Heh, I shower every day. And always put on a freshly washed shirt. I’m 18, and most of my targets are 18-19. After posting that thing earlier, I thought to myself that it really is very unlikely that I’m ODing with just 1 spray, but I really couldn’t help but wonder why I was getting so many hits from older women that night. Only thing it really could have been was the MX297.. I’m kinda stuck between more AMMO testing and trying out only socials. If AMMO really is supposed to work like it did that night, I can’t wait to get it to work for me!
So youre telling me you shower between each set of pberos you put on in a day? In your journals you dont say anything about washing off the ammo tuth or a314. Most of these only last 5 or 6 hrs tops so you usually scrubbed those off and reapply during the day. Showering once a day might clean off the days worth of mones but you gotta make sure youre cleaning off none before each appljcation. Then its not really one spray of ammo if you already still have some on the collar of your shirt or somewhere on your neck. When i was 19 and didnt know these things i used to spray directing onto my clothes and coulda been oding fir years with knowing bc i dont think it was washing out with just
detergent. Im just trying to help you out. If youre washing it off multiple times in ONE DAY then thats something you should write down and you def need to do that with none especially at your age. Older men might not need to thoriughly wash it off so much in a day.
Oh I’d say I shower in between about half the time. But on that I went to the restaurant and got the hits from all the older women, I had just showered, and those were my first mones for the day. (I woke up really late, around 4 haha)
Are you saying that the none stays on past the smell? I can usually wipe my arm or something across the application spot and smell the fragrance. I usually assume it’s gone when I can’t smell it at all anymore. In such cases, I’ll reapply.
Regardless, however, I still only had on 1 spray of AMMO when I got all the “old” hits. I was also wearing a brand new shirt that had never been worn before. It was also a fairly new jacket that I had on. And I wouldn’t have any mones on my pants. I woke up around 3-4 PM that day. Took a shower. Gillette Body Wash. I always wash twice on my chest, neck and pits, just to be safe. The spray of AMMO was under my shirt on my chest too.
The ONLY thing I can think of is that when I put on two sprays of MX297, I accidentally grabbed the bottle of A314 Spray B that I have. It’s pretty unlikely, but the only reason I said that is because I almost did that today.
Anyways.. I think this is a good experience nonetheless. It was a positive reaction, even if it wasn’t from who I’d hoped it would be from. It’s a learning experience for sure, and if I ever feel like mones aren’t working and are just snake oil.. I’ll remember not only the initial DIHL looks, but the repeated stares I got from multiple women.
cwj255, thanks for the advice. I realized I never said that ![]()
Anyway, I had an interview today for an almost perfect position. I put on the best shirt, pants, and jacket I had. 1 drop A314, 2 sprays IShine x2
I really f’ed up on the IShine. I recently ordered x2, and I sprayed that instead of x1. There ended up being a huge personality clash. To add to that, I was being pretty in-congruent. There were lots of awkward moments.. Didn’t even get up out their seats or shake my hand as I left.. sigh I’ll send them an email tomorrow, but I doubt I got the job. It’s OK though. That place is like a two mile hike from where I live. Taking the uni’s public transport system would take 30 minutes to get there.. and I’d end up only being able to work there maybe 10 hours a week. Whatever, I’m just in it for the experience, and I’m thankful I don’t need the money.. yet
“insert conclusion here”
I went to study at the library for my last final. I put on 1 spray of AMMO and 2 sprays of IO. The IO was because I’m a quiet person, and was more for self-effects. I was going to meet up with two guy friends there, but the AMMO was just to see if I’d get any IOIs. So there’s three people at our table. A alpha frat guy, call him T. A pretty good looking guy, A. And then me.
We were working on Cal III. A girl, R walked by that sorta knew T and asked if we were working on calculus and could give some help. T actually had no idea who she was, but he pretended to know her anyway, lol. A few minutes later, she, R and her friend, M moved to our table. R Sat straight across from me and M sat to the left of me, but closer to R.
Almost immediately, R asked for A’s name. Now, I was working on a problem at the time, but she never asked for my name, and I almost felt ghosted. She wasn’t really looking at me either. I kept working on the math though. That’s why I was here. I wasn’t really talking or anything at that point either. I said a few words here and there, but nothing much.
When I started to speak a little more, R finally asked me my name. I didn’t really think about it then, but now, I kinda get the feeling that she was almost scared to ask me my name. When I started talking, I seemed more approachable. Well, she was either scared to for some reason, or I was ghosted.
