Putatives 75-77

[Gone_with_the_Wind]

REDACTED expressed interest in these putatives in the exchange below. I’ve broken this into its own thread.

GwtW
You have P75, P76, and P77 (or are they all combined)? Care to share any results with these putatives?

Thanks,

@Gone_with_the_Wind

I have them all at 2.5 mcg/spray concentration, with no added scent. They have a strong smell even at that concentration. I like it but it’s definately funky genital smell. I usually spray them in my genital area because it seems that’s where these smells belong. Otherwise I’d be a true “dickhead.”

I’ve tried them all together and one at a time. It may take me a while to get a feel for the behavioral effects of these though.

GwtW,
yeah I know what you mean about a funky smell. On the other hand, one could say that Androstenone smells funky too and belongs only in the genital area too. Just cover P75, P76, and P77 with cologne like you would with Androstenone. Lets not just assume because MHarris said something to the effect that these molecules could be found in the genital region, that that is where they belong and only there and close our minds off. I mean you probably wouldn’t close your mind off like that but am just making a point.

Anyway man if you and your wife do get round to testing P75-P77, I would love to hear some or all of the following things tried:

• P75 in low (2.5 mcg), medium (30 mcg), and high (60 mcg) alone or with a mix you usually use in intimate encounters;
• P76 in low (2.5 mcg), medium (30 mcg), and high (60 mcg) alone or with a mix you usually use in intimate encounters;
• a comparison of the effects of P76 against Androstenone in every day life (SwingerMD said P76 is Androstenone-like in that it can cause ‘tense’ reactions - perhaps lower doses are better for this one like as in starting at 2.5 mcg);
• see if P77 gives any kind of pheromone results at all (none have been reported on the forum so far - it might well be a ‘dud’).

If you don’t feel comfortable reporting on the intimate encounters on the forum I totally understand. If you like you can PM me or otherwise just say general effects - like sex was more ‘animalistic’ or whatever else each of these putatives do.

Try not to combined these putatives with each other. I mean you could combine them with mixes that you use already and know well but try and see what the effects of P75, P76, and P77 respectively on their own are (covered of course with a cologne that you regularly use)…

If you do give some feedback, I would really appreciate it. I mean Androstenone is like the ‘volatile, sexual’ pheromone and these molecules are the closest putatives to it. There has to be potential there even if only in intimate encounters…

@Gone_with_the_Wind

I like the smell of none and don’t mind putting it on my neck and head.

Experimenting more with 75-77 is certainly on my list. I just have the 2.5 mcg/spray versions now so I won’t be megadosing right away.

[Gone_with_the_Wind]

Trial:

7.5 mcg p75 to torso before bedtime

Wife’s initial reaction.

“That’s smelly. I think it might give me a headache.”

Sex was good. Smell was a definate component of the experience. Stinky but good.

Afterwards wife says “You’re still smelly.”

Morning debreifing with the wife.

She thought I was more agressive than normal, but wasn’t complaining. Also noticed changes in style and hip motions.

Took a good shower this morning.

[Socrates]

@Gone_with_the_Wind

Trial:

7.5 mcg p75 to torso before bedtime

Wife’s initial reaction.

“That’s smelly. I think it might give me a headache.”

Sex was good. Smell was a definate component of the experience. Stinky but good.

Afterwards wife says “You’re still smelly.”

Morning debreifing with the wife.

She thought I was more agressive than normal, but wasn’t complaining. Also noticed changes in style and hip motions.

Took a good shower this morning.

Wow great thread GWTW! I have given you rep for this, we have been waiting so long to figure out what P75 is good for on the forum!

Perhaps you could cover the P75 with cologne or something next time if you think that the ‘smell was a definate component of the experience’. I believe that it is the pheromonal effect that the P75 brings rather than the smell that might have made the sex seem better.

I would be interested in the future hearing about your thoughts and comparisons of things like P75 to P76 to Androstenone in intimate encounters. Is your wife tense at all around P75? She said you were more aggressive than normal, was she?

From where I see it, P75 might offer one enhanced, passionate Androstenone-like sex without the tension that Androstenone brings with it (and the unpredictability). What do you think?

• Visionary

[Gone_with_the_Wind]

Perhaps you could cover the P75 with cologne or something next time if you think that the ‘smell was a definate component of the experience’. I believe that it is the pheromonal effect that the P75 brings rather than the smell that might have made the sex seem better.

My feel is that the smell is part of the essence of these molecules. My instincts tell me not to try to swamp it out with a cover.

From where I see it, P75 might offer one enhanced, passionate Androstenone-like sex without the tension that Androstenone brings with it (and the unpredictability). What do you think?

I don’t get tension from the none with my wife. Probably because we know each other so well. I get a different feel from p75. Its worth exploring. Perhaps some others will comment on their experiences.

Is your wife tense at all around P75? She said you were more aggressive than normal, was she?

Didn’t notice unusual tension or aggression from my wife.

[Gone_with_the_Wind]

Trial:

7.5 mcg p76 to torso before bedtime

Very similar to p75. Sex seemed a little mellower or less agressive. That might either be due to a difference between 75 and 76 or the fact that I was getting used to the effects. Also this was a day or 2 after the p75 trial.

[Socrates]

@Gone_with_the_Wind

Trial:

7.5 mcg p76 to torso before bedtime

Very similar to p75. Sex seemed a little mellower or less agressive. That might either be due to a difference between 75 and 76 or the fact that I was getting used to the effects. Also this was a day or 2 after the p75 trial.

So P76 makes sex better as well? But just a little mellower or less agressive than with P75? Like you said, you may just be getting used to the ‘effects’ of these two putative ‘cousins’. I guess, you could try them both alone a few more times in that situation before concluding what each of their effects on sex are at that dosage (7.5 mcg).

Let us know of any changes of behaviour from your wife as well in the bedroom from P75 or P76. Do either make her more passionate? Does sex seem better for her as well or just you?

I wish we both got higher dosages of P75 and P76 though to experiment with. The optimal dose for P76, from SwingerMD’s posts, was like between 30 and 60 mcg. For P75, I found 60 mcg to have a pretty strong effect during sex a few times for me. These kind of dosages may be more effective for sex than what you are using.

I would love to get a few more 12.5 mcg per spray ToGos of P75 and P76, but there are so many other products I want to get/replenish (that I rely on more) so I’m not sure I will even bother with adding these two putatives to my next order.

-Visionary

[Socrates]

@Gone_with_the_Wind

Trial:

7.5 mcg p75 to torso before bedtime

Wife’s initial reaction.

“That’s smelly. I think it might give me a headache.”

Sex was good. Smell was a definate component of the experience. Stinky but good.

Afterwards wife says “You’re still smelly.”

Morning debreifing with the wife.

She thought I was more agressive than normal, but wasn’t complaining. Also noticed changes in style and hip motions.

Took a good shower this morning.

Gone,
any more on P75 or P76? I am very curious about what each one of these two adds in the bedroom as opposed to molecules like Androstenone, P83, etc. If you have tried P75 again, let us know if you notice your wife getting more aroused/animalistic than usual…

-Visionary

[Gone_with_the_Wind]

I haven’t done a lot more with these.

It will be interesting to hear what some other folks have to say about them.