Shane's Journey

I just joined the forums fairly recently and have just received my first order of pheromones.

But before I get to that, I think a little background information is in order.

I’m 19 years old and am currently attending a local community college. When not in school, I work at the local library putting away books, organizing, etc. I’m not one to go out to clubs/bars so most of my social interaction is at school, work, or when I hang out with a few close friends and we go out to the mall, movies, bowling, etc.

For me, my problem has always been breaking through that initial first contact. A vast majority of women I do talk to and have friendships with, all easily open up to me and trust me. It’s merely the breaking of the ice that makes it hard for me to meet new women and then I often get stuck in the “friends” zone.

After a little advice from the introduction forum, I put in my first order and just received it today. (That DHL overnight shipping worked like a charm :smiley:)

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My order includes:

Ammunition (1x strength)
Instant Openness (1x strength)
Instant Female Magic
Turn up the Heat to-go gift(thanks Amy! :smiley:)

My current plan is to use each product separately until I find my sweet spot for each before I begin to mix them up.

Testing is going to go somewhat slow as school is on break, and my job is only 3 days a week, maybe 4.

I’m thinking of testing each product based on location first.

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Ammunition - general public places (grocery stores, malls, department stores, etc.)

Instant Female Magic - Movies, bowling, or other social events where I know it will be more of a demographic of my age group.

Instant Openness - Work. There are about 6 other high school/college students I work with, as well as some women that are older (ages 21-26 or so) that work at the desks. I already talk to most of them, but often conversations are slow to start or short lived. And I don’t feel I should be testing out Ammunition or Instant Female Magic there just yet.

As for the Turn up the Heat to-go gift, I think I’ll just stash that away for later use.

My first test will be later tonight as I have to go to the store to pick up some drinks for my friends and me for tomorrow night’s New Year’s Eve hangout.

I’ll give Ammunition a go at the grocery store and will report back my findings, if any.

Sorry for such the long post. This will probably be the longest as it was the introduction to let everyone know background information and what my plans are.

Any feedback is welcome and appreciated! :slight_smile:

See you all tonight with my first field test.

Day 1

Location: Grocery Store @ 9pm.
Product: Ammunition (1 spray to neck/jaw line)
Population: Very scare

This test was basically a waste. Due to the late time that I headed to the grocery store, the stores were nearly completely empty. Any women that were there were in there 40’s or older.

I have no findings to report, unfortunately.

Tomorrow’s plan. Ammunition at the mall and probably fast food restaurants.

Stay tooned!

Day 2

Part 1

Location: Mall @ 1pm
Product: Ammunition (2 sprays to neck/jaw line)
Population: Crowded

Yesterday before my new year’s bash, I headed out with a friend to kill some time. Before heading out to the mall and other various stores, I applied two sprays of Ammunition to my neck and spread it along my jaw line and pulse points with my wrists.

I didn’t notice too much in the way of hits while walking around the mall. My guess for this is that I haven’t found my sweet spot for Ammunition or the fact that I was never standing in one place. We basically just walked through the mall and talked, and didn’t stop at any stores to shop, so any women that would have noticed me would have just been walking past me and I wouldn’t notice any hits, if any.

On the way out of the mall to my car, we stepped out the doors to go outside. My friend was on his phone and I was just walking by him. When we walked out, 3 young girls (15 or 16 year olds - way to young for me) were approaching the doors to go in. One yelled “Hiiii!” and they laughed and walked inside.

I’m not entirely sure if this is a hit due to the fact that their age was so young, and I’m not sure on the effects of Ammo or pheromones in general on that young of a age. And the distance was at least 10 feet between me and them when they said “Hiiii!” In general, I’m going to rule this as a no.

Part 2

Location: Grocery Store @ 5pm
Product: Ammunition (1 sprays to neck/jaw line)
Population: Crowded

After the trip to the mall, we headed back to my house to play some games. At about 5pm or so, we decided to head out and get some Wendy’s and then go to a grocery store to get some snack foods for the long night.

At the grocery store, I didn’t notice any hits off the top of my head. Most people there were in their 40s or so and a husband/wife couple.

