Shane's Journey

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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Day 21

Location: Work
Product: Instant Openness (2 sprays to neck)
Ammunition (1 spray to neck over IO + 1 spray to chest)
Instant Honesty (1 spray to neck)
Instant Shine (2 sprays to neck over Ammo)
Instant Female Magic (2 sprays to back neck)
Instant Honesty (1 spray to back neck)
Population: Average

Personal: Inc heart rate

Effects: I worked with TG again. Actually, she is no longer TG for various reasons but anywho I wore the same mixes as before but applied a spray of IH to the front of my neck plus the original one to the back of my neck.

**1. First off, I got to work before opening. The other girl I find really attractive, that is older, saw me as I walked by her and smiled at me and made a little laugh. No words were spoken.
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2. Not much happened in terms of anything with TG. Conversation was extremely lacking and we didn’t joke around as much. She commented that she was a little out of it and she looked pretty tired so I’m guessing that is what was wrong.

3. Another worker passed by me and grabbed my hoodie sleeve and rubbed it between her fingers making a comment about how its warm out and I don’t even need to wear my hoodie and she smiled and laughed.

4. I ended up helping a really cute girl, probably a local college student, find something and she seemed really nice and flirty. She smiled alot and seemed very…peppy? I got her what she was looking for and she smiled and said “thank you so much!”

5. At the very end of the day, I was walking around making sure the building is clear before we locked up for the night. I passed by a girl in one of the aisles suddenly and she saw me and gave me a smile and I continued to walk by her.

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Thats about it as far as I can remember. So TG is no longer my target girl. That being said, I still like talking to her and whatnot so my mixes are still going to stay relatively the same.

I’ve also mentioned another older girl I work with that I find attractive but I doubt anything would happen due to age and she seems a little out of my league.

For future reference, TG will now be referred to as Girl 1 or G1 and the other older girl is now G2 since these are the two girls I’m trying to attract most often.

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Day 22

Location: Work
Product: Instant Openness (2 sprays to neck)
Ammunition (1 spray to neck over IO + 1 spray to chest)
Instant Female Magic (1 spray to neck over Ammo)
Instant Honesty (1 spray to neck)
Instant Shine (2 sprays to neck over Ammo)
Instant Female Magic (2 sprays to back neck)
Instant Honesty (1 spray to back neck)
Population: Average

Personal: None

Effects: So both G1 and G2 worked today. To make things clear, I work in the same section with G1 so we have a lot of time to potentially be together, and G2 works in a different area and I only typically get to see her maybe a few times a shift.

In general work was extremely fun and easy going. Time just flew by and there was constant joking around and open talking with G1 and another co-worker.

Often times, G1 would come by me and the other co-worker as we were talking and working and kind of just linger around. She would always try to join in the conversation and a few times she would actually just sit on the floor and talk. Not sure if this is because of the pheros, or maybe because there was another co-worker with us, or what.

That happened pretty much the whole day and nothing to big happened.

Something I noticed about G2 however is the reaction I sort of get when we first get a chance to see each other. She always says Hi to me in sort of a flirty, high pitched voice. This happens 9 times out of 10 whenever she first sees me, but conversation and joking is no where no what it is with G1. Not sure what to make of this…

Either way I’m just having fun with this and not pushing to start anything with either of them in particular.

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Edit: On a side note, I am considering cutting back on the pheros I use at any given time. I’ve just been noticing how long it takes me to take to layer on the pheros every day before I go to work, and after seeing a list of like 7 applications per post, it seems excessive.

No way am I cutting back on Ammo and IFM though, I just love those products. I think I’ll use Instant Honesty in work settings since I’m already comfortable with everyone there, and then use Instant Openess in general settings such as school and other public places.

I’m not to sure where Instant Shine should be used. And I’ve put A314 and Instant Gentleman on the shelf for now.

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Day 23

Location: Work
Product: Instant Honesty (2 sprays to neck)
Ammo (1 spray to neck over IH)
Instant Female Magic (2 sprays to back of neck)
Population: Average

Personal: None

Effects: Ok so today I really cut back on the amount of pheros I normally use at work, especially for it being a day when I worked for a full 8 hour shift.

