Est - xmestratetraenol

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Will this be coming back into stock any time soon?

Diane

EST from other places.
EST: does anyone know where I can get some at a good price?
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Do you mean Methoxyestratetraenone or Estratetraenol ?? Whoop never mind you mean EST LOL

Meo-est was in stock the other day, not sure if that will be back but I would say most likey.

EST wont be back until the patent is up on it. It cant be used in a mix so its not cost effective to sell it here since they cant really research it.

Here this thread will explain it for you

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/curiuos-why-est-always-out-stock-13613.html

Tisha

Tisha

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Do you know anything about the concentrates or crystals available AD? Seems pretty cheap to me at $40 for 10mg dry crystal (98% pure), or $45 for 10 mL suspended.

And Stone is offering it at $87 for a 10mL bottle, similar to the price it was offered at Androtics.

So is it that Androtics can’t offer it anymore because of the patent, or is it because they would have to manufacture it to offer it, and that is too expensive? I’m not sure I understand the ramifications of the patent.

Thanks for taking the time to explain this to me.

Diane

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They have to purchase EST to sell it. Androtics is a research and developement company first and foremost. They cant use EST is mixes until the patent is up so it dosnt further there research and is not cost effective at this time. I know other companies may violate that but not Androtics. When the shit hits the fan they want to be way upwind.

Myself I have never used the crystals, At LS it comes in a 10ml bottle at 1mg/per ML

1MG is 1000 MCG 1000x10= 10000 mcg total

The bottle here is 50 MCG per spray in a 30 ML bottle approx 200 sprays so 50mg x 200 = 10000 mcg total

So The LS bottle is the same just in a different form

They get theres from Japan though and Androtics got theres from the USA

I dont know much about the other lab you mentioned that I can not mention LOL , I only used it a few times because I got a sample from a friend and it did nothing for me but it could have just needed more testing. His is $109 per 30ml bottle at 100 mcg per spray. Knowing what the cost for EST is normally I would have to say something is off somewhere or someone is losing alot of money selling it. I have never seen it anywhere else but here and In LS and one other place. He dosnt offer it in his lab as far as I know just from this one other unmentionable company.

Have you tried P74 at a high concentration. It really is very very similar to EST ?

Tisha

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Thanks for all the really good info, Tisha! I love P74 (just bought some more) and I really like it in social mixes, but… I find that it is way too distancing for me in sexy mixes, even in small doses. And I really want to be there fully, mind/body/spirit… not backed away… when it counts!

I went ahead and bought LS’s bottle of EST at $87. So, if I transfer it direct to an Androtics bottle, it should be at 50.0 mcg/dose as it is… that is good to know… thank you! :slight_smile:

I believe AD is in Japan. I don’t know if their crystals are what they say they are, maybe they are dried horse piss, who know? Maybe if someone uses the crystals here they will report on them. I may purchase some to test, later… at $45 I guess I could take that chance and not be losing much.:cool: How hard would it be to get a sample assayed? Heh!

So the patent is up in what… two, three years? Nice window for testing… lol.

Oh, one more thing… is it kosher to ask why AD in unmentionable? Should I PM you about it? Gosh, it gets very tricky talking sometimes, doesn’t it? :o

Diane

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Because AD is really PC, They changed the look of the site after the owner got busted for selling drugs and dangerous chemicals.

PC was probably before you got here to the forum

Read this …http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/ice-breakers-pheromone-cologne-13544.html

If you look at the about us section of the site at AD and you will see his name.

Plus, since I have been here the mention of other labs has always been banned. Products where fine to talk about as long as you didnt link to them or use the store name. Recent events have made them a bit more strict on this though.

Jasmin can explain the rest if she wants to reveal more but there are good reasons and believe me I am a big advocate and thorn in their side when it comes to remaining uncensored which we still are. But I do understand her reasoning on this request.

Tisha

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Hey Diane, when you transfer LS’ bottle of Est to Androtics bottle don’t forget to add 20 ml of perfumer’s alcohol or cologne to make it 50 mcg/spray like the Androtics’s Est dose, otherwise your bottle will only be 1/3rd full and you will be getting 150 mcg/spray.:slight_smile:

Btw the Est of LS being from Japan may not be really true.
If it was from Japan I wouldn’t doubt its quality one bit, even compared to US produced. But someone told me that may not be entirely true. Don’t ask me who though.:wink:

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Then why would Bruce write that its from Japan in the store where he is selling it. Its right on the page where you buy it. Dosnt make sense that he would lie and say it was from Japan when its made here in the USA.

Thanks I should have mentioned that LOL :wink: (sorry Diane)

Tisha