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Can’t say but not sure if you can. I never have but I have never gone beyond 3 sprays. I think you might ghost but most likely you would just be wasting product.
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They mostly ignore you as you put them on subconscious sensory overload.
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I would think whatever leaks out during shipment. Unless the bubble wrap picked up a scent somehow in the shipping room.
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That has been an item of discussion before. Possibly but I doubt it.
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Been too long since I have been in school …
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I would go with Instant Gentleman, Instant Honesty and perhaps some Shine.
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Possibly - often the neroli scent will wear off before the pheros do. But I would expect most the pheros to last 3-6 hours with none lasting even longer.
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Not hard - just scrub good.
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That happens with pheros.
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Armpits and groin area a lot.
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Never ever spray pheros in your armpits. Trust me. Did I mention never? It just creates a stank as the bacterian in these areas causes the pheros to break down quicker.
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Sure. Or better yet hit the gym and build those muscles up. Lots of push-ups and sit-ups in your room work well too. Nothing like good health and physique to help the old self-confidence.
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Creating controversy just to create is being a bit of an asshole. Creating controversy because you are stating your honest opinion is OK.
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sounds like a good mix too me but just be careful with the TUTH. I would really think you do not need it.
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That is why I prefer IH to IO for most purposes.
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ROTFLMAO. 21-24 older? 30-40 ewww? You very funny. But no you do not need more none. You just need to look seriously older than 16-18 becuase there are not too many girls in the 21 - 24 age range who would date someone 18 much less someone they thought was underage.
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YOu will most likely not ghost in a none OD. You will more likely scare off girls and get aggression and belligerent attitudes from guys. Be careful with the none around girls in the 16-18 age range. It is very easy to scare them. By the time they hit the 21-14 age range, they are more receptive.
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Definitely. Just do a quick search - lots of posts on that subject.
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Do not be loud for the sake of being loud. A deep voice is good. Speak normally - make them focus on listening to you. But speak authoritatively and intelligently. Stupid but authoritative will only get you laughed at. Even your jokes should be smart …
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Maybe it kinda depends on which pheros they are wearing but people will kinda zoom in subconsciously on the pheros that are grabbing their attention.
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IO will send out a “talk to me” message. If you do not talk to her, she will probably speak to someone else whether she is within range of your pheros or not.
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Education. Read up on what is going on in the world around you. Really think about both.
Honestly no idea, I would imagine it’s similar but more mild than an OD on A314. People react as if I’m overbearing, politely asking for a favor seems like I’m demanding it, playful and well meaning teasing and joking is taken as mean spirited insults, and even paying somebody a compliment can be taken as sarcasm.
The couple of times I was ghosted it was like discomfort to interacting with me. Unless it was impossible to pull off people would stay around 6 feet from me at any given time. If I made it impossible by positioning myself so they were practically cornered they would usually get nervous and shift around a lot. I’d be ignored unless I forced the issue. I could say hello to somebody and get no response unless I raised my voice and stepped in front of them so they couldn’t pretend not to see me and repeat myself. Then I get a reply. It’s not like you could walk in and out of a room and nobody notices you, it’s just that they feel uncomfortable acknowledging that they notice you.
…dude, really?
Possible, but highly unlikely. It’d be like taking massive amounts of steroids and then suddenly stopping…if you’re lucky your body will get back to making the same amount you used to make before, but not likely to make more
How long of a conversation can you realistically have in class? One opener that I’ve used but is actually TOO good is the pick up artist opinion opener.
I’ll actually open with "Hey got a question I need a girls opinion on…what do you think of guys that study books and stuff about how to meet and talk to women? Smart for trying to learn? or Lonely losers?
Man once this gets brought up women get seriously into the subject! Which is good but also bad because you don’t want to stay on the opener too long, you want to be able to shift the convo so she remembers you as the guy she talked about EVERYTHING with.
Seriously Instant Shine and Instant Openness both are very fun and likable, Shine makes people just feel good being around you and IO makes them feel inclined (not compelled) to make a lot of small talk and shit chat.
OK you got me there, most products are supposed to last 4-6 hours depending on weather and such, but I’ve been able to detect the cover scent on myself as long as 10 hours later. I still get women giving me hard looks but in addition to the mones I just happen to be a damn sexy bastard…so I don’t know.