Work was extremely fun I have to say. The day just flew by and I was talking and joking around with just about all the other people that I worked with including G1. Today was also a day when I met another worker I’ve never met before and I was pretty open and comfortable around them from the start and visa-versa.

G2 worked today as well and I joked around with her and talked with her from time to time. She also introduced me to one of her friends that came into work, whom I found to be attractive, and we talked for a minute or two.

Something I found a little weird was that later in the day, another co-worker had told me that G1 asked them if I still had feelings for her. I told her how I felt quite a long time ago now, and we haven’t even mentioned it since then. As of recently I’ve decided that we probably wouldn’t work out, or maybe I’m just telling myself that to avoid disappointment.

But why would she want to know if I still had feelings about her if she already told me doesn’t like me like that and I haven’t made any moves towards her since then? Why wouldn’t she just come straight to me since we’ve already spoken about this? I’m confused…

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All in all, cutting back on the Instant Shine and Instant Openness didn’t seem to diminish the amount of contact, talking, and joking around at work. So I guess I will be leaving those out of my work mix for now.

I could use some advice on the whole G1 issue. But I’m not going to stress, I’m not pushing to be with her anymore so if something happens then good, otherwise, I’m fine with being friends.

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Day 24

Location: Shopping
Product: Instant Openness(2 sprays to neck)
Ammo (1 spray to neck over IO)
Population: Average

Personal: None

Effects: So being on spring break, and being an absolutely gorgeous day out, I decided to go out with a friend to shop, walk around, and just be out.

We traveled to a few different malls, one of which was an outdoor mall. We got to this outdoor mall around maybe 1 or 2ish and were hungry. We stopped in at a diner type restaurant and it was pretty empty.

Our waitress was relatively cute and took our orders and whatnot. She came back to check up on how we were doing quite frequently but that could of been due to that lack of people in there.

She also started small talk, asking why we are here and aren’t doing anything for St. Patrick’s Day. We told her how we were on spring break and she seemed interested, asking us what college, and then told us about how hers starts next week.

Again, this could just be due to the lack of customers she had to attend to so she was just trying to keep busy and find something to do.

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Pretty uneventful day. Other than that, I didn’t really notice much of anything going on. I only sprayed the pheros when I first left, so my guess is by the time we hit up the other shopping centers 4-5hrs later, the pheros probably weren’t as effective.

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Day 25

Location: Work
Product: Instant Honesty (3 sprays to neck)
Ammo (1 spray to neck over IH)
Instant Female Magic (2 sprays to back neck)
Population: Mediocre

Personal: None immediately, but slight pressure or headache after about an hour of work.

Effects: Today I went back to my work mix of IH, Ammo, and IFM. I decided to up IH to 3 sprays just for fun to see what would happen. G1 didn’t work today but G2 did.

As I’ve stated in the past, I don’t work directly with G2 so we only see each other a few times a day at most. Well today she came into work after I did and we ended up seeing each other in one of the aisles.

She immediately sees me and says hi. As she walked by, she pushed her arm and bumped into my back as a playful thing. Then out of no where she makes the comment of “you smell goood”

This completely threw me off, as I rarely hear that from any girl, let alone a co-worker. She then asked me what it was, and I told her “I dunno.” and it was something I just threw on. I’m not sure I want to tell her I’m using pheromones haha.

She then tells me how she has to pick out her perfumes and she picks them based on mood. Do all women do this? This is news to me :roll_eyes:

I hate moments like these. I should of told her I liked how she smelled as well but of course I don’t think of that until it’s too late.

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I’m not sure what drew the whole “You smell good” comment. Clearly it was from the IH as that was the only thing that changed in my mix. Now was it because the added spray made her more “honest” to say that, or did the added spray just make the scent a bit stronger for her nose to detect.

Either way, I’m happy. :smiley:

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It was most likely the Ammo actually, although the honesty may have helped her express her feelings…I’m quite sure IH is purely alcohol based, so that wasn’t it, unless the scent of a laboratory is good to her.

