Putative Pheromone P109 - Happy, Bubbly, Friendly

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\**Putative Pheromone P109 - Happy, Bubbly, Friendly **

Experimone**? **Putative Pheromone P109
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Putative P109 :: Putative Pheromones :: Androtics Direct
Available in all dosages between 125 nanograms per spray to 5000 micrograms per spray.

Dosage Guidance (Successful Ranges Tested So Far):

Common ways to apply: 12.5 mcg - calm and contented, nice feeling, 20 mcg to 37.5 mcg - bubbly, happy, 50mcg - jovial, bouncy

*Please keep in mind this is merely what has worked well in the past for a very limited number of users who have conducted a limited number of tests. This information is merely provided as a convenient starting point.

It’s good to be open minded and adventurous, as it’s quite possible that dosages much smaller and perhaps even larger provide useful (though often different) responses. Many molecules we have are active in at least 2 useful ranges.*

**Observed P109 Effects: **

Happy, Attractive, Light, Silly, Friendly, Bubbly, Uplifting

Majority of users expressed that P109 gives an uplifting, happy feeling to the user. The users felt they became friendly and lost social anxiety. It helps a person to interact with other people. In spite of that, a few said it had no effect to them. One reason said is that they are used to another pheromone/putative. One user attributed P109 with irateness of his family members. Another user said it would help a person mellow in a moody day but not really make someone ?up?.

Some users said P109 has little to no external effects, though many users stated people on their surroundings acted better on them with P109. My observation is that P109 has an effect to the user and that uplifting and confident effect to a user made others respond nicely to the user. It’s an indirect effect at least. Pets like dogs and cats are said to be affected by P109.

Using P109 with other products also create a more intense effect.

**Interesting Combos: **

  • 1 drop of A314 + 1 spray TUTH + 1 spray 7.5mcg P79 + 1 spray 12.5mcg P109 ? giggly, intimate
  • 2 sprays of P109 on the neck (20mcg total) + 1 spray of IS 2x on the neck + 1 spray of IS 2x on the hair ? delightful, friendly
  • 7 sprays of 10 mcg P109 + Instant shine 3 sprays ? happy and friendly
  • 5 sprays of 10mcg P109 + 4 sprays of tal (12.5mcg) ? calm but serious, polite responses from others
  • Feel free to suggest combos of your own on this thread [link]!

Real User Feedback:

Special Thanks to NFN for compiling the research portion of this thread. Be sure to give her massive rep points!

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This thread is now opened.

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Wow my experience was adifferant with it. I found inhibition was completely gone and it did make others chattier around me. I call it the I don’t give a dam in a bottle. That is how I felt when I wore it like I didn’t care about anything when I wore it

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I am wearing it right now. I believe I have the same urge to socialize as you all have stated, quite possibly because “I don’t give a damn”

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I just may have to order more and retest. I remember it was like a IDGAF attitude and it made me and others forget things

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Tried 20mcg P109 while going to work.

I feel like A314, but more into a straight face mood. Put the word “soldier” on it, and I have to say it describes my feelings when I went to work quite perfectly. Focussed and direct to the point. Not really speeding, but more relaxed and less talkalive. Getting stuff done is a keyword.

Unfortunately no real interactions and stuff, so not much to say about it other than that it gives me quite the good alpha vibe. Its hard to describe the feelings I get from this one, but if I have to place it in a character it would be some biker guy at a shady bar enjoying his beer. Calm yet having an air of power.

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Two and a half sprays (one partially missed my neck) to my neck of P109 @ 5mcg on my neck at home alone for testing @11:32PM

Now that I’ve gotten used to the scent of Neroli, I’m able to discern the mental effect of the Neroli scent has on me opposed to the pheromones.

I did two drops of A314 on my jaw line around 3PM, so the effects are close to worn off.

The P109 makes me feel kind of like IS. Uplifted, but in a different direction of uplifting. I have more of a desire to make chit chat with people, even though there is nobody around. This could be an effect of the fact that I am wearing a new pheromone and want to try it out. I might be feeling more confident as in my inner dialog improves under the influence of this within 5 minutes of wearing this. I feel more capable of relaxing.

8AM the next day: I mostly felt inclined to socialize but there was nobody around. This might be effective in getting the friendly side out of someone.

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I sprayed 10 mcg of P109 around 9:30AM. I felt the same uplifting sensation a few minutes after application. I met a client for a few minutes, and there were no noticeable affects with her. She communicates openly and freely the previous times I saw her. The self effect I had with her, was I felt like being more agreeable, and less jumpy. I went to the gym after, and felt the same increased level of increased agreeability among my interactions with people.

