Sceptical but open minded

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Hi,
I’ 24 years old male and very interested in the effects of pheromones. I have to say that I’m sceptical. While I understand that -mones can have an effect, I somehow doubt that it makes a difference to apply even more of them in addition to what your body already produces. Moreover, I somehow doubt the specific effects of certain mones, it sounds almost like alchemy, but I’m open to try it

Maybe you can help me selecting the right product? Something about myself:

I currently attend college, so I’m in an environment with lots of young, educated and intelligent people. I’m not the most skilled guy when it comes to social situations. I’m sometimes very afraid to talk to people. Strangers react negativly towards me, it’s almost like I have “negative charms”…I figure that this is due to my negative body language. I get told that I’m weird…

To speak of weird: It somehoiw troubles me that I CAN actually communicate well with some folks, if I’m in the right mood. Almost every bit of social anxiety dissapears and I’m cracking jokes and it seems like I’m “fun person” at these times…

But overall I have to admit that I still get comments that there is something “wrong” with me, something to be afraid of ..something they can’t put a finger on…I guess it’s some kind of “weirdo vibe” …I feel confident at one level and very insecure on other levels of my existence..maybe that’s the problem.

I’m underdeveloped. Some guys start drinking during their teenage years to build their confidence. I wihs I’d have done that. Now I’m looking for something to ease myself into a new, better, more confident frame …need more positive reactions to emotionally change the outlook on myself and the world as a whole.

I know its somehow cheating but I want to die a happy man, so I figure it’S justified. I’m still true to myself and I’m working on my character for some years, but at a pace way to slow. There’s significant progress to report, but I somehow want to find someone to love before entering a time where I’ll be seen as a grumpy lecher, for feeling attracted to young and beautiful women.

And even though I’m sceptical..or maybe because I’m sceptical, I feel attracted to mones, and I really wonder if they can assist me in fulfilling my dreams. I think that every bit helps and even if pheromones can bring a few percentages of positive reactions (beyond placebo) it would be worth it I guess…

What should I choose? Maybe Instant Shine&Instant Openess?

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Hey there Jihu, welcome to the forum. Curious of how you found out about pheromones and the forum? I see you say you can communicate if your in the right mood. Instant Shine will do a great job of helping put you in that mood. I havent tried instant openess, but that is said to help make everyone chatty and ease tensions. Are you only looking to help overcome social fears, or are you also looking to find someone special? There are a variety of different products that will suit for different desires. We will try our best to make some good suggestions. Look forward to hearing from you!

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jihu, welcome to the furum
from what your telling us is that you can open up in the right atmosphere and be “acepted”, what u need to do is find that area that makes u feal comfertable and then build on that eventualy working on it so that it grows and u feal comfertable around more and more ppl.

but back to the phero part u should try instant openess and shine they are 2 good products that make u and others feel more accepting of one another. that should give u a little bit of a boost in confidence but they can only do so much U are the one that has to do the work

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Hey man welcome aboard,
The pheromones your considering so far are great ones for making interactions with others easier. I might suggest you give a314 a shot as well. Its my personal fav. It gives you alittle extra respect from those around you, and at the same time I get a slight boost in confidence when wearing it. You seem to be the “go-to” guy when you wear it, people come to you for advice.
welcome aboard and good luck.:slight_smile:

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Thanks for the friendly welcome!

Mikeman22, I don’t really know how I found out about them..I always look for new things ..but I think it was a TV Show a couple of years ago. They blindfolded a bunch of women and applied pheromones on identical twins..you see where I’m going. I have already tried some cheap sample mones from ebay.. I think it was “pheromax”. Unfortunatly, I destroyed the flacon shortly after recieving it…but no big loss since the smell was horrible.
But I’m not really the perfume type of guy.

I’m mainly looking to overcome my fears and to develope myself into the man I want to be, so I can find that special someone without the help of mones.

snake_08, yes, that’s exactly what I was hoping to accomplish. And I know that I have to do the work. But sometimes it feels like I’m running against a thunderstorm.

chicagokid1, A314 seems to be a good product at first glance..too bad it doesn’t come in small bottles. I have to think about shelling out 70$ before drawing a conclusion about the effectivness of pheromones…

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Jihu, I am/was the exact same way as you. In fact, I just started coming out of my shell at around 23/24 (I’m about 25 now). I didn’t start drinking until I was 21, didn’t go to much parties till I was 23, & even now I have a lot of trouble if the situation makes me uncomfortable. Besides pheromones, you should start exercising & drink more. Honestly. Become a different person.

As far as pheros go, I was also the same way. But I found this site when a situation of mine was too late. I thought, “if I had these a lot of problems would’ve been avoided”. So I dived in, with some hope & a LOT of skepticism. My desire to fix past problems encouraged me to not create new ones. But I did say to myself “this is all a typical scam”, “too good to be true”, & “it’s a placebo”. But, my friend, I think that if you examine this forum & see all the good people here you will be convinced that there’s something special here. Too vast to be a scam.

So…I am very confident in giving you the following advice:

First, buy double strength. It stretches your dollar out more & you can always dial it back. If you get a 2x, put on half a spray.

Second, INSTANT GENTLEMAN! I’ve tried just about all of them & IG is the most consistent AND specific to your problem (& mine). For example, if you use IO you would still have to initiate conversation. That’s something that I’m very insecure about. I just can’t come up with ice breakers or followup questions. IG, for me, is like charisma in a bottle. People ask ME questions & followup questions. And every stupid thing I say is gold, hahaha. It doesn’t come as a to-go size or extra strength, but it’s sooo worth it.

