EST: does anyone know where I can get some at a good price?

[Madera599]

Hi,
Does anyone know where I can get some? I’ve heard its good stuff, but that it can be quite pricey, if anyone knows where I can get some at a good price, please let me know.
Thanks,
Madera

[diane999]

@Madera599

Hi,
Does anyone know where I can get some? I’ve heard its good stuff, but that it can be quite pricey, if anyone knows where I can get some at a good price, please let me know.
Thanks,
Madera

Tisha answers this question here:

Est - xmestratetraenol

Will this be coming back into stock any time soon? Diane

Diane

[Warren]

I got mine from (Name removed). The price seems similar to what Tisha mentioned. When the bottle arrived it is actually 30,000mcg per 30ml bottle. That would be 150mcg per spray IF there are 200 sprays per bottle. I think their sprays are smaller (and there are more of them). When someone talks about large amounts of EST in multiples of 150mcg, I suspect they are significantly over-estimating how much EST they actually using. I pour it into and empty spray bottle from A.P.R. to get an accurate amount.

I like P74, but it is totally different from EST in my experience.

[tisha23]

Warren there is a temporary ban on mentioning because of the lab they used. Otherwise they are a good honest company with good people it is just that they still carry products from the lab that is banned.

Read this post and it will explain why…

PheromoneTalk

Thanks for your understanding

Tisha

[diane999]

@tisha23

Warren there is a temporary ban on mentioning LP products because of the lab they used. Otherwise they are a good honest company with good people it is just that they still carry products from the lab that is banned.

Read this post and it will explain why…

http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/ice-breakers-pheromone-cologne-13544.html

Thanks for your understanding

Tisha

Ah, okay, thanks… my, the education I’m getting! So, is there any way to know where LS, aka, Stone gets their Est?

Diane

[diane999]

Schraud

So this is the guy behind the fraudulent phero products, cyber attacks, alleged harassment, etc.?

DCC [In the News]**

DCC Hosts Youth Awards and Scholarship Presentation Release Date June 10, 2005
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Christopher Schraud, $1,000 scholarship, nominated by Arlington High school, was classified as a special education student during his middle school years in the Wappingers Central School District. He transferred to Arlington High School in his freshman year, but after problems adjusting to the new school, he continued his high school education at BOCES-BETA. When he returned to Arlington, he began to show his academic potential, with grades in the high 80s and 90s. He will graduate this spring and enroll in DCC in the fall, where he hopes to pursue his interest in the natural sciences and biochemistry.

Man admits to selling hallucinogen
01/17/2008

St. Louis — A man from New York state admitted here Wednesday that he has sold an illegal hallucinogenic cough medicine ingredient to St. Louis-area residents and across the country over the Internet.

Christopher Schraud, 22, pleaded guilty in federal court in St. Louis to one count of selling a misbranded drug. That case involved a Dec. 13, 2005, sale of 250 grams to a St. Charles County customer.

Schraud faces up to 16 months in prison under federal sentencing guidelines.

He acknowledged providing dextromethorphan hydrobromide, or DXM, to customers in St. Louis, St. Louis and St. Charles counties and Crawford County in 2005 and 2006.

DXM is an ingredient in some cough and cold medicines that causes euphoria and hallucinations if taken in large doses. It also can cause brain damage, seizures, irregular heartbeats and death.

Schraud admitted that he bought DXM in 25-kilogram plastic barrels from a New Jersey chemical company that got it from India. Schraud repackaged it in plastic bags and sold it in sizes as small as 0.1 gram through his website.

He also admitted that he should have known that some of his customers, who used home addresses or post office boxes and had e-mail accounts containing names like “mushroommuncher” and “smokecrackhailsanta,” were ingesting the drug for its euphoric effect, according to court documents and testimony.

U.S. Attorney Catherine Hanaway said the customers weren’t trying very hard to hide their intent.

The DXM was not manufactured for human use or in compliance with Food and Drug Administration requirements, prosecutors said.

Hanaway said investigators believe that Schraud sold more than 150 kilos online to customers numbering in the “high hundreds” or “low thousands.”

