Has anyone here used Scent of Eros for Women in the SCENTED version? If so, what were your results? Thanks.
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Bella
Thanks for the link, Bella. How does SOE/w compare with Lust After Me, in regard to effects, in your experience?
LAM and SOE are as different as day and night.
LAM is high amounts of copulins with nols.
SOE is a mix of a few mones, I know anol is in there.
LAM is designed for attraction and of course to bring on a stronger sexual response.
SOE is more friendly happy comfortable vibe.
Both are great, it just depends on the reaction your looking for to know which to wear.
Tish
Yes, I know what pheromones are found in each product, and what they are supposed to convey, but I’m asking for anecdotal reports of these products. Scent of Eros is supposed to present the copulin profile of a young fertile woman. That would necessarily convey a degree of sexuality, not just platonic friendliness. I wonder if Scent of Eros actually produces in that respect. Also, while Lust After Me certainly has much more copulin content, it may be a different synthetic copulin “recipe”, and so it may perform differently. As well, I often wonder if “more is actually less” in regard to copulin; that is, I wonder if there is a sensory threshhold or range in men, who may respond sexually to a levelof copulins detected, but not to a higher (or lesser) amounts of copulins. In other words, perhaps the amount of copulins needs to be within a certain measurement, not too much, not too little, in order to communicate fertility, receptivity and sexual attractiveness…that is what natural copulins do, and my best guess is that within the population of young, fertile females, there is a general range of natural copulin content in vaginal secretions, wherein some females are on the lower end of that range, and some are on the higher end, but all are nevertheless in the range. Perhaps we need to figure out what that range is, in order to better duplicate it with synthetic copulin usage. Perhaps there is such a thing as wearing too much in regard to copulins—and not just in terms of the copulins being odiferous but rather in regard to their more subliminal pheromonal impact on men, as well as putting out too little copulins (as does a menopausal woman, or someone using certain types of birthcontrol pills). Does that make sense? So in essence I’m asking for personal reports to try to figure all of this out. I know Essence of Woman is another popular copulin product, so perhaps I should extend my questions to include EoW.
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Well I am sure it will differ with some people but for me.
Scent of Eros is just platonic for me, I actually attract more women then men useing it. I Get more friendly vibes from others. I have never gotten any sexual vibes from wearing it. Keep in mind my age because this may be why some people do and some dont get sexual hits from it.
Lust After Me Is more sexual in nature for me when I use it. Men will attract more then women. My husband will respond to it more strongly. The attention is less friendly and more seductive. Not that they are being unfriendly but they will give more sexual cues like staring at certain body parts, flirting more, posturing, ect
You may be onto something there with this therory. Just like Androstenone works in different levels on different men. Allthough with cops I have not seen any reported OD effect like with anone I am sure each of us has a optimal dosage that is our sweet spot.
Tisha
Great post reps, this is something to explore further.
I’m not so sure it would be a copulin OD, per se, in that it probably wouldn’t produce negative effects (aside from perhaps making the wearer of too many copulins smell distasteful to others and thus repel them). But overloading copulins may simply not work to attract males. I think instead it is a question of efficacy, that is, what amount (or range of amounts) of copulins will convey fertility and therefore be a sexual attractant. My suspicion is that wearing too many copulins may convey hormonal imbalance, which would be a deterrent to males, not an encouragement. Nature draws prospective mates to healthy fertile females, those who give sensory output that they are able to reproduce. I wonder if too many copulins might impart a sense of too much estrogen, which can indeed interfere with female fertility and therefore may actually deter (pheromonally) available males from sexually approaching that female. Natural hormones exist in a particular relationship and ratio to other natural hormones, in a fertile healthy woman. The ratios have some leeway, but nevertheless there are lower and upper boundaries to those healthy levels. I think it’s worth exploring how we can replicate that balance of natural hormones when we use synthetic copulins, rather than haphhazardly splashing on the most potent copulin blends we can find. I think the science of pheromones is more complicated than we may think.