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Day 26

Location: Work
Product: Instant Honesty (3 sprays to neck)
Ammo (1 spray to neck over IH)
Instant Female Magic (2 sprays to back neck)
Population: Average

Personal: None

Effects: I decided to keep the same mix as last time when I worked with G2 and got the comment about smelling good.

She worked today as well as G1, so I wanted to see if I could duplicate the results.

Well the results were duplicated but not with G2, but with G1 instead!

It was maybe an hour into work or so. We were standing in the aisles and talking a bit. I then walked passed her to try and leave and, she stuck her leg out to try and stop me/trip me up. As I moved passed her she told me “you smell so good.” I told her how G2 made that same remark before and I said “what the hell is going” like I didn’t know. She then told me “it makes me horny.” :open_mouth:

I just don’t know anymore…

I think it has to be the Instant Honesty doing this. I’ve worked with G1 plenty of times with pheros and ammo and IFM never had this effect on her. But now adding 3 sprays of IH, I get the same remark from both G1 and G2…

As for…

When I smell IH, it doesn’t smell bad at all. It actually smells quite nice to me and I wouldn’t even mind it wearing it stand alone with no ammo or any coverings.

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Hey Shane I’m fairly new to reading these boards (this is actually my first post) and wanted to let you know that, out of all the journals I’ve read so far, this is definitely my favorite. Your style of writing is easy to follow and you keep a skeptical mind when evaluating “hits” which is exactly how I intend to approach my own experiences once I get started.

So far I’ve purchased A314 and Instant Shine (still on their way to me), but after seeing the success you’ve had with other products I definitely will have to look into those with my future endeavors.

Good luck with G1 and G2 buddy. I’m in my 30’s and have to say that women don’t get any less confusing. All I can give you as far as advice is don’t be afraid to take another chance. With G1 it can be something as simple as asking if she wants to go get some coffee after work. Not anything as official as a date. Just you and her getting to know each other better in a different environment. Keep up the good work!

-Pop

p.s. Gave ya some much deserved rep!

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Dude… Out of your league DOES NOT EXIST except MAYBE in high school.

Once you’re out of highschool all that shit goes out the door - if you have the confidence you can get the girl.

Older is no issue either (unless we’re talking about breaking the half+7 rule - her age divided by two and add seven, if you are older then that all is good)

When I met my current LTR she was 30, was the regional manager for a TESOL teaching course, had recently gotten back from living in Tokyo for 1.5 years, before that was a professional musical theatre actress in New York (who actually had lead roles in off-broadway productions) and had travelled much of the world - I was 22, still finishing my Uni degree and I’ve still never seen a real ocean. Oh yeh… she was also gorgeous (the kind of gorgeous that has guys stopping in the street to compliment her)

If anyone was “out of my league” she was - I took it as a challenge and STEPPED UP - We’ve been dating 3 years - Out of your league doesn’t exist.

(I should mention - I’m 5’8", was about 145 lbs and while I’m not ugly I most certainly don’t have girls fawning all over me)

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Thanks for the feedback. Can’t wait to read how your tests go with pheros. It’s fun reading people experiences when they first start out.

I know it doesn’t exist really. For me, as of right now, comfortable age range is like ±3 years, which G2 falls into. However, I think it’s not so much that she’s out of my league and more of the fact that shes a co-worker. I work at a job with like 30 people total, and we all know each others names and talk, so no one can like anyone or do something without everyone finding out, and that’s what I hated about high school.

I also know that she is going away to college come fall, so that would make things difficult. Not to say I wouldn’t still try and make things work, I just know women that won’t even give it a chance due to age or distance.

I guess I’m just making excuses. It’s easier to not try, or think of ways it won’t work, as opposed to getting rejected.

That being said, I feel like I’m more of a match with G1 then G2, which is also why I’m not trying to have anything happen with G2. We don’t ever actually talk, I don’t know about her life to much, all we do is joke around for a few minutes here or there.

Well I work for 4 days in a row, all with G2, and I work with G1 again in a couple of days. I will be doing the same mix of 3x IH, 1x Ammo, and 2x IFM to see if I can spark more interest from them.

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Good work man. I still kinda DIHL every time I hear a girl tell me my cologne makes her horny. It doesn’t happen often, but when it does I’m like :O.