After buying my items, I headed over to customer service to buy some Mega Million tickets (yeah I know, the lottery is lame :slight_smile:). Previously, I’ve bought tickets, and haven’t been carded.

When I asked for some quick picks, the lady behind the counter, who was in her early 30s I would say, said “I know you are probably gonna kill me, but can I see some ID?”

I gave a little smirk and chuckle and she was like “I’m sorry, but it’s a good thing because you look so young.”

I replied with “It’s just because I don’t have all my facial hair grown out.” (I use to have a full mustache and a small goatee from time to time.)

She laughed and said “I know, but trust me, it’s a good thing that you look so young.”

I then got my tickets, and she wished me luck and a happy New Year’s.

I’m not entirely sure if Part 2 was a hit or not. I typically never will notice things like this due to her age and I’m not interested in that, but I can’t help but think if any of that was due to the Ammo. Normally I never talk to workers or employees at stores like that, so I’m unsure as to if I should call this a hit or not.

Any feedback is welcome.

I think 2 sprays of Ammo on the neck might be good for me, but if I go out again today, I’ll try 3 sprays and see what happens.

Solid reports so far–cool of you not to do the noob baptism. (its so fun, but so confusing…)

Keep it up, but I might add 3 sprays of ammo is gonna be a lot of scent.

Day 3

Location: Work
Product: Ammunition (1 spray to neck/jaw line)
Instant Female Magic (1 spray to neck/jaw line)
Instant Openness (2 sprays to wrists)
Population: Average

I got ahead of myself and went all out before work tonight.

I didn’t feel like trying each product individually and just wanted to try them all.

One of the younger women that works at the front desk, who is in her early 20s, seemed more talkative and joking with me then she normally is. However, the other woman that I normally talk to and joke around with, hardly talked to me at all today.

I think the first incident was a hit, due to she seemed more talkative, but I’m not sure what to make of the other one that didn’t talk to me at all. Maybe she was having a bad day or maybe something I had on repelled her. But that being said, why would she repel and the other attract more. :confused: My conversation with my boss upon first arriving and other co-workers were on par with what they normally are. So I don’t think I OD’ed on anything. Hopefully she was just preoccupied or had something on her mind and it wasn’t the pheros.

I feel Ammo works well for me with 1 solid spray to the neck covering 1 spray of Instant Female Magic.

Tomorrow I have work as well for 8 hours, and am going to try the same basic sprays except up the Openness to 3-4 sprays, maybe an additional spray to the neck, and one to my hair. And follow it up with an additional spray or two when I’m on my lunch break.

I’ll report back with my results! :slight_smile:

UPDATE:

Sorry for the lack of updates guys. I’ve been randomly wearing various mixes of the pheromones while I go out to the mall, to get food, and whatnot, but wasn’t receiving any noticeable hits and sort of got discouraged. I’ve been just applying random amounts of AMMO, IO, and IFM, not really testing them because I wanted hits so bad that I didn’t want to take the time to test anymore. :frowning:

**Well NO MORE!

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School has just started for me as well, going on the second week. I only have two classes (making up some in the summer). My first class is literally all guys, not a single girl out of the 24 students. My second class is probably a 2:1 ratio of guys to girls.

Any who, after my classes, which are Mon-Thurs, I know I’ll be hanging out in school for a few hours to work on developing a game in my spare time. This time, combined with my usual work, and going out, I figure will be a good time to start seriously testing out the products.

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Tonight I have work. Now with school in progress, I’ve noticed an increase in high school and college students, making it more ideal to begin testing.

I’m going back to square one.

Tonight’s application will be 1 shot of AMMO probably on my wrists. I’ve applied it to my neck in the past and it tends to give me a headache or the scent is really strong to me. If anything, I’ll spray on my wrists and maybe dab a little on my neck. Sprays to my chest also seemed completely useless in the past weeks I’ve been doing it. Maybe not enough exposure being under my shirt.

I’ll update tonight after work. :slight_smile:

Day 1

Location: Work
Product: Ammunition (1 spray to left forearm/wrist and rubbed with my right.)
Population: Minimal

Ok my tests have recommenced and Day 1 was at work. I did 1 spray to my forearm and smeared it with my other to get even distribution.