I did biceps, tricep, and ab workouts along with 20 minutes in the steam room. Now I’m back in my office typing this report. I imagine I’m clean of the P109 after the steam room, sweating in the gym and the shower. I’m curious to find out how P109 works with A314.

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Hello, hello. Welcome to another edition in “The Chronicles of chrisEPZ”

Tonights mix is

3PM: Two drops of A314 on jaw line

8:40PM:

20MCG P83 on forearms
1 IS X2 spray
2 sprays P109 @ 5mcg

Once I arrive to the parking lot @ 8:50PM: two sprays of IH regular strength on forearms

The location: Upscale, neighborhood bar / pool hall.

The company: K (Male friend from high school) and J (Never met him before)

Self effects: On the drive over, I feel very bouncy, upbeat, in a good mood. More enticed to speed and run through empty stop sign intersections than usual. I should minimize driving with this on.

The vibe between the three of us was cozier than I was expecting and I’d attribute this to the IH.

I felt closer to K than I have in the past. I told him “I love you” which I’ve never told him. We’ve been through some good and bad times together in the years.

J and I were getting along. He was open to accepting me.

At one point in the night, K asked if I was on any drugs. I said no. He said “Your super upbeat. It seems like you were at a couple pubs before this” I admit, I was very upbeat, talkative and happy. I attribute these effects that others noticed on me to the P83 and P109 combo. I see the possibility of the effect being narrowed down to P109 in the future. I told him “Pheromones. P83 and P109” and he laughed. I sprayed him with ammo and TUTH when we were in Vegas in January, so he knows I experiment with these things.

My hypothesis of the P109 self-effect: I felt more talkative, bubbly and outgoing than normal.

I noticed K started to pick up the same bubbly feelings and emotional patterns after he asked if I was on drugs. K and I maintained less physical distance than J and I did, so he had greater exposure to the stuff.

P109 seems like it is a lot of fun. When I have sprayed P83, I did not get the same result. It’s still possible that this experience wouldn’t have happened with P109 alone, and only happens with P83 added.

I had a lot of fun tonight, and I think the pheromones added to it.

The chronicles will be continued in another post, soon.

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Meet with K at the same pool hall from post #92 with his male friend G.

30MCG of P96 & P83 at the forearms

1 IS x2 on neck

2 drops A314 on jaw

2 sprays P109

self effects:
I feel the normal god-like confidence from A314. My theory is that it’s best to let go of myself and let the A314 (as well as all pheromones but mostly A314) have control. I feel less rushed when wearing A314. I put on the pheromones and went to drink a cup of water. Usually I’d chug it really quickly and in a hurry, but the A314 slows me down and makes me take my time. It makes me take my time with other things, and calms me down. I need to give control of my thoughts and feelings to the pheromones (especially A314) to achieve better congruency & the best results.

P96 makes it difficult for me to ignore how I feel, makes me more aware of my emotions and how I feel.

The same super chatty and talkative effect of P109 was there, but not as intense. I might be building a tolerance

P83: I’m a little tight lipped at first, but I put on a sociable face and get to being outgoing. The P83 might have sped up this process.

Effect on others:

We play a 10-15 minute game of pool. Respect hits from the A314, people put me on the same pedestal and interact with me like I’m a creature from a higher dimension.

No significant effects on others while we are playing pool. I feel like I’m on a high of confidence at this time.

Go to the bar at the hotel across the street and start a conversation with the female bartender who’s probably 30 – 45. Her and I connect very well, and I think it is the P96. I understand women think with their emotions and men think logically. I hypothesize P96 helps men connect to the emotional style of thinking. I notice one of the male bar tenders shrug her off – I couldn’t imagine having that response to her because we were connecting so well, and I think he was shrugging her off because the lack of emotional connection he has with her.

P109 – I start to get louder and more vocal at this point. I think less before speaking, less social anxiety and more free flowing, non-restricted speech.

I drop off G to his car and go to another bar with K. I spray

One spray of ammo summer to him and myself on a wrist

A very similar sensation of warmth that IG gives is felt. They’re 90% the same.

When we get to the bar, there are no women in their early to mid 20s. We sit down and have a drink. Our conversation is flowing freely and is upbeat. I feel the androstenone rush and I think he does too. We leave the bar, I drop him off and call it a night.

