MHarris on ‘The Game’
I find the discussion above to cover some interesting ground. The whole thread is worth a read, but partic MHarris post reposted below
Re: Neil Strauss “The Game” - a fascinating read!
The modern techniques of “game” work, especially on younger women that respond almost exclusively to social posturing. With modern game, you can consciously hit the hot buttons that “jerks” have accidentally.
The current “state of the art” in “game” is the start of something better than what you see today. You guys do see how complex and formulaic today’s “game” is, right? It’s mostly empowering what used to be called “nerds”… you know, the guys with big brains and whale sized attention spans. Truly wonderful, high value men whom, in a perfect world, would be getting all the girls… but simply weren’t.
In fact, you can literally think of this as the movie “Revenge of the Nerds” come true.
Now the good guys have tools to gain access to what was simply given to meaningless meatheads – the jerks and abusive nutbags that girls LOGICALLY knew they shouldn’t be attracted to, but EMOTIONALLY were, despite logic. For the most part, “Game” today is a good thing. It allows what are mostly intelligent men to be just as brilliant with women as they are with computers, finance and other serious topics.
Any tool could be considered manipulative. I think it has a lot to do with who’s using it and why. While these guys talk a “big game” (male bravado), most eventually want a girlfriend or wife. Noble goals. Both Eric Markovich (Mystery) and Neil Strauss have gotten “one-itis” for what they perceive to be the “end all, be all” woman (what Eric once called “the one”).
So what’s the worst that’s going to come from computer programmers and other good guys learning some socials skills (and yes, a few “tricks”)? Women of tommorow will end up with more warm, loving providers? Prove to me that this is a bad thing.
To me, it makes for a brighter tommorow… with less children that have scumbags for dads. (if you don’t know who donates most of the sperm to make most the kid’s in the world, dig into anthropology and evolutionary psychology a little. Start with David Buss’ book “Evolution of Desire”) What may seem like a sort of superficial system on the outside, actually makes for some substantial world improvement in action, folks. It’s not as bad as it seems, when used by decent men.
My comments about Neil above mostly had to do where where and with whom he consorts. I think he’s been dealing with so many empty people in LA, that this otherwise fascinating man with so much to offer, has started to lose his faith in humanity and womankind. That is then leading to his misapplication of these tools, to waste time with women who really aren’t worth it.
Gem, thanks for the comment about Tyler. Maybe a less than happy Neil Strauss is now becoming his own made up, politicized version of Tyler? I’d like meet the real Tyler someday.
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