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It was more odd because she said it when another guy co-worker was standing next to us and part of the conversation. And considering that was the first time I’ve gotten a “it makes me horny,” I was almost speechless. Not that I didn’t mind it. :slight_smile:

Day 27

Location: Work
Product: Instant Honesty (3 sprays to neck)
Ammo (3 spray to neck over IH)
Instant Female Magic (2 sprays to back neck)
Population: Average

Personal: Hot, slight headache

Effects: I was reading other posts and have read about someone’s success with 3 sprays of Ammo. They were my age so I figured maybe 3 sprays could work for me (I’ve never gone over 2 sprays).

I got to work and all day I just felt really hot, overheated, and I started to get a slight headache. Ammo tends to do that to me for some reason when I apply more than 1 spray.

Only G2 worked today but I didn’t get to see/talk to her until I was going home. I opened up conversation first as I was leaving, and she started talking to me and was interested in talking I guess. She wasn’t trying to end the conversation or anything by any means, but there was nothing big that happened.

While 3 shots of ammo doesn’t give a ghosting effect because of how well buffered it is, it still tends to make me get less hits, and also has bad side-effects to me.

Well two days left to work with G2 and 1 day with G1 before I have like a week off of work. I’m going back to my 3x of IH, 1x of Ammo, and 2x of IFM that gave me those awesome comments. :smiley:

I can’t wait!

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Day 28

Location: Work
Product: Instant Honesty (3 sprays to neck)
Ammo (1 spray to neck over IH)
Instant Female Magic (2 sprays to back neck)
Population: Scarce

Personal: None

Effects: Today I went back to the same mix as before. G2 worked today and I got to see her frequently.

Work started and she came in a little after my shift started. I came out of one of the aisles and she saw me and immediately went “Hi shane!” and she waved and came over to me. She didn’t come over to chit-chat however, but to ask me to take care of some other work during my shift.

Later on I was doing the work that she asked me to do, which involves going outside. When I came back in she said “Thank you shane,” and gave me a big smile. But she said it kind of high pitched and drawn out if that makes any sense, which I notice she does that a lot to me.

I then told her how it’s cold outside, and she asked if I wanted to wear her jacket. I told her no thanks, and she then told me how’d it would look cute. :confused:

The end of my shift came and I was going home. I smelt food from a near by place and told her how I smelt food and I’m hungry. She said she would buy me some food if it didn’t cost to much, but I told her it probably cost alot since the place usually overcharges.

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Well that’s it for today’s report.

Once last day of testing tomorrow. It’s my 8 hour shift and I work with both G1 and G2. I know there is going to be very little work to do, so I will have plenty of time to be around G1 and no bosses work tomorrow.

Should be fun!

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So I’ve just decided I’m going to throw in some Instant Openness tomorrow. Since I’m pretty much set with Ammo, IH, and IFM, and since IO is a social phero and I can’t really OD with it, I figure it will be good to add in.

My reasoning for this is I want to get into a deeper conversation with G1. Last time I saw her a few days ago, she asked if we could go sit somewhere and talk even though we were working, but then she suddenly said “nevermind, I just decided not to all of a sudden.” She just told me that she was going to tell me about her life and stuff that was going on because she’s feeling a little depressed and crappy lately.

Apparently she wants someone to talk to, I just need something to push it to that point so she will open up to me. I know she already trusts me, she just seems a little closed off.

Ahhh the feeling of being helpless…

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More IH and/or IFM should help you with this.

This sounds like a rather common occurrence with NONE overdoses. It happens to me, it happens to you, and it happens to Jayarea as well. I’m not sure if it is fixed by constant exposure.

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Well I took your advice and stuck with Ammo, IH, and IFM and just upped the dosage.

Day 29

Location: Work
Product: Instant Honesty 2x (2 sprays to neck) + 1 spray during lunch break
Ammo (1 spray to neck over IH)
Instant Female Magic (3 sprays to back neck)
Population: Average

Personal: None

Effects: I had my TG bottle of IH 2x strength so I figured that would be better to use 2 sprays instead of using up 4 sprays of normal strength. Not sure if the amount is exactly proportional like that, but I assume it is.

