I learned some very interesting ideas while i was in my counseling (part of my probation). We started talking about social anxiety and how it works.
She imposed the question, “how come children don’t get embarrassed.” After some thinking i couldn’t come up with an answer. She said that it is because embarrassment and anxiety are high level thoughts. People with low IQ’s generally don’t have anxiety or worry about embarrassment.
She said that the front of the brain interprets logic and the back of the brain interprets emotions. The reason intelligent people have a tenancy to get anxiety is that the front and the back of the brain create a conflict. This causes a nervous “i don’t know what to do feeling.” She said by better understanding the brain one can over come anxiety. I haven’t brought up pheromones with her yet but i think she will find them interesting.
Very good point. I have seen that too I have seen less than sharp guys who just go for it with girls. They just act without fear of consequence whereas smart guys can come up with a hundred bad things that could go wrong which immobilises them. This is a generality but it does raise a good point that sometimes you just need to act on instinct and not try to think so much.
i dont agree at all, i agree that a higher intelligence could cause a lower confidence but not social anxiety, social anxiety usually isnt caused by toughts but because of chemical imbalances
Actually, the frontal lobes of the brain process and control planning, organizing, problem solving, selective attention, personality and a variety of “higher cognitive functions” including behavior and emotions.
The posterior (rear) lobes of the brain process hearing, vision, memory, meaning, and language. They also play a role in emotion and learning.
Many years ago they used to perform what’s called a prefrontal lobotomy on some of the most violant criminals. This procedure basicaly severed the frontal lobes of the brain from the back, leaving individuals having undergone the treatment in an almost zombie like state. The procedure was also pushed as a theraputic procedure in insane asylums and psychiatric clinics.
Do a Google search for Dr. Walter Freeman and you can find some interesting articles on lobotomy.
Every thought and emotion the brain processes is the result of chemical reactions and/or interactions.
Mark is right - the counselor waas wrong about what parts of the brain do what …
She was at least partially right about the “higher level thinking” part though …
Another thing to remember is that the part of the brain that processes risk analysis does not fully develop until males especially are in their early to mid 20s. Combine that with testosterone and you get high risk behavior and poor decisions.
I do not mean to imply people can try to dodge responsibility for poor decisions by rationalizing it away on the fact that their brain isn’t or wasn’t fully developed yet …
true, but social anxiety can have so many differend causes, look at whats working for one person and doesnt do a thing for someone else
SSRI’s, alcohol, GHB, opiates, Amphetamines even psychedelics what works for someone doesnt work for someone else, some ppl are helped by exposing themself some others arent at all
when thinking about it i do agree for some ppl it could be caused just by what the topic started talks about, but not for everyone at all
There is a good chance that i re-regurgitated the information incorrectly as she is a leading expert in her field .
I posed this topic because i relate well to what she said. I noticed it seems that the nerdy engineer types have the most trouble with women and social [approach] anxiety. Since alot of talk revolves around pickup i figured this topic may help a fellow friend better himself.
I agree with you 100%, social anxiety is simply caused by imbalances In the brain. Social anxiety can also be caused by deficiency in nutrients.
I can tell you that magnesium is wonderful because not only it relaxes your muscles it also helps tremenously with anciety. Lots of people ( I read it was 90% of people) are dificient in magnesium and this can cause many problems. Magnesium is one of the most imporant minerals in the body, it involes more then 300 proceses in your body, if your dificient then problems will certanily come.
The reason why we are so dificent in magnesium is becuase of our diet, we hardly don’t comsume any rich foods in magnesium and we take to much calcium causing a big imbalace.
for example, i have got social anxiety and one thing that makes me feel normal is amphetamine, on amphetamines i’m not interested in learning but i am interested in going out with friends and all that stuff, i am more motivated to learn what i really HAVE to learn but nothing else
however, when sober, the thing i like to do is educate myself on various things, just because social stuff isnt rewarding enough, also surfing on various message boards is a good thing to do then, and i like to educate myself on all kinds of subjects, intrests changing all the time
just saying, that the reward centers in your brain play a major role
This is a very interesting thought. I indeed rarely see a stupid person be embarrassed, let alone anticipate/fear future embarrassment.
I think people who live in the moment alo experience less anxiety. Focussing more on enjoying the moment and on making people feel comfortable has helped me a lot. People don’t really want to laugh at you anyway, most are too worried about their own insecurities or just looking for a good time.
Indeed. Self help books i’ve read have pointed to living fully in the moment in everything you do. Fully enjoy the bite of food your taking. Fully enjoy your friends company. Plan for the future live in the moment. A quote to fit the situation
“It seems the moment you decide not to impress anyone but yourself is the moment the road to greatness begins.”
Yes and no. I spent 5 days in a juvenile detention center because i took my entrepreneurship down some illegal (see also: drugs) paths. I always try to look clean cut with a fun edge. I have 3 tattoos and body piercings all over but you can’t tell when you meet me . Since i was 17 when it all happened i got a lucky break. Only 8 months to go .
BTW, i’m taking not looking the part as a compliment. Thanks
I always thought i had some sort of social anxiety… Growing up, even from early early on, i had no interest in meeting new people. I’ve always wanted to be with current friends or familly. Never wanting to make new friends… never wanted to even talk to people I didn’t know. To this day I still have this to some extent - although it’s not nearly as bad. I have learned over the years how to deal with people and i’ve really “grown up”
I must say, A turning point in my life was after highschool when i got very interested in my health and appearance. I was always incredibly athletic and active. I lost the ability to play sports after highschool and took to weightlifting. I vested ALL of my time into researching diet and excercise… over time i transformed myself… not just physically. It was almost like I changed my attitude towards people over night.
I don’t really get anxiety meeting new people anymore. I still have an “alpha” male outlook on life tho LOL. I think the only time i get anxiety meeting new people is when I feel they are a higher social status than me… which now that im thinking about it… i bought A314 and other phero’s to give myself a sense of “status” - especially when hanging out with the owners at the club my brother-in-law works at.
I tell you what… i honestly feel it worked. I achieved a friendship with alot of people there and what’s even more incredible… I think phero’s may have helped me to have the confidence to meet these people…
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. Since i was 17 when it all happened i got a lucky break. Only 8 months to go 