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Off pheromones day 13
What a stupid idea. Oddly enough things are going well, but I feel like being lazy. I don’t want to remember to keep my back straight, keep my body open, look everyone in the eyes at all times. It’s too much work. sigh!!!
So I think I’m either rebounding pretty well or hanging out with you guys and whatever body language I have picked up while wearing mones is pretty awesome. Well I do think my natural mones are up a notch. Let me explain why.
The other night, I think it was Tuesday I came down with a fever. My kids finally got me sick after a week of me fighting them off. They won. I basically sweat through it all night. I sweated through pajamas and the sheets. My wife said they reeked when she finally got up. I didn’t have time to take a shower that morning because I had early appointments. Since I’m not wearing mones I went for some positive music instead. So though I was feeling like crap and had dried snot in my nose I was in a good mood. I walked into work and this petite little blond from the company gym is there handing out fliers. Saying something about not losing weight over the Holidays. So I look her in the eyes and let her know that I can’t use her gym anyway because I’m not an employee. She gives me some flirtatious looks. I say something else that makes her laugh and I move on. She drops some stuff on the floor as I walk by I look back as I’m turning a corner and she is still bent over with her butt my way smiling back at me.
I’m thinking the sweating all night must have doused me in A1 and other pheromones, because I sure didn’t look all that great that morning. Could have been the attitude though.
Wednesday evening I had to resolve some issues for another petite chick this one was not a natural blond. I had run into her Tuesday evening also. Wednesday she was smiling. Very attentive. Playing with hair. Some light flirting. I had to work on a computer in her area and she decided to sit near me the whole time making some excuse about making sure I knew what I was doing. So I gave her a hard time for a while. Some kino initiated from her here and there. Would have been good hits even if I had mones on.
So in my off time I have been studying and researching mones more and more.
I stated in a previous post that I think P75 is norepinephrine and that P79 is is epinephrine. My initial thoughts from testing p75 made me feel that it was related to adrenaline in some way. I had tested P79 and am sure it is adrenaline (epinephrine). After reading a post from Jasmin about their chemical structures being very close I am even more sure. Plus Mharris states P75 is found in brow sweat of attractive men. Adrenaline (epinephrine) and noradrenaline are found in significant doses of male animals during play fights for “status” and again during mating seasons along with testosterone.
I have been wondering about the relationship between p79 and P83. The two appear to work in synergy well. So I did some research and learned the effects of dopamine and it’s relation to adrenaline. Adrenaline essentially comes from noradrenaline which comes from dopamine. BTW the time delay or change in hits with p75 could be explained if it was breaking down into p79 after a few hours. Where was I? Oh yes, so dopamine does a few interesting things in the body but some of the most interesting are increase of sexual arousal, rewards, and inhibition of prolactin creation. Prolactin inhibits sex. So dopamine is a disinhibitor of sex. So I believe that P83 is dopamine. If I am correct then prolonged exposure of p83 on a target would illicit uncontrollable arousal. Much like I have experienced in my use.
P75 as noradrenaline and p83 as dopamine would also explain the NT crashes. Of course I am writing this all down so that I don’t forget but also because I think by using p83, p79, p75, and maybe some -enone in the correct ratios you should be able to create very intense arousal.
CMON DUDE!!
I planned to take off, but now I have to test these theories out.
Makes me wonder more about how these particular putatives are honed in on and derived. Has anyone here experienced anything favorable from the
P79 + P83 combo without doing a 1:1 ratio? Considering epi and norepi are probably the 2 most used things in the hospital from what I’ve seen in the pharmacy the idea of spraying it on my skin seems kinda scary.
Ahhhhh!!!
30 days of mone free are over. Actually it was worth it. I finished The Way of the Superior Man. Started applying the knowledge that I picked up immediately. I think this really has something to do with the increase in IOI’s that I have been receiving. The last week without mones was getting tough, and then I started opening myself up and basically loving everyone. That’s when it started to feel like I was actually wearing mones. The last 2 days were tough though knowing that it was almost through. I started having trouble holding eye contact and had to fight my way through it. I came back on Thursday with one drop of A314. Wow!!! A314 is probably the most effective subconscious self effect mix there is. Forget the IOI’s. I can’t get over how grounded and aware I am again.
