So... HI?

I’m not very good at intoductions… but here goes.

Call me Osa, Im 24, Male and I live in Seabrook Texas (just between houston and Galveston). I’ve been interested in mones for a while now, and even tried out “Pherolure” about five-ish years ago with no results but i’m ready to give it another shot (with a group that seems more reputable :wink:).

I’ve been reading about the basics on the forum and i feel ready to start using them, but i would like some advice first.

I’m a fairly friendly guy, I’m great in small groups, and make friends somewhat easily. But I’m not to great the first time I meet someone. I’m rather quite and shy till i get to know them, but thats a minor problem I am working on and hope to get over soon. My main problem is that I’m everyones “Big Brother” or “good friend” and i want to get out of that role. I want people to not just like me, but actually want me as well. (it feels so weird saying all this, BTW…)

Does anybody have any advice?

Oh, I also find it hard to relax, or cut loose sometimes… But i think IO or P83 might help with those…

Welcome to Pherotalk. :slight_smile:

If you are wanting to lose the big brother vibe and relax, Ammo, or the more chilled/relaxed Summer Ammo might be a better choice. Sexy, social and masculine, with the Summer version having two extra mones that give it a fellgood and comforting/laid-back layer.

Also, Instant Shine is a good combo with Standard Ammo (its main component is already in Summer) and very usable on its own for a happy/feelgood and socially confident vibe.

IH/IS is also a more mature/quality alternative to IO, which is good but can unleash a torrent of drivel in people around you.

P83 however - It is an excellent mone but its an experimental product, sold without warranty and IME not that good for a relaxing vibe - but it is great in a secondary role to help you get physical with people.

Hi Osamitra, perhaps consider A314 as well, paired with IH. It will give you more of an Alpha vibe, w/ the IH softening it a tad so people wont be intimidated by the A314 signature.

I like IH just to hear what actually people will say to me. It is amazing how they open up. Good luck!

Thanks guys for your advice, I really appriciate it :slight_smile:

My gift certificate just came in and i think i’m going to get the Ammo (summer) togo, as well as instant open, and P83 if i can afford it. Possibly TUTH as well.

I’m pretty good at getting people to open up about themselves on a deeper level (but i often come across as a therapist), but i love hearing people just TALK, about anything that comes to their mind, i tend to learn alot more about them thatway and if i can get them to keep the conversation going i can contribute alot more. but IH sounds like it would be worth getting anyhow for some great 1 on 1.

I would pick up IS, but as Mobocaster pointed out, the main ingrediant is already in Ammo Summer.

CelticPrince, I’m alil worried about using A314… I don’t give off the Alpha male feel, nore do i act like much of one. for one thing, I’m terrible at the approach (one reason for IS and IO) and i display many traditionally femanine traits. I’m worried about being incongruint. I read some of your journal and you seem to get spectacular results with it and use it almost religiously… but your also 6’6 or 6’5 and seem to give off the alpha feel already. Due to your experience, do you think i would encounter any problems with it?

Another question… One i don’t think has an answer yet… I have quite a few pets (Cats and rats) do mones have any negative effects on pets? and specifically the rats, i know alot of colognes can lead to cancer in rats if they are exposed to them (when putting them on) is the same risk included with these products? is it made worse by the mones?

Yes, if you are quiet and shy, A314 might not be so great in the first instance as it can come off a bit remote and standoffish and yes, if you can’t back it up with the Alpha impression, any advantage gained by A314 will be quickly lost. Also, around younger women, A314 may also replace the “big brother” vibe with the “Dad” vibe instead. Mid 20s is when women tend to to tune-in to an A314 signature big-time and it is superb around 30+, who tend to go for a much more forward status/sexual feel compared to younger ones.

IG would be a more sociable/youthful alternative, which still has lots of status. IH/IS will complement and steer A314 in a more social and engaging manner though but that’s maybe best left till you have some experience of pheros under your belt.

Summer Ammo, TUTH and P83 is a good start - just save the TUTH for clubs or more determinedly sexual environments as it can be a bit too sexually overt for polite company. Some IS would still be useful anyway, its a very versatile phero on its own and in combo with so many others. :slight_smile:

No problem with mones around my cats - in fact the only one that gets significant responses (all positive) is A1 and that’s not sold here. Little experience of pheros around rats though but reactions to the scent components are not unknown, so you may need to do some checking-up.

Osamitra,

I’m with Mobo, if you cant be congruent with A314 Alpha signature, then it is probably not for you. Try some of the others he suggested.

I have a black lab and it doesn’t seem to affect him one way or the other. I really cat say about the rats, other than I would think it would take an awful lot of exposure to cause any problems. (Like exposed 24/7) I doubt there is much literature out there on this topic I’m afraid.

Good luck.

Welcome Osa,

I think you are talking about the friend zone and that is a very dangerous place to be.

The men however, have mastered this and so, stick with the advanced users, they will show you how to get out of this zone and remain out

Your gc was issued!

cool, thanks again guys, your experience with your pets makes me feel a little safer in using it.

I’ve looked over the A314 again, and i think it will make its way into a future purchase once i gain some extra confidence. Its rather expensive, but if it lasts as long as they say it does, I’ll just take it as a lump sum rather then a bunch of small payments.

I’m gonna start a journal to log my experiences and keep you guys informed of how things go.

IG though will probably be one of my next purchases (at least a togo tester).

I’ve heard some bad stuff about A1 and sweat… it turns into other stuff or something?

thank you Mickaelia! I used the GC yesterday, it helped push me over the edge into the $80 territory… more then i meant to spend, but i had some extra cash.

I’ll listen to the guys, they have the experience I lack. I hate the friend zone… even if your not intending to sleep with them, it still changes the friendship and feels…wrong somehow.