I need EST now…! 
I’ve been waiting for Androtics to restock on the lovely EST! But I’m growing very impatient.. lol 
Does anyone have a bottle I can buy or trade?
Also…
Do you think I can replace EST with P74 for alike results? 
EST isn’t out of stock just because Androtics ran out 
There are issues with the patent which makes it extremely expensive. Androtics is a research company so it’s not a priority to obtain more of a compound that’s extremely expensive but that they don’t have exclusivity with. I think Jas said a while back that they are looking into ways of getting it back though but there’s no definite timeline…
P74 is pretty much as good as you’ll get if you want to use something with a similar feel to EST. I don’t use P74 for that purpose myself but I know some members do
you could also get EST from lovescent (but I haven’t tried it yet). My buddy remmy used to use them and had some nice results
EST won’t be coming back to Androtics unless they can somehow get use of the substance that doesn’t violate the current patent holder’s rights. Right now they can’t legally use EST in any of their consumer formulations because it would be a patent violation. They could offer it purely for research purposes, but really, what is the point, since it is so expensive? But they are working on the patent issue.
In the meantime:
I use the Love Scent chemset EST. It works fine. The only problem is you get 10 ml of 1 mg/ml concentration, and it needs to be diluted or you end up wasting too much product.
At 1 mg/ml if you transferred it to an Androtics spray bottle it would have a 150 mcg/spray concentration. So, you need to dilute it down.
I make a stock 50 mcg/spray solution by adding 20 ml of perfumer’s alcohol to the 10 ml of EST.
Diane
I just ordered some est from ls too.
do report on it please
I need to purchase my est from there once my bottle is finished sigh
honestly, Androtics could give away EST on a suggested donation basis.
first come first serve.
i mean, its in such high demand, im sure they would run out of product right about the time someone donated 2$ to a suggested 50$ bottle…
i actually use EST in the 150mu range, lol, so LS EST wouldnt bother me.
(except that i wont shop at LS.)
I’m sure we would all donate more for a bottle of EST from Androtics. *sigh
Yes, please do report!
I’ve used P74 as sort of a substitute, but it’s no where near sadly
I do plan on buying some soon. Been eying the EST from LoveScent. Too bad it’s so dang expensive. We’ll have to see how big my pay check is XD
Please lemme know how it works too
It is pretty expensive over at LS but once you dilute it down to Dianes specs its 50 MCG per spray and it lasts a long time because you only need one or two sprays. I even use less successfully.
I would not say we will never see it here again. I have learned to never say never. But they dont want to violate that patent by using it in a mix and because they test molecules are for mixing here and cant use that one its not cost effective for them to carry it. Same with A1
If your looking to buy it to make mixes with LS is a good place to go.
If your looking to just use it to layer with other products then I got myself a bottle of the Womens unscented 1 oz over at natural attraction for $18 bucks which has EST in it. They hold the patent so all there womens stuff has it. Not the exact same effect as straight EST but closer then P74
http://shop.naturalattraction.com/product.sc?categoryId=4&productId=16
(Lor you need to be careful because there is possibly A1 in it to. ) A1 is the other patent they hold which is partly what IFM is.
I was told the mens products are more A1 heavy and the womens more EST heavy
Tisha
I appreciate that Tisha.
I am an EST freak like alot of these gals,
but oddly enough i find I use alot more dose wise.
Lately I havent been about other companies so much.
I never like ratios that are already put before me
because my moods/chemistry/mind changes so often
that I cannot even imagine not layering the androtics as usual.
psssht, i feel spoiled.
LS got smart catering to the people who want their own ratios with the chem set.
I used to call them Hotel California.
Now I hear the song and I cant help laughing.
LOL Tell me about it. I am spoiled to after using the stuff here. I do get other stuff just to play with.
Sometimes I just like to put something on and not think about it. I tell you after using a lot of other products it makes you really love these more.
Tisha
sigh so true… I love the stuff over here, it’s addicting!
Hi Tisha, i am looking for Diannes specs on how to mix the EST from LS… i have found several threads talking about her specs , but i havent found the spec itself.. i am new to searching for specific threads or post and am trying to find my way around this site… hope you can help.. thanks
Islandhoppper
Whats the name of it at LS? I dont see it in the womans Pheros. DANG!
Hey Sunbubbles,
I am new to this site but i do know that it is under kits and supplies at the LS site. and not the womens pheromones.. hope this helps..
I’ve had a look at their website & maybe I’m looking in the wrong places but I can’t find any mention of which actual phero’s their products contain How do you actually know what you’re getting?
Xiphoid, I had the same problem and could find no listing of ingredients either. Also, it may contain EST but for 18 bucks, how much can be in it? 
I dunno.
Tish, can you please shed some light on this?
Whats perfumers alchohol?? where can I order it, or is that just any regular perfume? Im thinkin about gettin the EST that LS offers.
I REALLY need some EST in my life MAN!!! sniffle sniffle ok Im done whining now…