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Hi chrisepz!

Love your reports. I am interested on the combos though. While it is right to identify the individual’s effects (just like what you did above), I think it would be interesting to hear from users such as you, a description of the combos effect as one.

:slight_smile:

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My first report from a year and a half ago when I was newer.

I received P109 as a freebie in one of my orders and this is my experience with it. It is 6% Neroli 5 MCG a spray. 3 sprays to my neck 1 left, 1 right, and 1 center. Self effects are pretty good. I am in a better mood not as much as I am when I wear TAA , but still noticeable. I feel inhibition is gone completely, and I just don’t seem to care about much. It seems to help with anxiety a little bit to. I haven’t seen any negatives with this. I have tried from 1 to 5 sprays and think for me I find 3 sprays good. I tried 4 sprays at work 2 sprays on neck left and right and 1 on each wrist. I find some co workers seem to talk about things that they normally wouldn’t, like they let there guard down and don’t care. I get good effects on both women and men. There seems to be nothing sexual at all with this one. I can see using this in a mix for breaking LMR though.

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P109 Report

For reference I got this same putative some time ago as a freebie and reported on it and it is Page 1 Post #5 in my journal. It was when I was really new and learning how to test so the report is not that good. I have not looked at that report or looked anything up to keep true the Androtics way of blind testing and I wrote everything down I got and am now transferring it to here.

This will be 5MCG a spray in 6% Neroli

15MCG

3 sprays 1 left and 1 right of neck, and 1 to throat for 15MCG Total. Right away I feel more carefree and in the moment with no worries about daily stress or the stress of what I have to do tomorrow. A total in the moment feeling with no worries of anything. I notice the Wife is more happy and bubbly and has a similar attitude. She is a school teacher and has a lot of work to do with school starting soon and is stressed out to the max. But within 10 minutes of exposure to this she is relaxed and not worried what she has to do for tomorrow. It is 5PM and normally around this time she would be home and stressed about tomorrow. Well not this time which is a nice change. We are enjoying time with our daughter and having family time and playing a board game together. Nothing fancy and this is my only test subject this time and the self effects I got, but it sure was a nice change and know this putative was at work here.

30MCG

I start with 15MCG and spray 1 left 1 right on neck, and 1 throat. I let set in for about 10 minutes and feel the same way I did before at 15MCG and I see the same effects from wife. After the 10 minutes I spray another 15MCG and over the same exact app spots 1 left 1 right of neck and 1 to throat again.

I really feel this thing now. I am getting the same effect as at 15MCG, just much stronger. I do not see a transition with this molecule and remember I ran out of it the last freebie to test this and that is why my tests are higher in dose starting out.

We are going to wife’s brothers B-Day dinner at a Mexican restaurant. She decides to drive so we go in her car and here is where things get hectic. We get in her car and it is trashed. Now to make a long story short when I met my wife I took everything and anything I had and bought her a car and paid it off to make sure she would have something nice and dependable for her and her daughter. This is like the 5th or 6th time I have found this thing totally trashed and it just makes me feel like my hard work is treated like crap so I really lose it and bad this time and even mention I do not know if I want to even stay with her anymore as I have about had it.

Well I finally just stay quite after 5 minutes of talking and just sit in my thoughts. Now this putative is at work here and I just could not stay upset at all no matter how hard I tried. Real calm like I just expressed my concerns and how it made me sad, and then I just took a beep breath and we went to the B-Day Dinner. This is somewhat of an eye-opener. With this molecule on if something is wrong or you get upset, just take 5-10 minutes to think about things. After that it just seemed like all the right words came out of my mouth to fix things and make it all better and without trying or thinking about things to. Right away things are better and we are having fun again instead of drawing things out 2-3 days of being pissed off.

We get there to the B-Day dinner. With 30MCG there is no over the top hits, but I notice some really important things with the molecule though and I find the hits are more subtle, but really important I find with what I got. We get there and there is about 16 of us all family and we sit in the back all by our selves and there are 2 tables where 8 sit at one and 8 at another. I sit in the middle of one of the tables so I can observe how interactions go.

This thing is a social lubricant especially in larger crowds when they are within about 5 feet of the mone cloud. I will break down what I observe by table and I am sitting at table 2.

Table 1 about 3 different conversations going on and I notice a few people trying to talk over each other. A lot more noisy to in general and the intensity of people are very high in there attitude and body language and being very vocal like they feel the need to project there opinion and voice to get through to there targets. People are all over the place and jumping back and forth with different conversations and the whole dynamic is just everyone seems scattered with everything even the whole ordering of there food with the waitress. Seems somewhat dysfunctional socially over there.

