question about ghosting from pheramone OD?

Crazy as this sounds is it possible my natural levels are enough to have the ghosting effect? I put thought into it but I have this effect about me where I can walk in front of people’s sight and they would not notice. I could be getting something from the fridge in my house and when my mom walks in she gets a little startled and caught off guard that I was just in that room and she didn’t notice, or I could be shaving in the bathroom with the door open and if somebody just passed by they’d get startled as if I came out of nowhere to scare them.

Would this be an example of the ghosting effect? can’t say I noticed any IOI’s in the short time of using mone’s but it’s also winter and NY has been like slush puddles for awhile, but still no real IOI’s in the class rooms.

i dont think thats ghosting. maybe youre just a ninja :stuck_out_tongue:

seriously though, i doubt anyone’s natural mones level should be high enough to OD

on top of that people give off several different types of mones. and ive heard an average 22 year old body builder gives off about 2.5mcg’s of -none i doubt that would be enough to ghost you

try wearing something like IG or a314 where they would notice you more

I used to scare people when I wore a black hoody on the street, i’m not ignored in public but IOI’s have been weak the last 2 weeks using Ammo, IS, and Scent of Eros. Actual conversations are fine and probably doing better since. just unsure if Ammo might be doing more harm than good with only 1 spray. My natural subconscious ninja skills haven’t improved with it so I cant say for sure on that.

I have seen results from SOE alone, I know IS does it’s job.

Its possible that some people naturally make a pheromone that makes people less conscious of them with all the putatives being tested who knows but I dont think its a natural OD.

The visual effect of the hoodie was probably more intimidating then your signature. As far as you mom and those who startle… People startle and dont notice there surroundings as well when they are in there own thoughts and not being mindful of there surroundings. Maybe you just move gracefully so people dont hear you coming or see dont you lumbering about. I dont think its connected to your signature though.

Tisha

Tisha is right. Your mum was in a comfortable surrounding i.e. her home. This means a safe environment, one in which she is not mindful of her every step into the next room, through the next door. She goes about the place without a care in the world, it’s her comfort zone and her own personal area.

I often do this at home as well. I know my brother is in, after having spoken to him, but subconsciously my mind switches off and becomes accustomed to being in relaxed, and when I do next see my bro, it comes as a shock.

It’s different to being in the outside world, where your looking consciously when to next cross the road, who is behind the corner and what is behind a closed door. Our inbuilt senses in these environments are at their peak, where as indoors I feel they are to some extent switched off as they do not need to be actively used.

I have a cousin this happens to all the time. It’s not his pheromone signature I can assure you. It’s because he’s so painfully shy and unassuming that he’s raised being totally unnoticable and unmemorable to such an art form that he could probably not show up for his own wedding and nobody would notice.

He speaks in soft low tones and even then only for a few words. He dresses in muted colors and non descript style, slouches and avoids eye contact and basically does everything possible to not be noticed and then acts hurt or offended when nobody notices him.
I suggest doing some self evaluation in these area’s. It’s possible that for subconscious reasons you’ve conditioned yourself to behave as if not being noticed is better than the alternative and trained yourself to become invisible.

I have to agree with Rad, it’s more than likely a lack of presence. There are a lot of breathing/yoga stretches you can do to help balance and ground you which will make others aware of you.

As for the mones side of things, unless you’re eating tons of testosterone foods i can’t see it happening. Your body wouldn’t produce an unatural amount on a daily basis.

Climax are you a naturally confident person? I have myself experienced what you are talking about, I used to startle people on a regular occurrence, and I even mentioned it to my friend before that somtimes I felt invisible and sometimes people just didnt see me. It wasnt until I started working on my confidence using a combo of mones, subs, some pua and books like 40th power, that I noticed people seeing me and interacting with me much more then usual, now that I’m 1000% more confident I rarely startle anyone and I don’t get that feeling that I’m being missed out. This may just be in my head but I do beleive that true confidence gives you a presence that can be felt aswell as seen almost like an aura. Hope this makes sense.

I actually have good posture and I do workout, if anything my Back and Leg muscles are much more developed than the chest/arms like many people seem to focus on, and this is not a confidence issue, it just happens. Lets say 2 people are talking and I enter the conversation one of the 2 will have their back turned, I could call a name from 5 feet away while walking and it still has this alarming effect, Or I can just walk past and not say anything minding my business and passing by, somebody might just jump. somebody else simple walks by and it does not happen like that.

This doesn’t happen every time but it happens to me where I never see this effect on anybody else.

I’d have to say I walk more quietly than most people and I sure am not a slow walker either

Would not help having a borderline monotone voice, but less than half of these even require me talking