There wasn’t all that much people there tonight so hits would have been hard to come by. I did however work with someone else, and I personally felt a little more confident. That probably was however just due to my excitement to restart my testing and figuring out what works. Conversations were the same with everyone and nothing out of the ordinary.

Tomorrow I have school and am going to be applying 2 sprays of Ammo, 1 to each of my forearms.

As a separate question, could someone advise me as to the working time on these products. Like I’ve said before, I have Ammo, IO, and IFM. I looked through the FAQs and the guides but didn’t see a time of effectiveness for the products. If I recall, I think I remember someone saying the Instant line works for about 2-4 hours before needing a respray. Is this accurate? What about AMMO? How long will that last before I’d need a respray.

Just remember, nice guys finish last. LOL

Girls dont like guys who adore them. Girls like guys whom they adore. Always remember this very important philosophy. LOL

So what you’re saying is that I’m pretty much screwed…hahaha

Well today is Day 2. I will be going to school in a bit. 2 shots of Ammo to my wrists. I’ll post back results tonight.

i found it funny that it occured to you to wear 2 sprays of instant openess to the LIBRARY, lol.

im going to continue reading though, havent made it all the way through the journal, but i like your reporting style !

no unnecessary assuming.
love it.

I still don’t know what to look for with Instant Openness. I haven’t noticed any results from 1-4 sprays or people coming up to talk to me.

Anywho…

Day 2

Location: School @ 10am-2pm.
Product: Ammunition (2 sprays to forearms/wrist)
Population: Average

I didn’t notice any hits today at school. No looks, no contact, no conversations with people I normally don’t talk to. I think the problem here might be application points. I’m going out later tonight and can still smell some of the Ammo on my arms so I’m going to follow up with one additional spray, but applied to my neck.

In the future, I think I’ll try one spray between my arms and one to my neck to get a wider spread over my body.

Part 2
Headed out to the mall and out for food with one additional spray applied to my neck. Population was very scarce. No hits

Try 3-4 sprays of instant openness to your hair, start a conversation with someone and check out the resulting motor-mouth

Day 3

Location: School @ 11am-1pm.
Product: Instant Openess (4 sprays - 1 to each wrist, 2 to hair)
Population: Average

Due to today being the class completely filled with guys, I felt Instant Openness was a better choice to go with today. Again, I didn’t really notice any hits. I went to class, normal class talk and whatnot, and went home since that was my only class.

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Part 2

Location: Work @ 5pm-9pm.
Product: Ammunition (2 sprays - 1 spread between both wrists, 1 to top of chest/lower neck)
Population: Scarce

Today I think I may have had a general hit, if that makes any sense. Everyone I worked with or passed by when I first came into work said “Hi” to me or started some sort of little conversation by asking how I was doing. Normally, there are only a few people I talk to all the time and then there are the people I don’t really talk to. Today, those boundries kind of went away. Although it didn’t last all day, the fact that almost everyone was saying Hi to me seems like an overall Hit for the day.

Question is. Was this from the Ammo? (I’m thinking not since guy co-workers were also starting up conversation) Or did some of the IO from earlier in the day still stay effective? How long does that stay effective for?

Tomorrow is back to class. I’ll tryout the Ammo like I did today with work to see if that’s what did it or if it was the IO.

Day 4

Location: School @ 10am-12pm.
Product: Ammunition (2 sprays - 1 spread between both wrists, 1 to top of chest/lower neck)
Population: Average

Went to school. Didn’t notice any hits with my 2 shots of Ammo. Again, I only went to class and pretty much went straight home. I also put on some IO (4 sprays to hair) for when I went out to get food and again no hits.

I might try increasing IO to 4 sprays to hair then 1-2 to my wrists.

As far as Ammunition…I’m not sure what’s really going on. 3 sprays seems like way to much. Maybe I need to pull back and go with one spray to my neck.

I’ll keep testing.

One quick suggestion - It seems like in a fair number of your posts you are applying phero’s and then hoping people just approach you with “hits”.

I like your reporting style but I have this sinking suspicion that you are spending a bunch of your day “in your head” looking for reactions from people.