I’ve used SoE/w in sexual situations and its copulin content does make a nice contribution there, but it’s present at a subtle enough level and/or it’s covered so well by the fruity scent that I still wear it out anywhere - it’s not an overtly sexual product like LAM or EoW.
I guess it’s a little like the female equivalent of Ammo - it’s a nice fresh fragrance with significant pheromone content, but not hit-you-over-the-head sexual, more all-purpose. Seems to me it’s primarily alpha androstenol and copulins, if I recall correctly.
I have LAM but don’t use it much. The unpleasantness of the ylang overpowers any benefits from the copulins, for me. The current version of EoW smells relatively good compared to how it used to be, is easy to use and I would recommend it over LAM, unless you get LAM with a different scent package.
I think again it depends on the women and there situation. Just like with Androstenone it depends on the guy.
If they were or are on the pill which is said to hinder copulin production.
There age.
There natural ability to produce copulins
I know when I started out with them I couldnt get them to work no matter what brand I wore. It was because I wasnt using enough. Small amounts really were just to subtle in my opinion.
Took the advice of dolly and ail and overloaded and that did it. Lets take EOW for example… I can wear up to 10 drops and get fantastic results. If I wear 15 drops I still get fantastic results but not better then the 10 drops. So I think when you reach your sweetspot it wont turn men away but just wont contribute anything more unless the nasty smell becomes a issue. I will try 20 drops in the right enviroment and see what happens in the name of science LOL
Keep in mind I am 42, and have been on the pill since I was 18 except when I had kids. So I may need more then the average women.
Tisha
Or guys might merely think, “this girl really needs a shower.” Oft the same happens when guys wear too much androstenone.
True Gegogi, and I did mention that point…still, pheromone usage involves not necessarily perceptible scent, but the effects of the imperceptible molecules on our minds and behavior. i.e. what we are not aware that we are smelling. (This is assuming we can group copulins under the catagory of pheromones; some researchers will argue that copulins are not pheromones by strict definition because their perceptible scent does matter).
It is definitely true that to synthetically raise one’s copulin load to fall within a range of “normal” copulin output for a fertile, young female, different women will need more or less synthetic copulins…for example, a menopausal women would need more synthetic copulins to boost her natural levels versus the amount a thirty year old woman would require to fall within the normal natural range. But I wonder if overboosting one’s copulins to extend too far beyond the natural normal range would be adverse to attracting mates. I think perhaps it may be adverse, given that too much copulin load may singal too much estrogen and thus lack of fertility. After all, the point of a normal copulin level is to signal sexual availability in a fertile female. The natural drive is to reproduce, and so pheromones speak to the instinct to find fertile, receptive, healthy mates.
I could very well be totally off on this hypothesis…I’m just thinking aloud! ![]()
As most of us have discovered through trial and error…everyones sweet spot is different. You must tailor your pheromones to yourself and the situation, no matter what you choose to wear.
Yes, the way the smell is percieved by others is not necessarily how you smell/percieve yourself. When I wear cops I think I stink…never been told by anyone, while wearing them, “You stink!”. Never.
My range for reactions wearing copulins is wide…depending on the situation and people involved. Anywhere from low cop content Scent of Eros For Women and Instant Sexiness/A and B to 12 drops EoW. I get positive reactions across the board…as usual it depends on the variables…always does and always will. That’s the bottom line.
So I guess your question really is…What’s the ‘normal’, if there is such a thing, level of copulin output of a young fertile female and how can I duplicate it? I’ll venture to say that you’ll be hard pressed to get a definitive answer from even the ‘experts’. Good luck with that.
…and happy testing!
Oh and if you read the exchange some of us had with jvkohl, creator of Scent of Eros, even he could not define how much of it we should wear.
Bella
If you think the ylang-scented LAM is unpleasant, try it unscented. Yowza. The smell of that stuff was virtually unbearable, even after dry down.
I got it in coconut, however, and that one is much much better, in my opinion. After dry down there is no sharp chemical smell, like with the unscented, and the coconut fragrance mixes extremely well with Pink Sugar. I’ve even worn it alone with no difficulty.