Most mones wash off reasonably well with regular soap and hot water. None is sticky and can last for a while. From what I understand Witch Hazel is good at breaking down mones. Probably a good idea if you use daily because if the stuff ain’t washing off you could get a buildup. (IE 2.5mcg of none today might only diffuse down to .5 which would make tomorrows spray 3 mcg…then 4 etc.
Ummm what’s the actual question here
I’ve gotten that. It’s a good idea if you try to capitalize on the signal the mones are sending and actually change a couple of things up, not just looks but behavior and personality. With mones they’re not mind control, they’re message that tell people things about you…when you change that strangers react almost immediately but people that know you will get a sense of “hmmm there’s something different about you.”
Pits, crotch, piss…and you put it all on your skin…coooties!!!
NO!!! the pits have a lot of bacteria that will covert your mones to pure stink. Your whole body actually does but the pits and other area’s are the worst…why do you think it smells the worst? Besides which unless your totally shirtless or wearing of of those spaghetti strap tank tops that gay guys and guido’s from Jersy Shore would wear your pits are too covered to release your mones very far if at all.
Wear what you want, a 300 pound man can walk the beach wearing a speedo and if he walks like he’s comfortable in his own skin nobody should think a thing about it.
A question came up in class so the subject was unavoidable and you were honest to your convictions. Whether anyone agree’s with them or not you need to think for yourself and not be afraid to express your opinions. You don’t need to force it on anyone since likewise you should respect their right to disagree. But never be self conscious about speaking your mind simply because the herd disagree’s
Man again with the TuTH. when we say older women respond better to TuTH than younger girls, it doesn’t mean that a 17 year old is an older woman…at best you’re looking at early to mid 20’s for a single spray. Now I realize you’re talking about buffering with some respect and socials but the thing everyone’s been saying is that there haven’t been many…if any studies on how this stuff works on teenagers. And as everyone has said you’re already producing a lot of None.
A lot of times people that feel like this (not saying it’s you) tend to resent people talking a lot because they want to be the ones doing all the talking.
Try this and see if it makes you feel better about it. When you do manage to get your turn to talk, talk low and slow and use as few words as possible to express your point. Lean back while you talk, ask questions and give approval to what other people say. Then suddenly their nervous million mile an hour tirades become amusing because you realize they’re approval seeking and it’s YOU they want approval from. Perspective changes everything.
First off, I’ve been with women in their mid 40’s that have more time and money to spend getting facials and working out with trainers than anyone and they look better than most HS cheerleaders.
That said yeah a woman in her early 20’s would be a bit more receptive to None than a teenage girl but seriously bro, women don’t usually start hunting for younger men until their early to mid 30’s and beyond. Most women prefer a man at LEAST her age, MAYBE a year or two younger but they tend to like men a couple of years older. So no, a 15 year old wearing two sprays of TuTH is not going to wow his buddies by pulling women that are old enough to live on their own and drive to a bar after work when he’s living at home and is lucky if he even has a license or work permit. Not trying to be mean, just realistic about what women are going to hold as deal breakers.
No a None od is a massive signal that says “I’m so jacked on testosterone that I’m possibly seconds away from killing somebody and butt fucking the corpse!” Which would understandably make people a little standoffish around you.
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I am in my mid-40s. A while ago. I am old enough to be the father of what you call older women of the 21-24 age range.
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Instant Gentleman does not have any none in it as I recall.
Generally you dont OD on arone as easy as something like Anone. All pheromones have a threshold though. OD just means opposite of desired effect.
No you dont become invisible. If you did Androtics would be mega rich just selling to our troops LOL People just dont treat any different then normal. They dont notice you.
They spray the wrap with Ishine so its neroli you smell
No
Just say hello and talk about something pertaining to your class to build up a rapport then slowly move toward more personal subjects like likes and dislikes and such.
IO and Ishine
No the scent package can dissipate before all the mones do or vice versa depending climate and such. You also become accustomed to the scent and dont notice it even though those around you do.
Swimming will wash the pheromones off pretty easy. Neroli is a EO so that you still will smell sometimes unless you use soap and water.
HUH ?
They wont consciously suspect pheromones but they will feel a new vibe coming from you and just assume its natural.