Third, avoid CTTM. No one came to talk to me…ever! Avoid IO. It’s so not for you. You won’t know how to work with it. I say this because I feel like you & I are very very alike. Trust me. Get IH instead! My #2 product cos it works on me as much as other people. In fact, I use it on myself when I want to get more in touch w/my true feelings on certain issues. When I want to be introspective.

Finally, you’re gonna go through a lot of trial & error. Don’t expect to get this thing down for another couple of months. You truly have to work with it, brother. I hated my first batch of things I bought, but that just goes with making mistakes in order to learn. So…learn away!

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Let me thank you for taking the time, SiriusC, I really appreciate it!

Exercising is indeed a good way to become more confident because it seems to create some kind of enhanced body awareness. I wish I would do it more, but time is short. I’ve got no real practice when it comes to party..maybe I just need oine successful, wild one.

Your Instant Gentleman recommendation is very interesting, I havn’t really considered this product, but after a search on the forum it seems to be vastly underrated. Maybe it’s really what I need as I get the feeling, that I sometimes project a childish feel. I’m a full grown man, but with childish insecuritys. Maybe that’s what makes me feel incongruent to some folks.

I’m not sure about instant honesty. I don’t think I need people to open up more. It comes naturally that they tell me about secret things. I don’t know it also works over text messaging…

What do you think about applying a more sexual -mone behind the social mone? Do you think it would be too much? Propably…

edit: BTW, your signature doesn’t work, it keeps redirecting me to the forums homepage.

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Hello Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

Its OK to be skeptical, most people are when they first get here.

I could probably write pages and pages of info on how and why mones work and I will give a short explanation below, but the best way for the skeptic to really find out is by trying them and give them a fair chance to work. It takes a little practice to find dosage and the best application points but when you do you will see the effects and know for sure. Be sure to read “what mones can do and what they cant do” The link is in my signature. This will give you a realistic view on what to expect.

Pheromones are science and have nothing to do with alchemy or the occult. There is no magic. All people make mones. Synthetic mones just give you the ability to control when and where you release them. Its not exactly new science. Its been known for centuries it just has a name now. Napoleon Bonaparte would write to Josephine when we was coming home from war. “I am coming home in 3 days. Do not wash” It was said the smell of her skin unwashed would drive him wild.

Cleopatra used her own pheromones (copulins) in her perfume.

People over the centuries have become more hygienic. The sense of smell and Pheromonal communication has been effected adversely because of it and we now mainly only pay attention to are other more obvious senses to communicate. Speech, Touch, Sight Hearing and lastly the sense of smell they are all part of how we communicate. Look at the animal kingdom, all mammals use Pheromones to communicate, They rely heavily on it because they lack some of the other senses in some cases. It is what drives their instinct. Humans are emotion driven, emotions are part of what makes us who we are and act the way we do. Mones evoke emotion and its the emotion that people react to. As a human your instinct may to to mask emotion, humans are good at this, but the feeling is there whether masked or not and it influences our actions. Pheromonal responses are harder to mask because they occur in the subconscious mind.

Your not weird, its your pheromones. In your first paragraph you mentioned …

That vibe can be controlled by synthetic mones. Sure its subtle and only one small part of a large picture of attraction and communication but they can give you a edge.

Told ya I could go on forever :smiley: :stuck_out_tongue:

Ok onto mones for you.

Ishine and IO are both great to start with.

Ishine is charismatic warm uplifting and draws people to you. Boosts the confidence levels.

IO is a ice breaker, adds comfort and makes it easier to open up, chatty fun friendly attractive.

Now this “weirdo vibe” do you get this reaction from both men and women or just women ? I suggest if its from the girls you go with IFM to ease comfort and give a feeling of well being and affection.

Your GC is on its way, Sorry I bored you to death, what can I say I am a science geek LOL

Looking forward to your participation in the forum

Tisha

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Thank you, sir, for attempting to click on my link! I’ve fixed it & added a picture to boot!

As for adding a sexual pheromone behind the social, that’s just something to test out. I still haven’t “mastered” the dosage & application time like others have. But make sure it’s appropriate. For example, I might wear IG to a work meeting, but certainly not with something sexual. Conversely, if I know I’m going to be talking to a girl I seriously like I would still wear IG with just a touch of a sexual product just to get that I idea in her head. Then, if I’m at a party & just wanna find a girl to take away with me then I’ll add quite a bit of Ammo/TUTH to a) make my intentions clear & b) because there’s a lot of people around & I want someone to know it’s coming from me.

In terms of you partying, you gotta just throw yourself into certain situations when you have the opportunity. One of the worst & most uncomfortable moments in my life was when I was invited to a potluck/party & I really didn’t know what to say or do. But I believe that moment was critical in me learning how to be comfortable in certain situations. You’ll turn out fine, my friend!

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Well, thank you very much Tisha for your long reply and the Gift Certificate!
I enjoyed reading a little background info about pheromones.

I guess it’s also my behaviour, especially my body language. But maybe it got something to do with my natural pheromone output too..who knows!

SiriusC

Sometimes the most painful situations are also the most helpful ones. :slight_smile:

Oh and btw, my order was shipped yesterday.
This is what I bought:

1x Instant Gentleman
1x Instant Openess To Go
1x Instant Shine To Go
1x Ammo To Go
1x Instant Female MAgic To Go
1x Turn up the heat To Go

I couldn’t really restrict myself ..but I hope that I do have a base to trsting things out now.

I’m really curious about Instant Gentleman after reading more about it…

Thanks again for your help guys and girls.