Thursday night date night. (Dinner and Salsa)
Application: 20mcg P75, 2.5 mcg androstenone, 20mcg p83, 10mcg P79, 1x IS/A. From a togo bottle at 6pm first half and then second half at 9:00pm.
Self effects: I felt huge. I mean I took up so much space I thought the walls would move to give me more room. My walk was very determined. I was on fire. Very playful though. Got a dry mouth within first few minutes.
I had applied 1x A314 and 3x shine at 7:00am and took a good shower at 5:30pm. After application I kissed my kids goodbye and talked to the babysitter(caucasian female 24) for a minute or 2. No bad reactions at all. Lots of smiles. I took my wife to Olive Garden. I was wearing one of my company’s black graphic polos, cream pants, a black leather jacket, and a graphic cheap black fedora with a bit of red. I looked pretty good.
As soon as we hit the car my wife would not stop talking. AFter a 15 minute drive I don’t think I actually got to talk once. I had slipped a togo of CTTM in pocket in case the mix needed it, but apparently it didn’t. IS/A? Anyway the Olive Garden was fun. The waitress was freindly and flirtatious. My wife didn’t mind and joked around with her. The waitress even divulged information about her family and children. After dinner I took my wife shopping. Got attention from the customers as soon as we came in the door. It took a bit for the employees to notice us, but once they did they were near us the entire time even though there were several other people in the store. 2 ladies in there late 40’s came in. I wasn’t sure what there relationship was. The shorter not so attractive one struck up a conversation with me while the tall slender attractive one shopped and glanced at me frequently. We left that store after a bit and when to another in the same strip. While my wife was in the dressing room the other 40 year old ladies came into the store. The one that was talking to me before said loudly to the slender lady that she was going over to talk to her “friend”, me. She talked to me for a bit, then the slender chick comes over looking for a coat. She tries one on and makes some comments about not being sure how it looked. The other chick starts asking my opinion. Saying “She looks good doesn’t she? You don’t want to say anything out loud because your wife my hear.” I thought it was interesting. I walked around the store a bit looking for other things and ended up by myself with the slender chick somehow. She started chatting me up about different things. Oddly enough although I felt playful I wasn’t really interested in having a convo so I left her. Bought my wife some clothes and headed to the salsa club.
We walked into salsa and 4 hot girls all in there 20’s walked in behind us. 3 caucasian and 1 mixed. I decided to do the lesson with my wife to warm up. The instructor has us swap partners every minute or 2. The next girl up was one of the 4. I don’t remember her name. She was tall and hot with dilated pupils. And the lights were turned up. She started talking. I smiled and said little. She said “I like your hat”,“you are tall”, “it’s nice to have tall guys to dance with”. The instructor told us the swap and another of the 4 is in my arms. She said, “I like your shirt”, “Do you come here often?”. Lot’s of smiling very comfortable with me. Then I got the 3rd one, btw the other two were still watching me while I was dancing with the 3rd one, and the 4th one was now watching me too. The 3rd one was all flushed. Pupils dilated like the other 2. She says “I like your smile” she can’t hold eye contact for long. She approves everything that I do. Pats me on my shoulder. Holds my hand even when the instructor is just talking. Then I get the 4th one the mixed girl. She’s beautiful. Practically embraces me. She can’t talk or tell me her name like the other 3. just smiling. So we do another swap and the instructor whom I’ve known for years sends this absolutely gorgeous 30 year old my way. She seems confused. At first her pupils are normal, then hers dilate at some point too. She doesn’t talk. We are connected. She enjoys the dance and is obviously not a beginner. I just smile at her. We have to swap again, but she doesn’t want to leave. The instructor has to move her to the next guy. I am completely in the moment. I grab the next girl and keep it going. This one is a black lady that is in her 40’s. She isn’t as comfortable, although I caught her watching me dance with my wife several times that night.
