I’m a guy, gay, and got IS/B to try out on some “straight” guys at school to see what the effects would be. I have been searching the forums and couldnt find anything but, is it possible to OD on IS/B and what are the signs?
Well we dont have a lot of men using IS/B gay or straight. Its not possible really for a women wearing it to get the classic OD as desribed here but it could be for you.
IS/B is soft sweet and kittenish. On a guy without other male pheromones this could do two things. Make you a target for other guys and not in a good way or just make you seem very feminine for your gender.
People sometimes mistake gay for overly feminine because of the way they are portrayed in the media. Its not always the case. Gay men are attracted to basically the same pheromones women are attracted to softened just a little by the more female pheromones.
I would say get some Ammo and use your IS/B with that.
Oh I just wanted to add that pheromones wont cause sexual attraction between a straight male and a another male. Some pheromones can cause bonding and a buddy type response but not IS/B
Tisha
Thanks for the quick reply. Theres a guy I like and I’ve noticed that when I’m wearing TUTH he talks to me a lot more and gives me all of his attention so I was wondering what IS/B would do. I really think he might be bi but I dont really know, but I get the most obvious reactions when I have TUTH on. He also seems a little shy around me when I have IH on as well.
How did he react around IS/B ? Try layering those two together. If he responds to TUTH well then spiking it a little with IS/B may soften just enough to make him feel more comfortable. You may want to check out P74 to layer with it as well.
Be sure to let us know how it works for you.
Tisha
Well we dont really talk but we do have english class together which is where I notice the effects form the mones. Everytime I have TUTH he talks to me a lot and listens to me. I’ve only tried IS/B once and didnt notice anything…it was as if I didnt have any mones on at all so today I’m going to try 2 sprays of IS/B rather than one, and I will probably add a little IH. I am getting low on TUTH so I’m not going to use it today but I will use it with IS/B next time I have class with him.
Ahh Haa…
Your not 30 like it says in your profile are you ? 
I dont care but it makes a difference with mone advice
Has he given you any indicators that he is gay or Bi ?
Just paying attention to you with TUTH on is not a indicator. TUTH is highly masculine and he may have just been quiet and uncomfortable before you wore it because he is not gay and senses you are. Now your giving off a higher masculine vibe and it could just be giving him a “just one of the guys” feel.
The IS/B on its own may put him off if he is straight because then he is getting that feeling from you again. Some straight guys have a hard time talking to gay men especially if your still in young. They worry about what other people think more.
Of course try the IS/B but my intuition and experience tells me its not going to hit the mark on its own. I think if he is Bi then the TUTH IS/B combo would open him up more. I think ammo IS/B would be even better but work with what you have first.
Tisha
No I am not 30 
, I saw a few posts about younger members being banned so I changed it because I really love this forum and definately plan on buying more mones in the future. I am 15 and in high school.
So today I wore 2 sprays of IH and 3 of IS/B all to the neck. I got the same results from him as I do with one spray of TUTH. He would give me his full attention whenever I made a sound. (Without mones I cant get his attention no matter what I do.) He also seemed a lot, and I mean a lot, more comfortable around me. With TUTH, or with no mones, whenever I get too close he moves away a little. Today we were both sitting on a small desk talking and were really close but he did not move away like he usually does. I will definately be trying this combo with him again.
He may be moving away because TUTH is known to be aggressive. He may just be discovering his interest in men so its natural for him to pull back some and for you to still grab his attention.
Not saying this is what is defiently happening because your not sure if he is Bi or gay but its a possiblity. I think you just need to play with the ratio of TUTH to IS/B and IH that you use and you will hit on something that works well for you. I still think AMMO would be better suited for you then TUTH though. AMMO is still sexy and attractive but not as pushy. Its more intruiguing.
I have never seen them ban young people here. Pheromones just work different in different age ranges and you have to be more mindful of the advice to you give.
Tisha
The -none in the TUTH is probably giving off an alpha signal to him. That attention you’re receiving is a response to that.
