mix he made specifically for attracting asian women)
p98 (I’ve heard some cool things)
p79(not just for asian women, but I’m dying to test it out)
am i the only one who thinks he got some really obvious hits? (albeit not from his target girl, which is the kind of irony that happens all too often, like using LoA on the lottery)
i mean, butt slap from random girl, excessive attention from the best friend. those are definitely hits in my book. kinda similar to what i experienced when i first tried apc years ago.
I know you’re Asian, but still that’s a whole boatload of pheromones there, ESPECIALLY putting Turn Up The Heat on your armpits! Wow…you were asking for some fights or something…
Hahaha, well, first off, Asian girls like -none in my experience, but not that much. Definitely tone it down. Just 1-3 sprays of Ammo can work very effectively. I’m actually seeing this Asian chick now, and just one spray of Ammo to the chest works sweet. Try just 1-3 sprays total of all the pheromones you apply. Don’t go overkill. You won’t even know what works or what is having what effect. Take it slow at first.
Oh yeah, and with Asians…use some social pheromones. …actually, scratch what I said earlier about IO. I don’t currently have any. What I have and recommend is CTTM! That stuff is amazing. It’s just short of working magic. People who never muttered a peep will start talking to you, trust me.
It wasn’t that much of a disaster after all. I called her a few times throughout the week, asking her to come to lunch with me and she did. Just before the lunch I sprayed 6 x Instant Openness around my neck area, 4 x Instant Female Magic behind my neck and on my hands, and 2 x Ammo on my chest. We had a great time during our 2 hour lunch, and I asked her out to the movies, and she also invited me to go with her to her friend’s housewarming party.
Now the question is, what should I spray for the housewarming and the movies? I’m thinking I should stand out from the crowd to impress her, and at the same time making her feel comfortable around me, so I’m thinking 6 x Instant Shine + my lunch setup.
For the movie we’re gonna be watching Ocean’s 13, and I want to increase sexual tension, so 1 x Turn Up The Heat + my lunch setup.
There is an old saying about “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.”
Sounds like your mix above worked pretty well. Might want to just stick with it. Impress her and stand out with your personality. Plus don’t get carried away by applying too much! It’s been shown that often times “less is more” when it comes to pheromone products.
You might actually want to tone your application down by maybe 30%-50% and see how it goes. Adjust slowly up or down depending on results. Plus I think it’s a good idea to introduce some “variability” to you pheromone signature once in a while.
Remeber pheromones are only a “booster.” Sometimes one or two sprays of something is all you really need.
I’m Korean and don’t sweat much either. However if I spray any androstenone in my armpits, look out. The ensuing funk is worse than eating a bucket of kim-chi and snorting cumin! Perhaps she was keeping her distance because you reeked!
Not a theory, but a well known fact proved in labs and discussed many times on this forum and others as anecdotes. Genetics, age, race, culture, experience, etc., intermingle to create a full range of reactions. Also, whether or not she’s into you and how well she knows you impacts her tolerance to your unpleasant traits such as funky androstenone smell or butt breath…
True. My fav is “degree of drunkenness.” Wipes out social filters and pronto. Heck you don’t even need any frickin’ pheromones if they’re moderately juiced up.
First of all, you should start off by using the products separately. I promise, that will help you bet better results, not only initially, but certainly in the long run because you will have a better idea of how the people around you react to those pheros.
Best of luck with your lady friend.