G1 seemed really…moody? She wasn’t her typical fun going self or anything. I’m not going to say I ODed by any means because I was talking, having fun, and being flirty with other co-workers all day.

G2 was a different story however. I saw her frequently throughout the day. We didn’t have all that much work to do, and she was often up and walking around.

For lunch we were ordering food and deciding on where to get food from. I wanted to eat from the place everyone else was getting plus get other food at the same time. G2 made a fat joke about me and throughout the day I would make jokes about how I feel so self concious now and need to work out and she would always laugh and give me a smile…very flirty. :smiley: (I’m extremely skinny. 6’ 1" and about 140lbs)

Lunch came and a lot of us went to eat at the same time. Me and G2 ended up sitting at the same table while the other co-workers ended up sitting at other tables. Not really a hit since co-workers were at other tables, but she could have easily picked the other empty table. Lunch seemed very laid back and cheerful. Not awkward or anything since I’ve never eaten lunch with her like that.

Later on I was working with another co-worker. And being guys, we often fool around and he often punches me and whatnot. G2 was near us, and some how we got on the topic of “guy hugs.” And apparently guys have to pat each other on the back 3 times.

I am standing in between G2 and the other co-worker and G2 patted my left shoulder area 3 times to show what they meant, except without giving me the hug. The other co-worker then hit me 3 times pretty hard on my right arm and I did my exaggerating complaining of saying “owwww” and acting hurt. G2 then put her hand on my shoulder and rubbed it for a few seconds to make the pain go away :roll_eyes:. But she didn’t rub my right arm where he hit, she rubbed my left arm/shoulder. Hmmmmm…

All day it also seemed like I would just do anything, make a face, say something, and she would always laugh or smile. :slight_smile:

Now I have almost a week off of work before I get a chance to see her again. I’m thinking of maybe throwing IS back into the mix.

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Right on man. Sounds like you’re making some good progress with G2. As far as G1 goes I’d say it sounds like she’s trying to figure some things out, going strictly by your descriptions of her actions.

So have you found it to work better when you spray one phero on top of another? Right now I’m applying A314 onto the sides of my neck and spraying the IS onto the front, but it seems to me that the side is the primo application spot for pheros as long as mixing them doesn’t hurt their individual strengths.

-Pop1

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Thanks for the feedback Pop. I’m still not trying to really get things to happen with either G1 or G2 other than just to flirt and have fun really. If something happens then so be it.

As for your question…

I’ve never tried to see what the effects of applying pheros on top of each other vs separate areas. My neck only has limited amount of space and when trying to add multiple products at once, some times up to 3-4 on my neck alone, then I have no choice really but to layer them.

The only thing I do is give time for each product to dry/absorb. I will usually spray on some IH, wait 2-3min, then layer Ammo or whatever else I want.

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Day 30

Location: Work
Product: Instant Openness (2 sprays to neck)
Ammo (1 spray to neck over IO)
Population: Average

Personal: None

Effects: I knew I wasn’t going to work with G1 or G2 today so I decided to go back to some IO and Ammo. I realized that lately I’ve been focusing so much on what reactions I get from G1 and G2 that I don’t even try and see if I’m getting any other reactions from other people I work with or other people that I just pass by.

Not much happened today. One of the other workers came in about an hour after my shift and came up behind me and kicked my shoe and started talking to me. She’s a much older worker so obviously I have no interest. But I’ve never had her kick my shoe like that and sneak up on me before.

I got the normal "Hi"s throughout the day from workers and nothing to out of the ordinary.

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Side Note:

I just read through all my journals again just to see what was working, what gave me what hits, and whatnot.

Upon reading, I’ve realized I never gave A314 and IG a chance at all. I used them each once, and then never tried different amounts, mixes, or anything, I just gave up with them or something.

I think when I work in a few days with G1 and G2, I’m going to do my typical IFM and Ammo, but maybe throw in a drop of A314 or two to give me more of a vibe.

G2 is a few years older than me so maybe this is what I need to give me that form of presence to sort of seal the deal with her and make a move.

Maybe a couple shots of IO and/or IS will help to smooth everything out.