Thanks Bella…but actually no, my question isn’t about how much copulin Ipersonally should wear…I was really just hypothesizing about how to wear copulins in general, for all women…and I wholeheartedly agree that the threshold is indeed different for every particualr woman. I also agree and failed to consider that copulin dosage might be tailored to each situation, although that is not the case in nature. The copulin level of a twenty year old remains constant, notwithstanding the wanes and peaks of copulins at given points in her menstrual cycle, whether she is in church, at the office, or on a date. More to consider, I suppose.
I suppose I was instead comparing the low copulin formulas with the stronger copulin formulas, and considering the posts I often see about people ordering Lust After Me in 20x concentrations, juxtaposed with an older post I recall reading by James Kohl. If I am not mistaken (and please pardon me and correct me if I am), when asked if the copulin content in Scent of Eros/women could be increased, James Kohl replied yes, but noted that then it would not be the profile of a young, fertile woman. In other words, I think James Kohl was implying that there is a normal range of copulins for a young, healthy woman..a range that can be exceeded if copulins are used in excess. ![]()
Hey, thanks for mentioning my diary, Bella!
I tend to wear only a moderate amount of copulins because I already get a good deal of sexual attention from my targets (not implying that other people don’t!). I think my natural cop output may be pretty high even tho I’ve been on contraception before.
When I’ve ODed on cops–meaning, wearing high-concentration industrial cops without enough dilution–the reaction from men wasn’t very useful. Blank staring, as in wave your hand in front of dude’s face and shout “Hello?”-type staring. And a few women did comment on a bad smell, but they didn’t seem to think it was coming from me.
I say, wear as much as you can stand scentwise, and see if you like the effects. If you don’t see enough of an effect, wear more with a heavier cover scent. When you hit your sweet spot, you will know it! ![]()
Alpha androstenol is also a really important pheromone for ladies, and I’d say that scented Scent of Eros for women is my fave alphanol product. The copulin content in there is pretty low. Alpha androstenol makes you seem younger, healthier, more attractive, and less threatening. So if you want guys to not just lust/drool, but also approach and be happy around you, I’d really recommend an alpha androstenol product.
All the best!
Kitten
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…but see…I count that as a positive reaction…lol…unless I’m lookin’ for action…which I’m not…'cept from Wolf, of course, and I never get a useless reaction from him…not while wearing cops anyways…![]()
Scent of Eros/W is unbeatable, Kit!
Bella
I think I know the post you are referring to here, and this was not the implication I garnered from what he said. The part (I think) you are referring to is “The difference would be that Scent of Eros for women would be less likely to smell like the young fertile female whose natural body odor I successfully attempted to mimic”. In other words, he’s talking about the actual, palpable scent of Scent of Eros for Women, not the intangible pheromone signature.
That’s at least how I read it.
I gotta agree with that I love scent of eros and it has its purpose in my phero line up its just not sexual for me.
I remember the post your referring to with James. He kept referring to the smell and how it dosnt smell like a young fertile women. The smell is really secondary to what the copulins do. Men dont walk around sniffing the air for hot young fertile women. They are not normally even aware of it unless they stick there heads down there. Especially these days with all the various products. I believe even though its not nessesarily labeled as a pheromone it does act as one and enters the brain just like the others. If it didnt then a man testestorone wouldnt increase. JMO
Tisha
Yah, J Kohl has his own fixed ideas about copulins. I love his product for what it is. I also think he doesn’t understand why we’d want to wear more copulins than he has in his product. But that’s a bit like saying women shouldn’t wear red lipstick because the ideal fertile young woman without makeup on has rose colored lips, not red. Everyone should be aiming at a perfect rose hue for lipstick, not fuchsia or heaven forbid, purple! Yet isn’t unnatural exaggeration key to sending courtship signals? I say seduction (not love) is infinitely and fascinatingly artificial.
Not true. We merely try really hard not to get caught.