Remember that creepy guy in high school that always seemed to be watching everyone (almost every class in every highschool has one) - That guy (and it’s weird because it always seems to be a guy) was creepy because he lived in his head, went through all potential social interactions in his head before he acted (and therefore missed his opportunity to act) and ended up being creepy because instead of LIVING socially, be observed - anti-socially.

The point is that you have to try and FORGET that you put on your pheromones when you leave the house - at the end of the day look back and remember how people interacted with you - mark down anything strange - and keep on moving forward looking for patterns in what was strange about the way people reacted to you.

BY THE WAY - AMMO isn’t JUST sex (that’s turn up the heat), it’s attention-grabbing and socially fun (it has some parts of IO and IS like molecules).

Don’t just look for girls swooning over you, but you should see reactions from men as well (a common reaction from men when you have the right amount of AMMO on is a kind of respect from other men, not the same kind of respect that you get from A314 though)

Finally - you don’t really talk about what (if any) effects you perceive the pheromones are having on you - E.G. I find I get into my club mode checking out everything female that moves when I put on AMMO…

Hope this helps.

P.S. 2 Sprays of AMMO should be sufficient I would even try for 1.5 sprays, go for the hair, neck and chest rather then the wrists (wrists are ok if you have your hands up by peoples faces all the time, but for a larger diffusion area - Hair, Neck and Chest)

Thanks for the input.

I realize that pheros are just an additive to my social skills and aren’t a replacement for me going up to women and talking. But most of my tests since my restart have been either in work or school. At school I don’t spend time hanging around after class or randomly roaming around campus and at work I can’t exactly attempt to socialize with random women coming in due to working at the library and all.

As far as AMMO goes…I am completely aware that it is not a sex phero. I never even thought it was like TUTH is. I didn’t know however that it has an effect on men as well like you said. So thanks for that info.

As far as effects go. I don’t really notice anything on myself other than just a boost of confidence and outgoingness to try more experiments. Ammo does tend to give me a slight headache at first when the smell is strong but goes away as I get use to it. I’ll be sure to update with effects on me when I test from now on.

I went down to one spray today when I went out grocery shopping and here are my results…

Day 5

Location: Grocery Store @ 3:30pm-4:30pm.
Product: Ammunition (1 spray to neck)
Population: Average

So I went out today to do some quick grocery shopping. I figure nothing was going to happen and didn’t really tend on making today a test day. Since I was going out I figured “what the hell…” and put on a spray of Ammo to my neck.

I was with my brother shopping and was more focused on that really then trying to talk to women. Also, the crowd was heavily older people, ages 45 and older.

I got to the checkout line and was in talking with my brother while the lady in front of us was finishing checking out. I didn’t realize she was done and then I hear the cashier interrupt me mid sentence and said:

Cashier: “hellooo.”
ME: “Hello”
Cashier: “How are you doing?”
ME: “I’m doing good.”
There was a pause for maybe 5 seconds…
Cashier: “Did you find everything alright?”

Almost as if she was trying to just find extra stuff to say to me. She was in her mid to late 20s I’d say. As I signed my recipt she handed me my copy saying “There you go…have a great day.”

The way everything happened made it seem more of a hit then a standard like robot-employee talk. Her responses weren’t quick ones as if she was running through a routine of what to say to each customer, they seemed more personal as she was actually asking ME how I was doing, and not just saying it to be nice.

I don’t believe she said these things to the lady in front of me, but I can’t be 100% sure. I’m not going to count this at a hit being as how I don’t know if this is how the cashier acts with every customer. My focus was elsewhere which is probably a bad thing when I should be looking for hits. :stuck_out_tongue:

Well tomorrow I have work for 8 hours with a co-worker that I find attractive. I’m going to see if I can get some better conversations going with some Ammo and Openness.

Day 6

Location: Work
Product: Instant Openness (4 sprays - 1 to each wrist, 1 to top of hair, 1 to back hair.)
Instant Female Magic (1 spray to neck)
Ammunition (1 spray to neck covering IFM)
Population: Scarce 9am-11am to Average/Above Avearge 11am-4pm

Ok so this is going to be a rather long post. I know I said I was going to try each product on their own and find out what the sweet spot is for each but I couldn’t pass up an opportunity to get some testing done over a 7 hour work shift.