Here’s why I feel like I wasn’t being ghosted: As soon as I started to interact with everyone, I started to notice R’s eyes on me. Even when she was talking to someone else, she would look at me. I took it as a test and looked her right back in the eye. I did, however, always break eye contact first. I mean, if I didn’t I’d be staring at her, like she was at me. This happened several times. In fact, it happened so many times, later on she actually apologized for looking at me so much.
I had sprayed on the AMMO around 8PM. I’m guessing it started to wear off around 2AM at the latest. The alpha, T left to get some sleep around 3AM. I think this played out perfectly. Now, I’m not really alpha material, but I am pretty funny. The other girl, M, kept laughing at all my jokes, giving me high fives, and things like that. M was pretty nice, I helped her with her calc. R was being kinda b*tchy and rude, so I ignored most of her requests for help at least the first time.
I ended up leaving the library at 6:45 to go take a shower and get something to eat before my 8AM exam. Overall, I had a pretty good time. I didn’t get any numbers or anything like that, but I wasn’t really trying either. I enjoyed just hanging out and talking.
TL;DR - 1 spray AMMO, 2 sprays IO. Alpha girl, who initially ignored me, kept staring at me. You know how there’s always that hottie you can’t stop looking at? I feel like AMMO made me that. ![]()
Oh, and I should add that R took a nap around 4:30 or 5 and woke up at 6. I didn’t get any more stares after she woke up. (No more AMMO?)
I’ve been gone a while, but I’ll be back soon.
I’m home for Christmas break and have been since the 9th. Sadly, I left most of my mones in a drawer in my dorm. I only have A314, AMMO, and IShine with me. I would have reported, but I’ve mostly been going out with guy friends, and really there was nothing to report.
On to the new year!
Semester starts the 9th. I’m pretty exited to go back. I was only taking two real classes Fall semester, and both had about a 90/10 guy to girl ratio. However, I’m taking about five real classes this Spring, and they should have a more even ratio of guys to gals. (When I say real class I mean one in a classroom, not some bullsh*t intro class I usually skipped) What I mean to say is I should have a lot more interaction this semester. This means more reporting! ![]()
If anyone reads this, got any suggestions on mixes for the first day/week? I was thinking just 2x IO. I’m considering adding IShine and/or AMMO, but I’m not sure yet. I’ve got a few days to decide. I might start out purely social, and then add some attraction later.
ONLY A314, AMMO and IShine… !!! A314, IShine and AMMO are the foundation of a solid mone drawer.
I was just thinking that you SHOULD use the socials, such as IShine and IO. Have that comfy vibe around you and work it with your personality. Add the spice, AMMO, after you know who will be your TG.
Glad you’re doing well!
Nice report on your experience in the library! As for your question with what to use for the first days of a new semester, I too have been thinking about that since winter semester is starting and there will be a bunch of new people to phero. I’m planning on using a mix of IG and IO. But I’m also considering AMMO and IO. One thing though is that I’m pretty sure that IO would be involved in the mix.
Got back to the Uni on the 8th. Wow, 4 days just flew by! I’ve really had no spare time. I actually would be asleep right now, but someone made the fire alarm go off, and I can’t go back to sleep.
I used two sprays of IO on the 9th and 10th. I refreshed before each class. No big hits, but I did feel more talkative, and the people around me seemed to want to talk too.
Actually, there was one big hit. While a lady was preparing my food, I decided to ask her how her break was. Before I could even finish my sentence, she just started talking and talking. It went like this:
awkward silence while she cooks my food
“So.. how was your.. uh..”–
“OMG IT WAS GREAT! WADCASC WASDC AWEGBTS…”
“break?”
It’s like she had a terrible itch to talk, and once I gave her the opportunity to, BOOM!
So, if you’re having trouble with IO, try to break the ice yourself. I think one open-ended question is all you need.
Today, the 11th, I decided to mix some IO with IShine. Really bad idea. I seem to have negative reactions to IShine. It makes me less comfortable and less confident. It also makes me more paranoid. However, I haven’t used it in so long I’d forgotten.
It was 2 sprays of IO, and 1 spray of IShine x 2. It was about 55 degrees outside. I like it cold, so I went out without a jacket. This is where the paranoia really came into play. All I could think about is “Why is everyone looking at me?” “Crap, everyone else is wearing a jacket.” “Do they think I’m weird for being in a short-sleeved shirt?” etc.