You release them where you sweat and in bodily fluids. Sweat, Urine saliva
Dark moist places like the pits and groin have to much natural bacteria that converts your pheromones and turns them stinky so no its not the best place to use them.
LOL Well I would have to take a look at you because the visual you just gave me with your description wasn’t pretty LOL
Subject matter aside. Sharing your opinion doesn’t make you a asshole as long as your open to others opinions as well. Will some people not like you because of your opinions ? Yes but thats their problem not yours. You gotta stay true to yourself while being open to learning and discovering new things and different views.
No instant jerk effect is more of a womanizer effect at least with the old formula.
Well obviously I would not wear that LOL. I would skip the TUTH you make enough natural anone already.
Well I am extremely talkative at times but the key is knowing it and giving others a chance to express themselves as well. I find people who dont allow you to express yourself annoying though. Generally if I like them and want to talk to them again I just tell them because sometimes they dont realize they are doing it. If I dont really care to talk to the person again I just avoid doing so.
I will ignore the 30 40 ewww because I think the same thing about 21 to 24 LOL. No you dont need more anone. Girls in their 20’s dont date down usually. Remember pheromones wont change a persons tastes or preferences.
Umm your misunderstanding pheromones quite a bit here. Did you just see Oceans 13 or something ? Mones dont do that.
Yes they will remember you said it, Yes it will hurt their feelings.
OD Opposite of desired. Ghosting just means they treat you the same as usual or they dont pay attention cause they are not interested. It doesn’t mean you dont see the person or forget interaction with them.
Yes they communicate something about you to animals but they wont make them sexually attracted to you or anything. Your another species.
You mean its quiet ? Having a firm confident voice is more attractive. It doesn’t have to be extremely deep. I dont know how old you are but your voice wont finish changing till your around 18 or 19 years old. Actually it can still change as you age as well but not as drastically as we notice in puberty.
NO LOL Remember we all emit pheromone naturally and we dont cancel each others signals out.
It opens people up in general and this is where congruence comes in. You still have to put in a effort when you use mones.
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You really have to experiment because we are all different in personality and comfort levels and what works for one person may not work for you.
Rad can better address this one but I think you need more study in PUA. Ask him for good resources to study up on.
Try IH and make sure you have something deep to say. Deep thoughts lead to deep convos.
His products are ok not the best on the market. No they wont cancel it other out.
You can use to many different mixes and molecules and just be sending to many signals which would make people uneasy annoyed and want to ignore you. Its sort of like the question you asked about over talkative people. Its to much on the senses so it gives you a headache and you dont want to talk to them. To many pheromones is the same thing. To much stimulation
Tisha
Well I used to be the moderator here in the forum for years then my husband got laid off and I had to pick up more hours at work so I stepped down. The question was asked before a lot. Jasmin and Steve had mentioned it a few times. However after years of using the products I pretty much recognize it from scent. Ishine is really a awesome product.
Talking about school is just for your opening and to create rapport and comfort. Once you do that its easier to move into talking about things and leading the convo. So you could talk about lets say video games then move onto your favorite links on youtube then favorite movies then ask her to the movies. See your leading the convo in a direction to reach a goal. This way you dont have to just walk up like a dork and ask her out. You establish comfort, confidence, rapport and maybe tease (neg) her a little then move in for the kill. LOL
Who told you that about negging ? Why would you not use it in your age group. Kids invented negging if you think about it and they are experts at it.
Pulling hair in the playground, Telling a girl she has cooties. Shooting spitballs in her hair. As you get older into your teen years you just learn to express it verbally instead of physically. The most important part is learn how to neg correctly. A lot of guys screw it up because they think its supposed to be a insult when its in fact a compliment that can be construed as a insult to put a person off balance and give you the upper edge.
EO means Essential Oils
Repeated glancing for no apparent reason is usually a cue girls give when they are interested in a guy. So its a hit. If you are doing something stupid or bizarre at the time it doesn’t count because people cant help but look when your drawing that kind of attention.
I would have to say yes. In your case they would think you matured more over the summer. This happens at all ages though and you dont have to have a separation period between seeing the person. For instance when I first started using copulins my husband didnt respond right away. People close to us usually dont until repeated exposure. Theory is that they need more time to get past there preconceived notions about you and process the new signal. Anyway about a week after wearing copulins everyday he started to look at me funny. Then he started to ask questions like is that a new shirt or did you get your hair done. He was trying to place what was different. After that he just responded to the signal naturally.