Finally the lesson ends and my wife comes straight over to me to dance with me. Other people are showing up now. I get a few compliments from some of the guys I know. I spend the rest of the time dancing with my wife. While ordering a drink at one point I got some great IOI’s from 3 ladies at the bar. All early 30’s or mid to late 20’s. The 4 hot girls kept an eye on me the whole night watching wherever I walked. Lots of open invitations with there looks.
OK so this is kind of what I expected from this mix and going out with my wife. I feel like I could have upped the -none. Maybe the IS/A was buffering it. I also think I should have applied everything at once. I’m curious of how this would have worked if I were single. I know I would have gotten several phone numbers. I’m going to drop the IS/A and try it again sometime soon. I do believe the p83 needs to go to about 30-40 mcg’s. I’m really thrilled with the 20mcg’s of p75. Everything was very natural.
Oh wow, it’s been that long already?
Don’t want to sound like a punk, but I doubt AD will sell anything close to epi, norepi or dopa. Dopamine or its analogue bromocriptine is most often used for parkinson’s and it can cause serious side effects. Epi is strictly relased from adrenal medulla to act on vessels to vasoconstrict. I doubt AD would sell hormones, and not pheromones. Plus, people can serious coronary vasospasm like cocaine. Norepi is the main adrenaline, and at high levels, you wil see pheochromocytoma like reactions. Moreover, it is more like hormone or nueromuscular junction signalling molecule, not pheromone. Again, unless AD wants to be liable for something, I doubt they would sell something that acts like hormone. I know, not everything is absorbed into the blood stream, but still…
Just my two cents
Don’t want to sound like a punk, but I doubt AD will sell anything close to epi, norepi or dopa. Dopamine or its analogue bromocriptine is most often used for parkinson’s and it can cause serious side effects. Epi is strictly relased from adrenal medulla to act on vessels to vasoconstrict. I doubt AD would sell any hormones or act like it, and not pheromones. Plus, people can getserious coronary vasospasm like cocaine at high concentration. Norepi is the main adrenaline, and at high levels, you wil see pheochromocytoma like reactions. Moreover, it is more of hormone, mostly a nueromuscular junction signalling molecule, not pheromone. Again, unless AD wants to be liable for something, I doubt they would sell something that acts like hormone.
AD is not like Lovescents, that sell hormones like oxytocin. This is why Jvkohl is not happy with LS.
I know, not everything is absorbed into the blood stream, but still…
Just my two cents
P.S.
I know some people over at FDA. If I tell them AD is selling something like Epi… boom… INVESTIGATION … and all kinds of weird things will come out
Dude what are you talking about? You are the same person who said that AD was lying about P75 being androstanone.
OK so what are you saying that AD wouldn’t use a hormone as a pheromone? Why not? I posted earlier in my journal that our skin contains hormone receptors. Why do you think that is? Aren’t pheromones a derivative of hormones? Wouldn’t it make sense for a research company that researches pheromones to look into potential pheromones? Wouldn’t you start at the source? Hormones in the body are released once they have been used in sweat, urine, and tears.
Have you tested P75 and P79? Some of the self effects I have noticed are dry mouth, increased heart beat, and increased awareness.
Norepi and Epi are found in higher levels in animals during mating season. So they could be putatives. If I were Androtics I would test them. Also both p79 and p75 are recommended in lower doses. There are a lot of Putatives. I can’t imagine that they are all derivatives of testosterone and estrogen.
Also the FDA doesn’t regulate pheromones. They don’t work. Plus we don’t know what we are testing because they are labeled with P numbers. Even Androtics doesn’t know what is what.
Well the original post that I saw from MHarris about P75 and P76 is that they have the potential to cause OD like Androstenone and they should be used in low doses. They found P75 and P76 in brow sweat of men that were considered to be attractive. So I guess they do a lot of sweat analysis. 
Yup you are 100% correct.
BROW SWEAT? Lol didn’t know that, interesting. Thanks for the info! Reps!