I know, I know. I shouldn’t worry about those things. But that’s really all I could think about, especially with the lowered confidence. In class, I sat next to two of my high school friends that I’d known for several years. Yet, I felt very uncomfortable next to them and felt like they were thinking bad things about me.
Before I left for my lab, I put on 1 spray of AMMO. Confidence and comfort levels went back up. A little paranoia, but not much. I’m glad I put on some AMMO too. There was a cute girl sitting next to me ![]()
So that’s that. I saw that my stealth diffusion MX297 (can’t recall the numbers right now) shipped out today. I’ll be trying that out once I get it.
I really liked the library story. and the food lady one was interesting as well. Im going to do my own tests this coming weekend. But yours has caught my attention bout to hit the subscribe button fo sho =]
Got P83 and the two MX297 stealth diffusions in the mail yesterday. I’ll be testing those out.
Friday I used just one spray of AMMO and sat next to a cute brunette (assigned seats now) in my only class for the day. She was texting someone on her phone when I sat down. She never even looked up at me. In fact, the entire class, she didn’t even take one look at me. I felt like she was trying not to. Nobody can be that focused lol
It’s a 3-day weekend, so I decided to come home for the weekend. It’s a two hour drive. I sprayed 6 sprays (3 2x sprays) of IShine. I usually feel really paranoid when I have it on, but today I felt GREAT. I didn’t care about anything, and even though I was just driving down the road for a little over two hours, I was having fun! In fact, time flew by! If this is what IShine is supposed to feel like, I’ve really been missing out!
The effect lasted about an hour. After that, I was still in a pretty good mood, but not in a GREAT mood. I’m going to try to test IShine some more in the future. It’s possible that just the low doses are causing the paranoia and confidence loss. I’m not sure.
I didn’t bring any mones home with me. I thought about it, but I didn’t think I’d be going out too much. No more reports till Tuesday night, boys. (or Wednesday afternoon
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OK, OK you convinced me. I’ve been reading and reading and I’ll admit. I’m hooked on your journal and now with this, my first post, I’m subscribed
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Drop me a PM with your user name in the store and I’ll tell you just how hooked I am to your journal ![]()
Not a report, but I realized that I forgot to mention this before. MX456 and MX457 are NOT stealth.. They have a scent, and although it’s not over-bearing or offensive, it’s not light at all. The MX428 I tried a while back had a very, very light detergent smell. MX456/457 have a smell I can’t really describe, but it’s definitely noticeable.
I’m not saying that’s bad/not effective… it’s just not stealth, which is what I think the main objective was.
Oh geez, I haven’t posted in forever. I’m slowly drifting I guess. I’ve been working a ton on body language and eye contact the past few weeks… Just good posture and making eye contact with everyone I see on my walk to class. It builds up confidence to keep eye contact when you’re closer with someone. If I see someone in a closed area and we’re close, I’ll give a “hey” or something.
I think the most interesting things that have happened over the past few days can be summed up below:
I finally realized that even too much of socials is bad. I’ve been going out with 1-2 sprays of IO every day. Now whenever I go to get food, or anywhere else really, the regular workers greet me and ask me about my day (they never did before). Just random people will try to have a “canned” conversation. (As in, “Hey, how are you?” “I’m good, how are you?” etc.)
I also put on one spray of AMMO one day after probably a month of not wearing it. I was walking in a group of 10-15 people. One of my friends walking behind me started to sniff me and couldn’t stop sniffing me. (Excessive sniffing. Like what a dog would do!) He complimented me on the smell like 3 times on our walk to a speech. I found it hilarious ![]()
Anyway, I still have pretty much a full 5 mL of P83 I’m not really sure what to do with. I hear it’s a disinhibitor, but I don’t really go to clubs where that sort of thing really shines. I might start just using it everyday to see if I notice a difference.
Geez, it really has been forever. Body language is definitely one of the most important aspects to anyone’s game. By learning body language I improved my game by 100%. There were so many things that I never saw until I learned the body language. Truthfully I can walk into a room and have every girl in their hitting on me and not thought anyone in the room liked to me at all.
I do agree with you that wearing too much of IO can be off-putting. I don’t think the same concept applies to something like Ishine however. I have to be very careful when I wear IO or, as I mentioned before in other posts, I can come off as clownish. Now ammo on the other hand is really one of my favorites. It always amazes me how awesome it really is.
Glad to see you posting again hope you’re back on a more permanent level.