Yes its also why they smell your crouch. LOL
The old one had copulins in it. Copulins are the vaginal fluids (synthetic of course) of young fertile females in ovulation. The reason they were in there is because women can pick up on them subconsciously and it gives the impression you have been with a girl so your in demand. I forget the term the guys use for it. They no longer sell copulins here so its not in the newer formula. The new one is mostly anone and way to much for someone your age.
You produce plenty your nearing the end of puberty. Unless you have been diagnosed by a doctor that you have a condition that would cause low testosterone which is rare at your age. It has nothing to do with cuteness. If you think your not masculine enough then eat right and hit the weight room and build more muscle mass. There is a reason your mom told you to each your proteins and veggies LOL
Muscle mass and proper diet can increase your testosterone in turn increasing your masculine mone output.
I understand that which is why I said just tell them.
No a cougar is a 40 year old who dates men in there 20’s and 30’s. A craddlerobber is a guy who dates women much younger then them.
I am not saying its impossible for a girl to date down. In there twenties they generally just dont date men under around 19. Girls tend to care about what there friends think still in there low twenties. There is a big difference in a 22 year old dating a 17 year old and a 30 year old dating a 25 year old.
As people get older in there late 20’s 30 and 40’s age matter less.
Oh ok, they had a part in that movie with pheromones in it that put this lady into some axe like trance LOL Anywhoo… No its not a block its more over stimulation like I explained above.
Yes animals communicate more pheromonally and they can get good vibes from things like anol or TAA. They can also get negative vibes as well from anone and other molecules. We even emit a fear or alert pheromone that they can pick up on which is why they tell you animals can smell fear.
Still no
Clear confident, dont mumble.
Everyone has a natural signature yes. We are born being able to determine where light comes from, where sound is coming from, where touch is coming from and where scent is coming from. Its part of the subconscious and how the senses work. So even if everyone is emitting mones or wearing them the subconscious can still pinpoint the origin.
Only if you sit there and let him.
No absolutely not. People have a big misconception on what it means to be a alpha male. Actually the true alpha is very deep, he has to be to be able to lead.
Sort of people have different words for it. Vibes, auras, chemistry, signals. Basically pheromones are just another form of communication between living organisms. Animals and plants rely on them to communicate. Humans communicate with them as well. Babies bond with there parents using pheromones. We reveal information about ourselves to others using pheromones. We just rely on other forms of communication more.
Ive been called worse LOL Ask away I love questions. A curious mind is a sign of great intelligence ![]()
Tisha
Here is a great discussion we had some time ago about what is or is not “alpha”:
Read the whole thread - it is well worth the time.
Do I LOL Sorry cant help it. I have been moderating forums for years and years so its just a hard habit to break.
They do have better noses then us. I guess they just want to be sure or something. Plus people are a lot more hygienic now a days. We use all sorts of things to mask our natural body odor.
From a girl LOL just kidding. Love scent sells then as essence of women but be prepared because they really really do not smell good in the bottle or on the skin sometimes. You have to learn to use them correctly. Yes we call them cops for short.
I would say yes although I have not seen any studies on this subject. Your health can not be fixed with synthetic pheromones though at least not in the form you see them here. But if you had cancer or some other disease I believe that the body gives off a odor that indicates it. There are a lot of different factors that help in our natural pheromone products.
Health and Fitness, Diet, race, age and it is suspected maybe even blood type.
Well think of it this way. If you always stay in your comfort zone you never grow learn or experience anything new. When you were a baby walking was out of your comfort zone but look how good you are at it now. Always push just a little past your own comfort zone just a little bit.
Yes you can buffer A314 but being able to buffer doesn’t mean its Beta. Some pheromones signal alpha and some Beta personalities and some are just neutral. They signal some other emotion. IH creates a deep connected comfortable trust sort of vibe. Used with other mones it can increase intimacy or make a harsher molecule less intimidating.
Yes they do, some even have similar chemistry to human pheromones. You didnt pay attention in Biology did you LOL. This is not a study but it covers the gist of it. JV Kohl posted some studies in the abstract area of the forum I believe.