Schraud’s lawyer, Steve Welby, said the number wasn’t that high.

Welby said Schraud’s website had a warning that the DXM was to be used only for legitimate purposes, like scientific research, and that he did have research customers. Customers also had to fill out a form listing a legitimate scientific use.

Schraud was running the business out of his father’s house in Pleasant Valley, N.Y.

“I think he started with the best of intentions, and things just went in the wrong direction,” Welby said.

Investigators discovered Schraud’s operation while investigating a man who made pills out of Schraud’s DXM and sold them in East St. Louis-area clubs, telling people it was the drug Ecstasy.

Deaths have been linked to overdoses of DXM, but Hanaway said prosecutors do not suspect Schraud’s sales of being connected to any.

A government study released last week found that about 3.1 million Americans ages 12-25, or about 5 percent, had used over-the-counter cough and cold medicines to get high at least once. That number is comparable to use of LSD and higher than that of methamphetamine, the National Survey of Drug Use and Health found.

DXM abuse has prompted Congress to try to restrict bulk sales.

Zomg! What is the world coming to?

So the lab he used for his products wasn’t also his father’s house, was it?

Diane

[remmy]

i personally like my LS est. they’ve worked great and i bought a bottle a couple of months back which im only half way through

[November]

my EST from LS is in dropper form..not spray. is it the same as yours ?

[tisha23]

Oh my let me clear this up LOL It can be so confusing with the code talk and all.

Yes Diane that would be him.

LS is love scent they are good and you dont need to worry about them. we can say there name again and again . They have also removed PC products and banned speaking about him in there forum.

PC is the bad place and they snuck under the radar and opened AD, they are banned here because of what Jazzy wrote in her post. Whether he cleaned up his act I dont know and its up to you if you want to buy from them but we wont encourge it here.

LP used PC for there products then discontinued them when he got busted (see diane’s post above). Not there fault, they are new to this. Anyways they still sell some things with his stuff so there is a temporary ban on talking about them which I dont agree with but that is besides the point. They do have yummy scents though.

Stone claims to be a lab and his products have been under standards lately (see EOW post in ladies forum) we have always been asked not to mention other labs. Products yes labs no. Here is the post I was looking for …

What happened to eow?

I’ve held my lip for years on this, so it wouldn’t harm one of the larger phero retailers out there, which is run by a very good man who happens to have a few disreputable dealers. (and as a retailer, it’s not like he’s had much choice in the matter) The sad reality is actually that Stone is substandard in every way, shape and form, as all products from dishonest companies are. Call Sigma-Aldrich on Monday (sigma-aldrich.com), ask a product manager for chemical A8008, and show them this: htt…

my EST from LS is in dropper form..not spray. is it the same as yours ?

If you add it to 20ml of perfumers alcohol the dosage will be the same as was sold here at androtics. 50 mcg per spray

Its not supposed to be used straight from the container which has a dropper. Its concentrated chem set grade EST. You have to dilute it.

Now I know there are those who will say we are censoring. For the most part this forum is free of censorship. You can swear or talk dirty. You can state your opinion (without being rude or nasty to others) You can say the products bought here are not working for you. You can mention other products by name that are not on the currant ban list.

You can not mention labs, PC SIR and AD they all claim to be labs. Cant say for sure if they are or not but if they want to call themselves a duck we will consider them a duck and not talk about them. This has always been a rule

You can not post links. Always been a rule.

If a dealer uses one of the above labs on the ban list then you can not mention there products.

Its not about just censoring its about protecting this site and Jasmins business as well as protecting the consumers who look to this forum to find information on where to buy products, Androtics dosnt want to bad mouth them so they take another view and ask that we just dont talk about them. Not many forums, and I am a member in alot of them, allow you to speak or promote other products on there sites. Not when its a store forum. So I am sorry if some people get upset by this but it is what it is.

Tisha

[remmy]

@November

my EST from LS is in dropper form..not spray. is it the same as yours ?

yeah, it’s in a dropper form but i dilute it as well, like Tisha said. i dilute 1ml of EST to 2ml of perfume. it’s worked great so far

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