I think I found my spot for Ammo at 1 spray to my neck, which seems appropriate due to my age, thus I shouldn’t really need anymore than 1.

Instant Openness has also been working well at 4 sprays but I might try 2-3 sprays to see how much of a difference it makes.

As far the Instant Female Magic goes…I haven’t used any of that in quite some time so I figured one spray to the neck is plenty.

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Now on to the the day’s events…

Personal Effects: First of all, upon putting on all the pheros in morning, I all of a sudden got really energetic and hyper. I wasn’t bouncing off the walls or anything but when I returned from my room after showering. I was zipping everywhere, throwing clothes around, making my bed, eating some Pop Tarts…all in about 2 minutes. I almost couldn’t stop.

Hit 1?: So I proceed to work. I clock in and as I’m leaving the area I pass by an older worker who is probably in her 50s and she said “hello” to me. I know not much, but considering we hardly say a word to each other at all, that seemed kind of obvious to me even just getting a simple “hello”

Hit 2?: Work then begins. For those of you that don’t know…I work in the library putting away books with other high school and college students. Being a Saturday, everyone is always tired and no one really talks at all for the first hour or two, regardless of pheromones.
At one point I was sitting on the floor with a cart of books. My head was down as I was arranging the books, and was completely unaware of my surroundings. Next thing I hear is this lady, maybe in her 40s, say “goodmorning” to me. I thought that was highly odd due to the fact that I didn’t even know she was there, no prior eye contact, no nothing, until she said that. So why bother saying “goodmorning” to a person that is sitting on the floor and doesn’t even notice you? I thought that was odd…

Hit 3?: A little bit later. I was walking through the aisles of books and was passing a guy, maybe in his 30s, and gave a polite nod as he walked by. Not sure if that meant anything.

Hit 4?: All that was little stuff up until this point…

So at around maybe 11am or so, all our work was done, so we mostly roam around trying to look busy. Working at the library and all, we tend to get some creepy people coming in. One kid, who has got to be only like 14 or 15, comes in from time to time, always trying to hit on the girls working there and usually doesn’t leave them alone.

I was minding my own business and one of the other workers (not sure of her exact age but shes in college) came up to me and started asking me about that kid and asking why he keeps trying to talk to her. I told her he always does that with the girls working here and I say “I’m glad I’m a guy…” she laughs and kind of brushes her hair. (Hit?) What made this seem like a hit is the fact that me and her rarely talk on our own. Usually we will talk when there is like a group of us together, but never one on one.

A short time later, that kid begins to follow me and talk to me for 15min straight (so much for being a guy :roll_eyes:). After I lose him, I proceed to go back to the same girl and talk to her about the kid and joke around some more. I’m not sure what exactly made ME do this. It was all of a sudden as if me and her talk regularly and now I was just going up to her and talking with no problems. Maybe some of the IO affected me?

He begins to ask me about the other girl I work with, the one I find attractive, and I’m guessing he does to. So to kind of protect her I guess? I found her and told her he was looking for her so she should go hide so he doesn’t bug her.

Later I talked to her and then even started talking to the other guy working, who I haven’t said a single word to in the 3-4 months that he has been working here. And we began to talk a bit and joke around.

Needless to say, this joking around with the two other girls, and the other guy went on from about noon till 4pm when we closed.

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Overall the day seemed full of hits nonstop I guess. :smiley:

The Instant Openness definitely seemed to be working, making me as well as the other workers comfortable talking.

Ammo seemed like it might have gotten those few random nods or hellos throughout the day.

And the Instant Female Magic seemed like it might have made the girl I work with more comfortable talking to me when we never use to.

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I would definitely love feedback on today’s results and get some outside opinions.

Ok question time as well…

I think I’ve found my spot for Ammo at 1 spray to my neck. Instant Openness seems to work well at 4 sprays, but again I may lower it to see if the effects change or if I can get away with 2-3 sprays and save some.

As far as Instant Female Magic goes…what is a good amount? I haven’t tested much, but if I’m correct, is it something that I could easily OD with? 2 sprays seems like it might be to much for me, even though I have no proof to back that up. What amounts are other people using out there?