Table 2 This is where I am at and I am in the middle with everyone within 5 feet or less. Everyone calmly orders there drinks and everyone is interacting with everyone in a calm state and there seems to be this unity in that everyone is having the same conversation and enjoying it. No one is talking over no one and the general vibe is calm and smooth with more soft laughing and having fun and just being in the moment. More smiling and even notice my wife to the left and father in law in front of me pupils are dilated more than normal. Waitress takes our order and it takes her half the time as it did the other table and no mess ups either when we got our food unlike the other table that had a few from the waitress being distracted from them being very loud and intense. With conversations no one was talking over anyone else and everyone was very polite when talking and the others all listened. Overall vibe is very mellow and calm, with some light laughing and everyone is cheery.

Overall I am very happy with results. Effects seem to be more subtle and this seems to work very well among group settings. I have tested this thing in low doses and do not have a whole lot to report and I actually get the same effects at 10-30MCG pretty much, just it hits harder at higher doses and I see no transition in the way this molecule behaves.

15MCG P109/Michael Storer Kadota

3 sprays and same as before 1 left 1 right of neck and 1 throat. I kind of wanted to test this with the Kadota as a cover scent to see what happens. I spray the P109 and wait 10 minutes and I get the same consistent self effects. After this I spray 3 sprays of the Kadota over the same app spots.

I have to solo test this cologne and report later on. But I love the fig tree smell over this molecule and it totally overpowers the Neroli , but it is a nice sweet smell that is not bad and I actually like it more than the FF20 /Himalayan scent and it is not over powering.

On the car ride there I see it effecting the wife the same as it always has and the stress is gone and worries of life to. We get there and start shopping and the woman that greets us is maybe 35 white and right away she comments on the scent and says she really likes it. Also she is smiling and seems to be in a good mood right away, but nothing out of the ordinary. I thank her and we grab our basket and start shopping.

I will try my best to separate the hits I got from the P109 verse the scent from the Kadota as this is tough because what I find is the scent draws people in and causes them to breathe deeper and what this does is allows the molecules to work even better and hitting people even harder.

What happened with this setup is with men I got nothing and this could be due to the scent who knows, but with women 3 separate women I came really close to 30-50 age range 2 White and 1 Hispanic, they started to breathe deeply and then I got a comment on the scent of the cologne and within 5 minutes they all became more friendly and more relaxed and almost to the point of the P109 being disinhibiting. What was weird is my wife did not mind either and normally she would have been upset, but it was like we were all having fun with no worries. No jealousy or anything which I found to be weird. Again the effects are more subtle than in your face and you have to open people up a little to see the maximum effect from this molecule.

A314 REV32/30MCG P96/15MCGP109

3 drops of A314 to jawline, 15MCG a spray of P96 1 left and 1 right neck, and 3 sprays P109 1 to each wrist and 1 to throat.

Normally as a general mix I use IS instead of P109 so I thought I would change the 2 out to see what I would get. The setting is church. I feel very happy, but not as intense as I would with the IS, but I do feel more carefree so like a tradeoff as far as self effects. I am in just the moment attitude and I love it with no stresses right now.

I get there with the family and I am getting the respect/emotional vibe I normally get from the A314 / P96 setup I expect. People are happy to see me, not over the top IS happiness I am used to , but everyone I interact with seems to be complaining a whole lot less about there problems in there life and seem to be more carefree and this takes about 5 minutes to take place. Within this 5 minutes also I notice people are invading my space also and drawing in closer to the point of almost toughing me men and women of all ages and races. There may be a possible synergistic effect of the P96 and this molecule. Everyone seems more loosened up also. I think this molecule is better suited for more uninhibited environments.

Strength - I give an 8 and the effects are more subtle even in higher doses.

Length of Effects - About 5 hours on average in indoor environments with temp being around 75 on average

Tenacity - More of a slow burner, with a good cover scent it does change this a little bit into more of an attacker.

Effectiveness & Consistency - I give a 9 as this thing never changed and stayed the same the whole time and no matter what dose I tried to.

Diffusion/Sillage - The mone cloud was about 5 feet or so. People did not seem to follow and I had to do a little work and within 5 minutes this molecule would hit people.

Texture For some reason a hard smooth granite counter top comes to mine.

Thank you guys for the freebie and in return here is my report