Affairs of the Lips: Why We Kiss: Scientific American
LOL Thank you but no I am not. I just love learning new things and have had a lot more time to learn them then you so I know alot. You can say I’m always pushing past my knowledge comfort zone. ![]()
I know how most kids feel about school. You have to learn what they want you to learn and a lot of it seems like useless information. Dont get me wrong reading writing and arithmetic are important but unless your headed toward a certain profession some classes that are required now a days really are not at all helpful to kids. Learning has become more about competing with other schools and countries for the highest Cap scores at least in those first 12 years. This can turn kids off to learning really. Learning should be a life long process and the great thing about life after school is you get to choose what it is you want to learn. There is a whole huge world of exciting information out there. Never stop asking questions or looking for the answers.
Tisha
Yes hygiene affects pheromone communication. Its probably why it one of the senses we pay less attention to.
Did you know that back in the less hygienic days…
When Napoleon of France was about to return from battle, he would send a message to Josephine. “Am returning in three days. Don’t wash.”
Cleopatra used her own copulins as perfume.
Before the dawn of bath and hygiene products, body odor was consciously part of attraction. Now its something that comes more from the subconscious.
Good Goddess no LOL They are made from acids. Just add a drop or two into a 5 ml bottle of scent cover. Men dont need a lot.
Well thank you. Being a mail carrier is not all bad LOL. Its not who I am though its what I do. Life happens and you do what you gotta do. I am also a certified life coach. I took sociology in college but got married and had kids so I didnt finish. I got my certification years later as a coach though and I pick up work in that field when I can. That’s actually what I love to do. Its not even like working. My advice to you. Pick a profession you love, one that you would do for free and make that your career and you will never feel like you work a day in your life.
I see you added to your question list…
Shouldn’t be long its just anol and bnol. You can use IO and IH at the same time for a similar effect.
What do you mean ? How are they made or how do we process them ?
Because they can’t talk ROFL Sorry corny joke. Ok some plants have alarm pheromones. They release them when harmful bugs or animals are feeding on them so the other plants produce a bitter tannin and are less likely to be attacked.
Plant pheromone attract pollinating insects so they can procreate.
Its a form of communication for them just like us.
No Dr Amend did not discover pheromones LOL He discovered he could make money from pheromones ![]()
Jean-Henri Fabre 1870 He was the first to scientifically test the chemical signaling in moths.
Its a long story though in which you can read here…
I dont think there is one person you could name who discovered human pheromones. Scientists from all over test them. They became popular as a human attraction product in the late 60’s early 70’s.
Now remember I mentioned Cleopatra using her own copulins as perfume. People knew there was a connection between scent and attraction for thousands of years they just didnt know why or anything scientific about it. Chemistry was around before anyone defined what chemistry was.
No it is a social networking site and if she accepts your friend request she doesn’t think its creepy.
Gay men are attracted to male signatures. Gay women are attracted to women’s signatures. Bi people are attracted to both. Most gay mixes use smalls amounts of the opposite genders to feminize or increase masculinity a little in the mix though.
Well there is 200 sprays in a bottle. So about 40 weeks
They could because you would build more confidence.
No it wont. IO has 3 pheromones CTTM is a 50/50 mix of anol and bnol. I find CTTM to be more chatty but IO is more attractive in my opinion.
You will have to ask a caveman that. I am sure they had visual preferences but were more instinct driven then we are now. They probably looked for strong breeders.
No because beauty is not instinctual. Sex and breeding is instinctual. Pheromones are instinctual. Beauty is determined by our preferences. So even if your giving the most awesomely hot breeder signal, as advanced humans we are more left brained. There is no pheromone that over shadows conscious thought ( the left brain). Pheromones can only influence.
No
Not consciously. BL is another way we communicate without consciously thinking about it although its more prominent consciously then pheromones would be. It signals information about you and your personality.
Yes but it wont be the same as theirs because it had 3 human pheromones one in which was not disclosed. They have to protect there formulas, It is a business. There is to much anone in IJ for you.
That’s up to Jasmin and the crew. They can but its expensive and time consuming and they like the fast acting mixes for testing. You can make your own though.
Like I said you can if you want. Remember it lasts longer but hits are not as prominent or strong.
Not for many many years.
They could still be present because clothe holds onto the molecules more slowing diffusion. I find cloths end up smelling funky though and need to be washed after mones get on them.
Tisha