Also what Tisha said is right - what you’re going to get is more of a buddy vibe.
I’d recommend Instant Openness or Instant Honesty, really. Sexual attraction needs to be there already for it to work for you in your specific case. If its there and meant to be, those two may help make it come out - no pun intended.
I will definately order AMMO when I have money again. The only reason I got TUTH is because I had never used mones before and I didn’t really think anything was going to happen so I was going for the stronger of the two. I know now though what mones can do so AMMO is on my list. I have IO and IH so I will try those with him as well to see how he reacts.
Thanks so much guys, this is really good advice and is helping a lot.
OK so I have been reading this thread for a couple of days trying to decide if I should say anything or not. I have made my decision.
I don’t want you to get your feelings hurt so I need to reiterate what Tisha said before about straight men not being attracted to gay men. Even pheromones can’t change that.
I personally wear IS/B sometimes from 1/4 to 1 full spray. I’m straight, but I wanted to test it because I’ve read about other moners using feminine mones to increase female attraction. I wear it with -none and a314 or some other masculine product. I have worn it by itself at 1 full spray. I have also done the same with IS/A. What I found is that men are relatively comfortable with it. Women however go crazy. They are a lot more open to showing IOI’s that they normally try to hide. It appears that IS/B and IS/A is a straight male attractant for women. However when worn by a man the signal seems to either get ignored, create a level of comfort or increased male bonding (as in you have recently been with a woman), or it attracts females and causes them to have what would normally be self effects of the product.
Now that I have said that, I believe that even straight males can be attracted to feminine characteristics in gay men. Feminine attracts Masculine and vice versa. However, the attraction may not be sexual at all. We are after all conscious creatures with our own personal values. If you don’t know that this guy you like is into guys, then you need to find out. I would stick with some IH and IO and do what every relationship book that is written says to do. Get to know the person you are interested in.
While I agree that no mone will attract a straight male to another male a gay mix is all about ratio between the female and male mones. I am going to try to explain just so when you order in the future you kinda know what to go for and why. I know mones cost alot for a 15 year old so you want to make the most of your money. I am glad you have IO and IH already.
Josie using 1/4 spray with his other masculine mones is great. It gives him a sensitive vibe without taking away from his masculinty. He is using the IS/B to steer or buffer your masculine mixes. When a straight man go’s over with either TAL or TAH the attraction and IOI are not sexual attraction but more on a platonic level. Women love gay men. They make excellent friends. Its like a safe haven, a male perspective without worrying he wants to get in yiour pants.
A gay man would use the same thing but in different ratios to attract other gay men. Daniel you would use male mones to because gay men are attracted to males however you would steer it a lot more with the feminine mix like IS/B
Males and females make the exact same pheromone except for copulins of course. I make anone just in a much lower ratio then you. You make EST just in a much lower ratio then me. My opinion from making mixes for gay friends has been you meet in the middle. You soften up the male mix much more then you would in a mix made for men to attract women.
Its all the same mones just different ratios.
This is why I am telling you to use both TUTH and IS/B and not just one or the other. If mystery boy was in stock the ratio would be perfect but its out. Personally to get a good MB vibe I would suggest AMMO IS/B Ishine and IO with a little bit of P74. I know thats a lot of mixes to purchase though so I am working with what you got and whittling down what you can use cause I know your 15.
Ammo you would need to buffer less because it has anol in it and its better suited to you. You have IS/B IO and IH so you can use those with it. The only thing missing is the TAA which is Ishine. I think these three would be your best bet if he is BI or gay but they wont make him that if he isnt.
Tisha
I understand that mones can’t change someones sexuality. The reason I’m doing this is because I honestly think he is bi, but doesnt really know it…or doesnt want to accept it. I also understand that gay/bi guys are attracted to male mones but since he identifies as straight then I figure the female mones might help a little. I really don’t know but I fiugre the only way to find out is to try. From what I have seen they are making a big diference, but what is going on in his head I probably wont find out for a while. I don’t plan on giving up anytime soon though.