Hope you enjoyed the LONG read! :stuck_out_tongue:

Day 7

Location: Work
Product: Instant Openness (2 sprays - 1 to top of hair and 1 to back of hair.)
Instant Female Magic (2 spray to back neck)
Ammunition (1 spray to front neck)
Population: Above Average

Today I had school in the morning, but knowing it was my all guy class, I opted not to even waste any pheros.

Before heading out to work, I applied the pheros as listed above. I toned down the Openness to 2 sprays and upped the IFM to 2 sprays and moved it from the front of my neck to the back.

Personal Effects: None really noticed. Felt the same overall other than being anxious to experiment.

Hit 1: Before leaving, I decided not to put on my winter coat and instead with a Simpson’s Hoodie that said “I am so SMRT”

I got to work and talked to my boss before working like always. Then she sees my hoodie and tells me “Go show that to X” (Not like anyone from work will read this, but I don’t feel right using other people’s names online haha). I asked “why?” and she said “just show her.” I head out of the office and show her and next thing I know, she smiles at me and just starts singing “I am so SMRT…S-M-R-T.” I laughed and she said she loves singing that. Go figure…:roll_eyes:

Not sure if this was a hit or just a coincidence that I was wearing this hoodie and she likes to sing it. But I guess maybe it would be a hit beacuse she could have always just seen my hoodie and just laughed or just said she liked it and not have sang at all.

Hit 2: Since I was working till closing, as part of my job, I am to go around for the last 10minutes or so and pick up books people left laying around and didn’t put back. As I do this, I walk EVERYWHERE, passed every desk, every table, etc. One of the girls working at the comptuer desks use to work with me when I first started until she got promoted. I typically tease her about her having the easier job now and often ask if she wants to help me for old times sake.

I walked by her today and of course asked her if she wanted to help. She gave me her typical “In your dreams” look. But then pointed to the stack of books I was carrying and said “Are you going to read that?” I look down and it was a book of “1001 way to be romantic” I laughed and told her I already read it.

A few minutes later, I came back by her desk and she looked over to me as I was walking towards her and we just both smiled and began to laugh. Not sure why. Talking to her today seemed a lot more open and playful then it normally is. :slight_smile:

Overall: I then would like to comment on the overall vibe I got today. With the other girl I work with, the one I find attractive, normally it takes a while for me and her to begin talking every time we work. Today however, I came into work, went straight over to her, and we talked for a good 5-10minutes and then throughout the day we’d talk on and off and laughed a bit.

I also felt as if a lot of the girls coming in that weren’t workers, were all looking at me. I almost felt like there was a mark on me or an arrow over my head telling girls to look at me. None of them talked to me or came up to me. But then again, maybe they just wouldn’t due to the fact it is a library and I am working, so they may figure I can’t be bothered or talked to.

No big deal, I use pheros at work to really help relations with my coworkers, not to pick up random girls. I’ll leave that to school to try and pick up girls.

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All in all, today was one of the best days I’ve had with using pheros considering its only day 7 into testing.

I’m positive Ammo is good at 1 spray to my neck.

Instant Openness still seemed to work with at 2 sprays to the hair. My guess is those additional 2 sprays to the wrists I did previously never really had an effect.

Instant Female Magic at 2 sprays seemed to work really well today to getting the girl coworkers quickly comfortable around me.

I might be trying 3 sprays of IFM on Wednesday when I work to see what effect it has. I’m scared of ODing on it if thats even possible. I’ve read it can have neg effects on other men, but hopefully the Instant Openness helps to buffer that out a bit.

Due to the great success I seem to be having already, I cannot simply wait to get my order of A314 and IS, which should be arriving tomorrow. I feel like I’m on top of the world right now and my confidence is through the roof! :smiley:

Edit: Sorry for the long posts recently. I have a great memory and I just feel better getting out every little detail of every event that happens.

Update

I just recieved my order of A314 and IS plus a free to go gift of IH thanks to Jamie :smiley:

I also got a little candy…which I’m hesitant to eat. But I’m sure a company wouldn’t try to poison and kill off a customer :roll_eyes:

Eat the damn Toblerone!