Saturday: Retried my Salsa mix without the IS/A. Of course I didn’t actually go anywhere that would have been effective. And I had my 2 year old daughter and 1 year old son with me so this really wasn’t a valid test. We went Starbucks, the library, and a grocery store. At Starbucks a young blonde witih a tightly pulled back pony tail tried her best to run her fingers through her hair several times while she was waiting for my coffee to be ground. I didn’t see her doing that when I first got there, so I’m counting it as a hit. It was actually kind of funny because she kept trying to put an imaginary hair back in place. AT the library I didn’t really notice any hits because I was too busy trying to keep up with my children and I had forgotten I was wearing mones. At the grocery store I kind of saw some hits and IOI’s but I was in a hurry and was only buying eggs. One of the cashier/baggers, a beautiful Colombian girl, that regularly talks to me made it a point to stop at my van as I was putting the children in to talk to me about how she was doing in school. She’s in college. She kind of lingered a bit. My mind was somewhere else so I didn’t do a great job interacting. I did notice that I was very patient that day, but like I said I forgot I was wearing mones and didn’t pay attention to the subtle details.
Monday:
Initial application: 7:30 am 5mcg -none, 10mcg p75, 10mcg p79, 40 mcg p83. I didn’t mix it this time, just sprayed them on. -none to the next everything else on my head. I decided to change the ratio’s on p75 and p79 based on my reports from a month ago. I upped the p83 also based on past experience. This was only my 3rd time wearing -none but I figured I would go for it, because the mix didn’t seem to be having any strong sexual effects.
Self effects: Increased sound sensitivity. Noticed many details. Was annoyed about the disorginization of my desk. (Never bothers me). I was pissed at my wife that morning before leaving the house. After spraying on the mix, the anger disappeared. The issue didn’t bother me anymore. Felt really comfortable all day. Walked quite a bit faster.
Effects on others: Unfotrunately most of my day was around men. That being said, this was very effective on my male coworkers, and every other male I came around. No submission here. Just lots of playful joking in the group. Easy conversation. Low stress. Still very focused and able to get work done very easily. No real competition with each other, but still a bit of a drive to complete tasks. Overall a great deal of respect whenever I asked a question or said something.
I went out to grab a few stocking stuffers for my wife. We are done with all of the real shopping. Lots of friendliness and helpfulness from retail employees. A little more out of their way for me versus other customers, but that could have been the smile plastered to my face. I was in a great mood, even singing a bit. Got looks from women, but no one got within 3 feet of me. Got smiles, lots of them. I didn’t feel like I was being ghosted. In fact I felt like I was being included. If I did end up in a conversation, I couldn’t get away from it. But no one would stand too close to me.
At around 5:00pm I got home. Kids had no bad reactions. They respond to P79 the same way everytime. They climb the walls. My wife says she was in a bad mood because the day had been rough with the children, however I didn’t notice any of that. She seemed to be in a great mood. I think I noticed some dilated pupils, but may have been the lighting although I am used to checking and don’t normally see her pupils that big. She remained close to me most of the night after we put the kids down.
At 8:00pm my sister-in-law came over. I gave her a hug. She was all bright eyed. You could tell that the mones were affecting her. She was in a friendly flirtatious mood. Lots of hair play. I took a shower and went to bed at around 10:30pm. I dont’ know when my wife joined me, but she was all cuddled up next to me when I woke up. (not normal). When I came out of the bathroom after getting ready this morning she was completely on my side of the bed using my pillows. That never happens.
You glowing yet?
Funny guy. That’s only 65mcg’s of mones. Do you really want to compare?
although I have been tempted to take a pherobath with all of the new mones that I have.
I’ve been trying to tone down.
two sprays of my 37.5mcg P96 gets me to 75mcg alone lmao.
Lately my mixes have been very simple, a lot of it lately that I’ve liked was A314 Rev 26 and P96. Pretty good stuff right there. Last night I only did IG x2 and had some pretty good results.
Hey, my dancing journal is in A314 thread now! Go check it out, lol
p96 is great!
Yea, have you read Renny’s thread on p75 vs p76?
It is a dandy